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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 05:21 PM
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12. This is ominiously close to a theory a friend of mine tries to convey
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 05:25 PM by radio4progressives
you said:

"Could Wilson & Co. be cover-up artists, but not aligned with Bushco? "

that's what my friend says - his theory is that we (the anti-war/liberal/progressive community) are all being duped to rally around his "cause" in order to make certain that a law gets passed which will force journalists to identify their sources (whistleblowers, etc) or face prosecution and time in prison.

In other words, he's trying to get me to understand that the goal was to raise the stakes on the public war against Judith Miller (for her role in establishing a phony justification for going to war in Iraq) in order to get the Public to go along with legislation that confidential sources will no longer be allowed for journalists.

IOW, that the liberal and progressive communities are being herded like sheep into acting as the "coalition of the willing" in enabling the CIA and intelligence community to destroy the first amendment as it applies to a free press which is absolutely required in a free and open society.

He's saying this is Wilson & Co.'s actual agenda - and if we allow this to take place - that will be the end of a free press forever.

and it will be our fault.

He's saying that we in the progressive/liberal community are so blinded by our collective hatred for Judith Miller, that we're failing to see the forest for the trees, that our inability to separate issues of principle against emotional issues prevents us from taking the correct course of action and this has been our collective failing (one of many)through out the decades.

I'm still mulling this one over - I'm not quite ready to say with certainty that Wilson & Co are working us. But i take my friend's point on the principles of a free press - and how we can't allow Wilson or friends in Congress to pass a law that will mean real whistleblowers will no longer have protection regarding their identity.


"Might some whitewashers simply consider it their duty to "protect" the sheep and maintain profit flow?"

I don't know about this other issue regarding profit flow, i must have missed some important new twists or developments

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