| 142. Don't ever get on a plane. |
| -PARENTS: Please do not bring your children to the DC demonstration. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 09:57 AM |
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To hell with that |
Greeby |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Anyone have ino whether this protest will be televised? |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
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The Revolution will not be televised. |
JohnnyBoots |
Aug-21-05 07:01 PM |
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Catch 22: Discretion may be spun as intention. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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That crossed my mind too. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-21-05 10:03 AM |
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that's what I'm thinking |
Solly Mack |
Aug-21-05 10:22 AM |
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I was planning on it |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Phototags like to take pictures of children with protest |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:01 AM |
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Very true |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:03 AM |
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Share a pic with DU |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:08 AM |
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here you go... |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:12 AM |
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Cute girl PLUS I see |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:16 AM |
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So let's designate a CONTINGENCY PLAN |
lildreamer316 |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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That's a word to the wise. |
zanne |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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There are Pros and Cons to that |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Its probably not the DC police |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 10:08 AM |
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The last thing Rove would want is a hurt bleeding child |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:09 AM |
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I think their so wrapped up in their own arrogance |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:40 AM |
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seriouly? Rove couldn't care less about your bleeding child |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:42 PM |
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I have to agree |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 10:04 AM |
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So, Ben, are you saying I shouldn't go to the protest? |
SeanQuinn |
Aug-21-05 10:10 AM |
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At 12 you are likely large enough that a beanbag is unlikley to kill you. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:17 AM |
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I see where you are coming from. Gotcha. |
SeanQuinn |
Aug-21-05 12:33 PM |
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Exactly. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 01:15 PM |
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I wholeheartedly disagree....... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 10:12 AM |
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It is up to you, of course. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:20 AM |
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let me ask you something....... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 10:36 AM |
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You're willing to have your kids shot by cops if it hurts Bush? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:15 PM |
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well excuse me.......... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:40 PM |
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That's the whole difference - are they old enough to choose for themselves |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 08:02 PM |
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sympathise; worried about disabled as well....BUT King said abt children |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:35 PM |
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blue sky at night -I agree. Lets all just keep our heads down and hope |
Al-CIAda |
Aug-21-05 11:50 AM |
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Okay I may get flamed but I don't care... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 12:30 PM |
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What? |
ultraist |
Aug-21-05 12:53 PM |
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What I am proposing is... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 01:40 PM |
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WHOA .... children were hosed and attacked by dogs in civil rights demos |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:45 PM |
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First of all, we're dealing with a renegade administration as in |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:54 PM |
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No flame from me.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 02:16 PM |
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Well.... |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 08:56 AM |
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Have to disagree. As an activist mom, it my duty to educate my kids |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:48 PM |
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Emily is coming with me..... |
liberalnurse |
Aug-22-05 08:13 PM |
#180 |
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I don't know your kids, but..... |
Kitka |
Aug-21-05 02:58 PM |
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With all due respect... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 05:28 PM |
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It's impossible to know, even as they approach adulthood, |
Kitka |
Aug-21-05 10:50 PM |
#156 |
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You make some sense. |
the_spectator |
Aug-21-05 04:34 PM |
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Have you ever considered that you're underestimating the kids? |
MadHound |
Aug-22-05 08:44 AM |
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Why put children in danger... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 01:48 PM |
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Bluesky, so your saying it's ok to sacrifice your kid for something |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:46 PM |
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Do you understand the principle of setting an example.... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:03 PM |
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So you think it's okay for force your children to die for your ideals? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:22 PM |
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Those who are going to Iraq are adults. |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 07:45 PM |
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Oh my, jumping to conclusions.......my fault. |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:56 PM |
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Who's jumping to conclusions? |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 08:01 PM |
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setting an axample? only if no harm comes to children by mistake? |
Imagevision |
Aug-22-05 10:19 AM |
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Tasers and attack dogs used in Pittsburgh yesterday (article link below) |
ModRepubinPA |
Aug-21-05 10:19 AM |
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They will use provocateurs to cause disruptions and to give the |
merh |
Aug-21-05 10:26 AM |
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MERH> excellant point-using provocateurs to cause disruptions |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:49 PM |
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They did it in the 60's & 70's |
merh |
Aug-21-05 04:19 PM |
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if they're going to sic the dogs on grandma |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:49 AM |
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Bring children so there isn't political violence. N.Klein's Fences&Wind's: |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:20 AM |
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I don't seriously think Children would stop these goons. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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Naomi Klein writes about people who make arguments like yours. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:32 AM |
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The last thing I want is to discourage protest.q |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:34 AM |
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Modern protests discourage VIOLENT protests. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:44 AM |
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I saw 1968 from up close. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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Have you read Fences and Windows? |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 12:12 PM |
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It sounds like you're wanting a fight. I think most people here |
kitkat65 |
Aug-21-05 07:02 PM |
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We live just outside of Seattle |
JulieRB |
Aug-21-05 01:24 PM |
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Seattle changed strategies. It made non-violence & humor key. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 01:42 PM |
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"Non-violence" and "humor" only work if there are no hidden agendas |
JulieRB |
Aug-21-05 02:03 PM |
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Aug-21-05 03:28 PM |
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You think it isn't important to read a well-researched and well-argued |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 01:53 AM |
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So hiding behind children is a good thing? |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-21-05 10:30 AM |
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Read Naomi Klein's Windows and Fences. Don't go planning violence, and |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:33 AM |
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Hello, it's the COPS that will use violence |
HEyHEY |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
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Hello, read Naomi Klein. |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 09:58 AM |
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Naomi Klein is full of shit |
HEyHEY |
Aug-22-05 10:42 AM |
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Right. |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 11:04 AM |
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Sometimes it's not "hiding behind children", either. |
TankLV |
Aug-21-05 11:57 AM |
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Thank you for that |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 02:23 PM |
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Just because there are children there.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 02:23 PM |
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Bushco's spin machine... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 05:45 PM |
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WOW, I understand the concern, but, well just WOW |
hlthe2b |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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I posted this because I don't WANT to know if they would harm kids. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:26 AM |
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I think the danger level depends on our eventual goals |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:45 AM |
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I don't think these protests |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-21-05 10:28 AM |
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Just because this misAdministration doesn't care about children |
William769 |
Aug-21-05 10:29 AM |
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I am taking my 10 and 8 year old boys.... |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 10:35 AM |
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My friend and I are thinking of going with our 14 year old daughters |
dddem |
Aug-21-05 10:59 AM |
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They rough up a kid on television, the war's over. They won't. |
carpetbagger |
Aug-21-05 11:15 AM |
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You assume that the political process means anything now. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 11:25 AM |
#39 |
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we could be a reasons they call martial law |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:46 AM |
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It's no more fascist than Alabama in the 1960's. n/t |
carpetbagger |
Aug-21-05 07:00 PM |
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i agree w. carpetbagger & 1932 |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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Rough up a "kid"? ...they report he was a threat! do you live under a rock |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:20 PM |
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Johnson, not Kennedy |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:55 PM |
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This is a "permitted" march |
beltanefauve |
Aug-21-05 11:16 AM |
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Right now, we are leaning toward |
tomg |
Aug-21-05 11:44 AM |
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I agree Ben |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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I don't know, if we keep allowing them to instill certain fears of |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-21-05 11:59 AM |
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The responsible thing to do |
La Coliniere |
Aug-21-05 12:10 PM |
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Also, younger children |
burrowowl |
Aug-21-05 04:24 PM |
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"there is a significant chance of police violence " why do you think that? |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 12:15 PM |
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why hide? why pretend? It is for the future of OUR children! |
CountAllVotes |
Aug-21-05 12:17 PM |
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I'm not certain that the DC, or Park, Police will use the Miami Model yet. |
JanMichael |
Aug-21-05 12:23 PM |
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Totally disagree. |
Donailin |
Aug-21-05 12:46 PM |
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MLK didn't want his kids to go to some of the protests he attended |
The Animator |
Aug-21-05 01:11 PM |
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are these chances of police violence as likely as, say, the nuke that |
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Aug-21-05 01:46 PM |
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DON'T BRING THE KIDS!!! |
RazorNY22 |
Aug-21-05 01:48 PM |
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Why would any parent subject his kid to the possibility of harm? |
BigBearJohn |
Aug-21-05 01:56 PM |
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Someone upthread is arguing that he has the right to sacrifice his kids |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:24 PM |
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My kids came to a number of pre-war and the RNC |
kohodog |
Aug-21-05 02:03 PM |
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Older children, yes. Babies and toddlers, no. |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 02:05 PM |
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Already booked w my 7 and 9 yo included. I intend to be peaceful |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:36 PM |
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If you bring your kids - they get hurt, it's on you not BUSH! |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:40 PM |
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BS I am bringing my children to a peace rally. We are law abiding citizen |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:55 PM |
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Bring the kids? you'll be dealing with gustapo like tactics |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:08 PM |
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How many of the recent protests have you been to? |
kohodog |
Aug-21-05 07:11 PM |
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Does it matter who's fault it is if the worst happens? |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 04:26 PM |
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damn it i inten to bring all 4 of my children youngest is 13 |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-21-05 02:43 PM |
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I don't think anyone objects to that - |
the_spectator |
Aug-21-05 04:37 PM |
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I will bring my son if I go. He's 11. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-21-05 04:42 PM |
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It has given me pause |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 05:44 PM |
#112 |
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I agree that it would be best |
mmonk |
Aug-21-05 02:50 PM |
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The old non-violence standbys aren't going to work |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 04:52 PM |
#109 |
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Dogs Used On Antiwar Protesters In Pittsburgh (Yeah, bring the kids!) |
BigBearJohn |
Aug-21-05 02:51 PM |
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Tear gas and pepper spray don't select only those over 18. |
davsand |
Aug-21-05 04:00 PM |
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Add to that the provocateurs/spoilers to manage the protest |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:11 PM |
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Don't bring them because it isn't right anyway |
HEyHEY |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
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My kid's understood since he was 6 or 7. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-21-05 04:43 PM |
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Yeah. It's just as bad as taking young kids to pro-war rallies. |
JVS |
Aug-21-05 05:47 PM |
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For those still convinced it is OK for children.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 04:39 PM |
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that's Pittsburgh |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 03:54 PM |
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Lets hope your right.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-22-05 05:35 PM |
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We took our two children to three of the rallies in DC |
qanda |
Aug-21-05 04:53 PM |
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I agree. My kids have been going to protsts since before the war, as do |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 05:47 PM |
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Therein lies some of the problem |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 06:51 PM |
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Dare them to do it, they do it, and what changes? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 06:54 PM |
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then people get to see the secret police in action |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 07:00 PM |
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Worked pretty well in 1968 Chicago, eh? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 07:09 PM |
#125 |
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Sorry, but I follow in the light of MLK, John Conyers, John Lewis + others |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 07:12 PM |
#127 |
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I never suggested that we start any violence |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 07:19 PM |
#131 |
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You have some stats to back this up? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 06:57 PM |
#118 |
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Yesterday's protest in PA |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 07:06 PM |
#124 |
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Protest YESTERDAY: "Pepper spray also hit a group of children" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 07:36 PM |
#134 |
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Traffic Today: "One dead after car crash in Grey" |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 08:08 PM |
#143 |
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We do go about our ordinary daily business driving on roads... |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 08:42 PM |
#146 |
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The point, however, is that the conjecture that a protest is dangerous... |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:28 PM |
#151 |
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There have been numerous threads here expressing concern |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 11:18 PM |
#157 |
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Bring everybody |
brettdale |
Aug-21-05 07:17 PM |
#129 |
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You know when I first read this thread I said... |
spuddonna |
Aug-21-05 07:18 PM |
#130 |
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Don't ever get on a plane. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 08:05 PM |
#142 |
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LOL Ok, ok point taken... |
spuddonna |
Aug-21-05 08:21 PM |
#145 |
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I asked that question upthread, but didn't get an answer. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:19 PM |
#149 |
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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured... |
spuddonna |
Aug-22-05 03:02 AM |
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safer in DC than anywhere else, probably in the world |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 09:58 AM |
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BULLSHIT! Bring your kids. Pull the mask off of the FASCISTS |
Postman |
Aug-21-05 07:49 PM |
#137 |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Aug-21-05 08:15 PM |
#144 |
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Spoke to an activist who attended MLK's I have a Dream rally years ago |
mod mom |
Aug-22-05 08:32 AM |
#161 |
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That's right. |
H2O Man |
Aug-22-05 08:24 PM |
#181 |
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Thank you for your input H2O Man |
leftchick |
Aug-22-05 08:49 AM |
#163 |
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That's good. |
H2O Man |
Aug-22-05 08:30 PM |
#183 |
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I disagree |
DoYouEverWonder |
Aug-21-05 07:57 PM |
#139 |
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Cool you feel safe. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 08:49 PM |
#147 |
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I went to all of the Vietnam War Moratoriums |
DoYouEverWonder |
Aug-21-05 09:23 PM |
#150 |
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I hate to bring this up, because I have thought about bringing my 9 year |
spacelady |
Aug-21-05 09:03 PM |
#148 |
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Remember all the picture posts from the numerous protests... |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:51 PM |
#154 |
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If you are arrested |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 11:25 PM |
#158 |
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Lol, im 14 |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 09:04 AM |
#165 |
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A father's story of his kids pepper sprayed at peaceful protest... |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-22-05 09:28 AM |
#166 |
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My kid is going! And that is that! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-22-05 09:34 AM |
#167 |
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kick |
patrioticliberal |
Aug-22-05 09:36 AM |
#168 |
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it's all very sweet |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 09:54 AM |
#169 |
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Im wondering.... |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 10:01 AM |
#172 |
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leave your knife at home |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 03:56 PM |
#177 |
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It's all good |
BlueJac |
Aug-22-05 03:58 PM |
#178 |
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Having been to a DC anti-war march, I'd have to agree. |
Fatima |
Aug-22-05 08:27 PM |
#182 |
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Pro-Choice March was Big and Peaceful |
AnnieBW |
Aug-22-05 09:35 PM |
#184 |