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Mon Aug-29-05 03:49 PM
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| 7. It's not the Golden Age, either. |
| -Looters |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 03:31 PM |
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It's been less than 24 hours |
China_cat |
Aug-29-05 03:36 PM |
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OK, so you're living in housing projects... |
phusion |
Aug-29-05 03:42 PM |
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Maybe they need baby formula and bottled water |
lebkuchen |
Aug-29-05 03:48 PM |
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And if the hurricane hadn't hit |
China_cat |
Aug-29-05 03:50 PM |
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I'm just saying... |
phusion |
Aug-29-05 03:59 PM |
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Let me speak from personal experience: I grew up on the dole |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 04:39 PM |
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Yep that's how it is |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:59 PM |
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Bloody hell. I've never had that exact experience (thank heaven!) |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:03 PM |
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EXACTLY. |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 05:02 PM |
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I've heard a similar argument from those who resent food stamps |
lebkuchen |
Aug-29-05 03:46 PM |
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Poverty desperation deprivation |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 03:43 PM |
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So, they're supposed to steal what they want? Are they supposed... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 03:50 PM |
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Most of us live... |
Orsino |
Aug-29-05 05:00 PM |
#40 |
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This is not the French Revolution. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 03:48 PM |
#5 |
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It's not the Golden Age, either. |
lebkuchen |
Aug-29-05 03:49 PM |
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They're stealing because they can. Don't try to glorify it. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 03:54 PM |
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with need. |
lebkuchen |
Aug-29-05 03:57 PM |
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The storm came in y-e-s-t-e-r-d-a-y! |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 04:01 PM |
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And A few hot plasma TV's |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:45 PM |
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Stealing for food to eat is one thing, but for a security deposit is |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 04:48 PM |
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Not anytime |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:12 PM |
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Laws against theft are not "the rich man's rules". |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:15 PM |
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If they cannot get |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:32 PM |
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Why do you think it's the very poor vs the very rich? |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:34 PM |
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No |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:52 PM |
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No, I've been in deep shit before, but I always managed to work... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 04:50 PM |
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How lovely for you, that you've always been acceptable to the ruling class |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 04:59 PM |
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Answer the question. Are you going to excuse them when they kill? |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:01 PM |
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First you have to demonstrate that they will kill. |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:07 PM |
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They will have to kill to steal from me. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:11 PM |
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So you're making it up. I thought so. (nt) |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:14 PM |
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I worked for everything I own. I have given thousands to deserving... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:18 PM |
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Than GIVE again |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:31 PM |
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You condone stealing. Fuck that. Someone steals from me... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:37 PM |
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Yikes. |
philosophie_en_rose |
Aug-29-05 07:47 PM |
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They have ethical choices to make... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 08:07 PM |
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So being poor is an acceptable reason to steal a TV but not to kill |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:18 PM |
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Aug-29-05 05:28 PM |
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Didn't you say we're animals? Isn't that what animals do? |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:29 PM |
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Well to argue |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:39 PM |
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I'm neither better nor worse than a chimp. But YOU are the one who |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:42 PM |
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Ok do you not have INSURANCE |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:15 PM |
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I don't own a business. You don't know what you're talking about. |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 06:54 PM |
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You know some people actually EARN capital..... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-29-05 06:59 PM |
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I'm sick? You are the one advocating stealing! |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:51 PM |
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Theft |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:04 PM |
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I understand how to share. You advocate stealing! |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:17 PM |
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Property owners? |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:26 PM |
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You may not realize it but property is not exclusive to the wealthy. |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:33 PM |
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Aug-29-05 07:46 PM |
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You Assume Poor People Who Loot Will Kill? |
stepnw1f |
Aug-29-05 07:43 PM |
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I'd be happy to. |
Llewlladdwr |
Aug-29-05 11:10 PM |
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If you want to rail against the ruling class you're after the wrong people |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:02 PM |
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How is that relevant? (nt) |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:08 PM |
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You're the one who brought up the ruling class. n/t |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:10 PM |
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Fine, so your comment was not relevant. Didn't think so. (nt) |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:15 PM |
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You brought up the "ruling class". To what end? The ruling class |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:16 PM |
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Because they rule |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:18 PM |
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You ignore the fact that we all - including the poor - can change that |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 06:59 PM |
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Damn |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:20 PM |
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Depends |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:29 PM |
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Yes through a long slow death by use of slave labor. |
lonestarnot |
Aug-29-05 06:12 PM |
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Why Would It Be Wrong Then |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 05:33 PM |
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I notice he hasn't answered you. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:58 PM |
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Do you want to glock people? |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:01 PM |
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You Are Avoiding The Question... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:07 PM |
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I Don't Want To Glock Anybody.... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:10 PM |
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Hee hee hee! You had better think again. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:36 PM |
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Don't steal from me and you won't be quite so desperate. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:34 PM |
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Yes they can |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:05 PM |
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Don't fucking tell me I'm "haughty." You're excusing theft... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 04:54 PM |
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I Wouldn't Shoot Somebody Who Was Running Off With My Car |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:37 PM |
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Precisely. Some people don't seem to understand that. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:39 PM |
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Since you put it that way, anyone can rationalize anything if they |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 04:55 PM |
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Who is "wealthy"? |
Xithras |
Aug-29-05 05:00 PM |
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Thank you, I agree. Anarchism one day into a disaster is crap. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:09 PM |
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My Dad Had A Ninth Grade Education... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 05:39 PM |
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And many business owners get by paycheck to paycheck just |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:44 PM |
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And the reason "The rich piggies and corporates... |
usnret88 |
Aug-29-05 05:13 PM |
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agree 100 % n/t |
kymar57 |
Aug-29-05 05:36 PM |
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If I had a baby |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 03:59 PM |
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Yeah, let's all act like animals! |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 04:03 PM |
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We ARE animals |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:13 PM |
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If "we're animals" is your defense, it should also be the defense of |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 04:57 PM |
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Well be better than animals than, |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:01 PM |
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So which is it, are we animals? Or are we to hold to some ideals |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:03 PM |
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We have thics because we can |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:20 PM |
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It's funny how your standards keep shifting. |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 06:57 PM |
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I do share, but no one will steal from me! |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:14 PM |
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You say you're an anmal. Yes, I'm an animal, too. I pay my own way... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 04:57 PM |
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See post #13 |
Karenina |
Aug-29-05 05:15 PM |
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Thank you, I'll look. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:20 PM |
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Yes, you are right. Much better to let hungry people starve. |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 04:59 PM |
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Why are you so sure that's what's going on? |
igil |
Aug-29-05 04:04 PM |
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Someone posted pictures.. |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:22 PM |
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OK, I'm hijacking this thread |
redwitch |
Aug-29-05 04:47 PM |
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You are totally correct |
petronius |
Aug-29-05 04:57 PM |
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Yes. I like to think I'd be the one to charge in heroically... |
redwitch |
Aug-29-05 05:00 PM |
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Damn! It couldn't have been 2 seconds after I finished reading your post |
11 Bravo |
Aug-29-05 05:06 PM |
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I was hoping for pictures. |
igil |
Aug-29-05 05:33 PM |
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If you want to talk about looting..we need to see a gas station raising |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 03:59 PM |
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Right on! Well said. The spectrum of discourse is so deformed |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 04:55 PM |
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'Tis my understanding that the LA attorney general is going to |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-29-05 05:00 PM |
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I just recently learned about LA gouging laws..does ole Miss have the |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 05:06 PM |
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I don't know. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-29-05 07:28 PM |
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One kind of looting does not make another acceptable. |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:08 PM |
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Looters would get to my business over my dead body |
fishnfla |
Aug-29-05 04:14 PM |
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Is your business FOOD? |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-29-05 04:25 PM |
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Yeah, because after all it's up to you to feed everyone and not |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 04:49 PM |
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Ooh - a stalker! |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-29-05 04:50 PM |
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Mondo...business' get insurance payments..people could starve to |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 05:02 PM |
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As I've said elsewhere I think stealing to survive if all other |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:04 PM |
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So I suppose you expect the 'head of the family' to say..lets gather round |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 05:36 PM |
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What problem can you possibly have with what what I said? If all |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:38 PM |
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mondo joe..I have remained silent..and just reading about what COUL:D |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 05:50 PM |
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Thanks Pat. And it is a very frustrating time. |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:52 PM |
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Well |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 04:39 PM |
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Beautifully said! |
Mairead |
Aug-29-05 05:13 PM |
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"If I had a business I'd give my stuff away" Two words. Bull. shit. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:32 PM |
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Some people think if you have things it's just "stuff". They don't |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 05:36 PM |
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You got that right, Joe. I sweated and bled for everything I own... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:41 PM |
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Everyone sweats and bleeds |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 05:59 PM |
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You bring up shit that does not relate. I have dug ditches.. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:05 PM |
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Underground..I thought this when I read about the insurance companies |
patdem |
Aug-29-05 06:01 PM |
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I know |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:21 PM |
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Anyone who doesn't have enough food for a couple of days planned poorly |
slackmaster |
Aug-29-05 05:08 PM |
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Most people live paycheck to paycheck. There is NO extra money |
TheGoldenRule |
Aug-29-05 05:19 PM |
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Exactly. |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 05:23 PM |
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Since I don't have cable it's kind of difficult to understand |
TheGoldenRule |
Aug-29-05 05:17 PM |
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Actually, no..... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Aug-29-05 07:02 PM |
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* told people not to leave their shelters until they got PERMISSION too. |
HypnoToad |
Aug-29-05 05:20 PM |
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Not everyone |
VADem11 |
Aug-29-05 05:28 PM |
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I definitely see a difference between stealing food and stealing ATM |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 05:33 PM |
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Money BUYS food It can BUY a car to get OUT of the disaster. |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:00 PM |
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Oh definitely. |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 06:07 PM |
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THIS IS THE CRUX |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:30 PM |
#129 |
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You Judge An Act By The Effect On The Victim |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:40 PM |
#136 |
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Perpretrators are innocent until proven guilty |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 10:44 PM |
#166 |
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I hope you have never acted upon the morality you expound... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:51 PM |
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I'm not excusing looting- I lived thru the 1977 NYC blackout |
Danmel |
Aug-29-05 05:32 PM |
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Are New Yorkers richer than they used to be? |
tjdee |
Aug-29-05 05:37 PM |
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Some are, a lot aren't |
Danmel |
Aug-29-05 05:41 PM |
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My own unprofessional opinion |
Pied Piper |
Aug-29-05 09:55 PM |
#165 |
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There Was Looting After 9-11 |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 05:49 PM |
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Yes, they are the buzzards, the jackals, the hyenas. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 05:55 PM |
#108 |
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Here's The Link.... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:20 PM |
#125 |
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That is terribly sad. I was a firefighter in a well known city... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:25 PM |
#127 |
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We Aren't Sure Who Did It... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:27 PM |
#128 |
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Yes, hopefully it was someone else's stash. Whatever... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:37 PM |
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Rumsfeld thought looting in Iraq after invasion was acceptable...! |
Imagevision |
Aug-29-05 06:17 PM |
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Thats because |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:42 PM |
#137 |
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Hmmm......I wonder what food was in that smashed ATM? |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Aug-29-05 06:40 PM |
#135 |
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Hmm I wonder what food could be bought |
undergroundpanther |
Aug-29-05 06:43 PM |
#138 |
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All the stores are closed..... |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Aug-29-05 06:47 PM |
#139 |
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That's what happens when one rationalizes dishonesty... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:51 PM |
#142 |
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You are advocating theft, not welfare, anarchy, not sharing. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 06:48 PM |
#140 |
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Nobody Is Discussing The Effect On The Looter's Soul... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:58 PM |
#145 |
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Lol! Yes, we expect nothing but immorality from *. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:06 PM |
#151 |
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Please Rent The Movie Crash... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 07:34 PM |
#154 |
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Aww hell, so does good triumph over evil, or do I rent the movie? |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:46 PM |
#157 |
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It's Set In LA |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 07:50 PM |
#159 |
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Cool, if I'm ever written into such a movie... |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:54 PM |
#161 |
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Here's A Link... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 07:54 PM |
#162 |
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Thank you, yes, it has been a rough day. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:58 PM |
#163 |
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Under Your Scenario |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 06:50 PM |
#141 |
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Bought? But if they could BUY food they wouldn't be LOOTing, |
mondo joe |
Aug-29-05 07:00 PM |
#148 |
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I Have Been Around Marxists, Socialists Anarchists, Etcetera |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Aug-29-05 07:04 PM |
#150 |
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Agreed. |
BikeWriter |
Aug-29-05 07:10 PM |
#152 |
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Locking |
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