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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 07:11 PM
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80. Hey, Pepperbelly, you need us. We're the ones who know, for instance,
that two Bushite companies, Diebold and ES&S, counted 80% of the votes in the last election, using SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, and we now know why the Democrats would permit this...well, INSANE election system, controlled by Bush partisans, and so non-transparent and unverifiable and all. Mostly, it's bipartisan corruption of state/local election officials in the $4 billion electronic voting system boondoggle (and, also, Democratic leaders who support the Bush Cartel's war not caring who is counting our votes behind closed doors).

So, if you're wondering how we can have such an idiot as president--not to mention mass murderer and political extremist, and congenital liar--you may need to come to us for some basic information.

I apologize for being so condescending. Maybe you know that our election system was a fraud going in. It's just that it seems to me that leftists are generally the only people who know anything worth knowing. How can we repair our democracy if we don't know the most basic facts--of the kind that leftists tend to investigate--such as Bushites controlling the tabulation of our votes, and Democrats being SILENT on that mind-boggling fact?

How do we go about doing what we MUST DO--getting rid of these electronic voting machines (into 'Boston Harbor,' I say!), if we don't know that we will face obstruction by corrupt Democrats?

I don't know, do you think it's LEFTIST to know the truth, to speak the truth? How can we have a democracy without the truth being spoken?

As for Clinton, who is it but leftists who READ the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) that Clinton signed into law WITHOUT labor or environmental protections (which he'd promised in his first election campaign)--a 5,000 page, fine print document? Yup, it's Clinton we have to thank for the outsourcing of millions of jobs. Clinton. Not Bush.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for Clinton. In fact, I did--twice! I thought he was a huge improvement in foreign policy after Reagan and Bush I. Also, I had no choice. And that is definitely a problem. I would like to have voted for improved foreign policy AND for the protection of workers' rights and the environment. Not possible. And I might even vote for a War Democrat--which I'm sure will be our only choice in '08--if I think it will give us help with reforming the election system. I think that should be our first priority--transparent elections. I will never give up on voting. Never! No matter how rigged I think it is. But I'm NOT HAPPY with the SURE KNOWLEDGE that the nomination of a true antiwar populist WILL NOT BE PERMITTED within the Democratic Party. WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. And I am NOT HAPPY knowing that the great majority of Americans opposed the Iraq war since BEFORE the invasion (58% opposed, Feb. '03, across the board in all polls), and NO CANDIDATE reflected that MAJORITY OPINION.

And you wonder why people threaten to vote Green? Millions of jobs outsourced. A war that nobody wanted bloodily shoved down our throats by both Bushites and Dems.

You're "sick to death of these far lefties," which means? --you LIKE millions of jobs outsourced? --you LIKE illegal, unjust war? --you like war profiteers and global corporate predators running our country, and destroying our world? --that makes you feel well? Far lefties make you sick, and joblessness and war make you feel well?

I think you need to consider your priorities of what is sick and what is well. MOST far lefties voted for Kerry last time--swallowed their hatred of this war, swallowed his failure to speak out about torture, swallowed his failure to say anything much of substance--and voted for him, because he's a decent, intelligent guy, and in order to oust the Bush fascists, only to see their votes stolen or flipped or disappeared, like everybody else, and set about finding out WHY.

Have you done the same? Or do you trust Diebold and ES&S (major Bush supporters; far rightwng billionaires) to count all our votes with "trade secret" software and to come up with anything except Bush wins?
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