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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 08:36 AM
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43. I've never seen one Christian DUer deny the bloody history of Christianity
But what vindictive posters don't seem to realize is that there are two factions of Christianity.

There is the Christianity of tyrants like Pope Innocent III, and there is the Christianity of Saint Francis of Assisi.

There is the Christianity of conquerors like Christopher Columbus, and there is the Christianity of Bartholomew de Las Casas.

There is the Christianity of bigots like John Calhoun, and there is the Christianity of William Lloyd Garrison.

There is the Christianity of warmongers like George W. Bush, and there is the Christianity of Archbishop Desmund Tutu.

Distinctions should be made.
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  -Jeezuz, some Christians are so easily offended! mopaul  Aug-25-05 06:44 AM   #0 
  - They want to be "persecuted"  Gman   Aug-25-05 06:50 AM   #1 
  - I don't think mopaul is referring to the "fundies" in this post  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 06:53 AM   #2 
     - Oh...  Gman   Aug-25-05 06:58 AM   #3 
  - being a christian i know i dont have to defend god. he is  seabeyond   Aug-25-05 06:59 AM   #4 
  - people in general are easily offended over little things  mopaul   Aug-25-05 07:11 AM   #5 
     - one nation under god, we will begin healing when we  seabeyond   Aug-25-05 07:12 AM   #6 
     - Actually, that is: "One nation, (comma) under God,  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 09:03 AM   #62 
     - which god, whose god, what god? You wanna get the christies in a wad - >  msongs   Aug-25-05 09:14 AM   #67 
        - How about one 'ummah, under Allah'?  igil   Aug-25-05 10:25 AM   #75 
     - we're a nation of 8 yr olds who need nanny-laws  SemperEadem   Aug-25-05 09:51 AM   #74 
  - The Extremists are Being Attacked...  tlsmith1963   Aug-25-05 07:13 AM   #7 
  - Christianity is not one huge ball of people.  bertha katzenengel   Aug-25-05 07:49 AM   #14 
     - Some expect the Islamic leaders to reign in Muslim extremists  ultraist   Aug-25-05 07:55 AM   #16 
     - Why do we expect that Islamic leaders could reign in their extremists?  bertha katzenengel   Aug-25-05 08:06 AM   #23 
        - I don't. But many do.  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:26 AM   #32 
           - I think maybe it's possible within the Catholic Church.  bertha katzenengel   Aug-25-05 08:44 AM   #48 
           - Frequently it's the congregations that need to rein in their  igil   Aug-25-05 10:29 AM   #76 
     - Sounds like you've absovled yourself of any responsibility.  Touchdown   Aug-25-05 10:43 AM   #78 
  - The things that people find offensive about Christianity really are not  acmavm   Aug-25-05 07:14 AM   #8 
  - "Being a Christian today has nothing to do . . .  bertha katzenengel   Aug-25-05 08:33 AM   #38 
  - Remember this:  shaniqua6392   Aug-25-05 07:28 AM   #9 
  - no apology needed, i support your beliefs  mopaul   Aug-25-05 07:30 AM   #10 
     - They are the ones Christ warned us about.  shaniqua6392   Aug-25-05 07:39 AM   #12 
  - They don't actually have much faith.  Tesha   Aug-25-05 07:32 AM   #11 
  - I'm rarely offended, but some posts are simply virulent  DerekG   Aug-25-05 07:40 AM   #13 
  - well, PLEASE don't look to leviticus for guidance  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 07:57 AM   #17 
     - Well, to be honest, Christians aren't supposed to follow Judaic law  Roland99   Aug-25-05 07:59 AM   #19 
     - I'm well aware of the depraved/immoral passages of the KJB  DerekG   Aug-25-05 08:09 AM   #24 
     - too bad all christians don't think like you ..  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 08:16 AM   #27 
     - And please overlook all of the mysogyny in the Bible.  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:24 AM   #31 
        - whoever wrote the bible didn't think to highly of women..  jonnyblitz   Aug-25-05 09:00 AM   #58 
  - Some people simply refuse to accept the facts about their religion  ultraist   Aug-25-05 07:54 AM   #15 
  - So are you proud to be an American?  DerekG   Aug-25-05 08:00 AM   #22 
     - Of course, I'm proud to be an American  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:22 AM   #30 
        - I've never seen one Christian DUer deny the bloody history of Christianity  DerekG   Aug-25-05 08:36 AM   #43 
           - Well, I have  ultraist   Aug-25-05 09:05 AM   #63 
  - I think those perceived as bashing Christianity don't mean to generalize.  Roland99   Aug-25-05 07:57 AM   #18 
  - of the things that has shocked me the most  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 07:59 AM   #20 
  - I wonder why a Christian DUer would ever be offended by a post..  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:12 AM   #25 
  - Clarify please, exactly what about my post is offensive  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:18 AM   #28 
     - word that comes to mind is "condescension".  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:28 AM   #34 
        - I asked you to please clarify your post;  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:29 AM   #35 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-05 08:34 AM   #39 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-25-05 08:35 AM   #41 
                 - Smugly calling someone's personal beliefs "mythical" is quite...  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:40 AM   #47 
                    - Do you understand the word "myth" in a scholarly context?  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:51 AM   #49 
                       - Be as "scholarly" as you choose to be.  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:53 AM   #52 
                       - That's an interesting reply  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:56 AM   #54 
                       - Read Joseph Campbell, Please  ProfessorGAC   Aug-25-05 10:43 AM   #77 
                          - Thank you for that clarification of the use of "myth"  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 11:04 AM   #81 
                       - Quakers weren't the only ones operating the Railroad  DerekG   Aug-25-05 09:08 AM   #64 
                          - Yes, I was just naming some religious groups off the top of my head  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 09:15 AM   #69 
  - "Remove ALL references to any religion in political public discourse?"  DerekG   Aug-25-05 08:22 AM   #29 
  - Dear, that speech was delivered by a minister at a church.  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:27 AM   #33 
  - Stephanie, "Beyond Vietnam" was no mere sermon  DerekG   Aug-25-05 08:54 AM   #53 
     - I realize that  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 09:00 AM   #59 
        - That clarifies it for me.  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 09:08 AM   #65 
        - That does clarify things, and I agree with you on several points  DerekG   Aug-25-05 09:19 AM   #70 
           - Exactly!  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 09:23 AM   #71 
              - It's all rather tragic, isn't it?  DerekG   Aug-25-05 09:40 AM   #72 
  - MLK, Jr. was not a politician  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:32 AM   #37 
  - Yep....apparently the personal speech freedoms instilled in the First..  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:36 AM   #42 
  - Well said!  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:30 AM   #36 
  - I'm not Christian but  johnnie   Aug-25-05 07:59 AM   #21 
  - have to be making that up.  tx_dem41   Aug-25-05 08:13 AM   #26 
  - Good point. Let's just face it, we have had some  dogday   Aug-25-05 08:37 AM   #44 
  - I don't get offended easily  johnnie   Aug-25-05 08:53 AM   #51 
  - I appreciate it  dogday   Aug-25-05 09:15 AM   #68 
  - Yes, you forgot a few "groups"  ultraist   Aug-25-05 08:59 AM   #57 
     - You are right  dogday   Aug-25-05 09:13 AM   #66 
  - Which confirms what Stephanie was saying in #20...  SidDithers   Aug-25-05 08:58 AM   #56 
     - Thank you!  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 09:02 AM   #60 
     - Yes, it does happen.  ultraist   Aug-25-05 09:02 AM   #61 
  - Do posts like this serve any productive purpose?  etherealtruth   Aug-25-05 08:34 AM   #40 
  - Yes, these threads serve a very productive purpose  Thtwudbeme   Aug-25-05 08:38 AM   #45 
  - I doubt an agreement will ever be reached  johnnie   Aug-25-05 08:56 AM   #55 
  - I don't see them stimulating productive dialog ...  etherealtruth   Aug-25-05 11:06 AM   #82 
  - Yeah, actually, they do.  Walt Starr   Aug-25-05 08:40 AM   #46 
     - I've learned a lot here ...  etherealtruth   Aug-25-05 08:52 AM   #50 
  - one here gets offended by anything  ProdigalJunkMail   Aug-25-05 09:45 AM   #73 
  - I seriously cannot believe that you aren't trying to provoke a reaction  bryant69   Aug-25-05 10:54 AM   #79 
  - i'm not upset at all actually  mopaul   Aug-25-05 11:28 AM   #83 
     - Why did you change the name of  bryant69   Aug-25-05 11:42 AM   #84 
  - Get off that Cross....... We need the Wood.  TWiley   Aug-25-05 11:01 AM   #80 
  - Hell, why do we care when bush speaks for 'us'- why do we get offended?  Bluerthanblue   Aug-25-05 11:42 AM   #85 
  - Locking...  Moderator   Aug-25-05 11:43 AM   #86 

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