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over arguments over idiotic adult behaviour. Your teaching your kids it okay to stand up for what you believe in through your actions. Go protest yourself, but leave the kids at home if there even the remote possibity of danger.
BTW I assume you tell your kids not to stand in traffic right?
Driving, swimming, and such are not the same as deliberatly meeting with confrontation... and as I stated in a different post kids under the age of 12 may not have an opinion on such matters. So whats the point? You would be sacraficing you own child for your view... not theirs.
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| -PARENTS: Please do not bring your children to the DC demonstration. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 09:57 AM |
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To hell with that |
Greeby |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Anyone have ino whether this protest will be televised? |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
#101 |
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The Revolution will not be televised. |
JohnnyBoots |
Aug-21-05 07:01 PM |
#121 |
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Catch 22: Discretion may be spun as intention. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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That crossed my mind too. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-21-05 10:03 AM |
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that's what I'm thinking |
Solly Mack |
Aug-21-05 10:22 AM |
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I was planning on it |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Phototags like to take pictures of children with protest |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:01 AM |
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Very true |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:03 AM |
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Share a pic with DU |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:08 AM |
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here you go... |
malta blue |
Aug-21-05 10:12 AM |
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Cute girl PLUS I see |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:16 AM |
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So let's designate a CONTINGENCY PLAN |
lildreamer316 |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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That's a word to the wise. |
zanne |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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There are Pros and Cons to that |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Its probably not the DC police |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 10:08 AM |
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The last thing Rove would want is a hurt bleeding child |
wakeme2008 |
Aug-21-05 10:09 AM |
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I think their so wrapped up in their own arrogance |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:40 AM |
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seriouly? Rove couldn't care less about your bleeding child |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:42 PM |
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I have to agree |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 10:04 AM |
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So, Ben, are you saying I shouldn't go to the protest? |
SeanQuinn |
Aug-21-05 10:10 AM |
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At 12 you are likely large enough that a beanbag is unlikley to kill you. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:17 AM |
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I see where you are coming from. Gotcha. |
SeanQuinn |
Aug-21-05 12:33 PM |
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Exactly. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 01:15 PM |
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I wholeheartedly disagree....... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 10:12 AM |
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It is up to you, of course. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:20 AM |
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let me ask you something....... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 10:36 AM |
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You're willing to have your kids shot by cops if it hurts Bush? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:15 PM |
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well excuse me.......... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:40 PM |
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That's the whole difference - are they old enough to choose for themselves |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 08:02 PM |
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sympathise; worried about disabled as well....BUT King said abt children |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:35 PM |
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blue sky at night -I agree. Lets all just keep our heads down and hope |
Al-CIAda |
Aug-21-05 11:50 AM |
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Okay I may get flamed but I don't care... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 12:30 PM |
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What? |
ultraist |
Aug-21-05 12:53 PM |
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What I am proposing is... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 01:40 PM |
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WHOA .... children were hosed and attacked by dogs in civil rights demos |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:45 PM |
#153 |
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First of all, we're dealing with a renegade administration as in |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:54 PM |
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No flame from me.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 02:16 PM |
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Well.... |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 08:56 AM |
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Have to disagree. As an activist mom, it my duty to educate my kids |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:48 PM |
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Emily is coming with me..... |
liberalnurse |
Aug-22-05 08:13 PM |
#180 |
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I don't know your kids, but..... |
Kitka |
Aug-21-05 02:58 PM |
#92 |
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With all due respect... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 05:28 PM |
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It's impossible to know, even as they approach adulthood, |
Kitka |
Aug-21-05 10:50 PM |
#156 |
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You make some sense. |
the_spectator |
Aug-21-05 04:34 PM |
#104 |
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Have you ever considered that you're underestimating the kids? |
MadHound |
Aug-22-05 08:44 AM |
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Why put children in danger... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 01:48 PM |
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Bluesky, so your saying it's ok to sacrifice your kid for something |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:46 PM |
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Do you understand the principle of setting an example.... |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:03 PM |
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So you think it's okay for force your children to die for your ideals? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:22 PM |
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Those who are going to Iraq are adults. |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 07:45 PM |
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Oh my, jumping to conclusions.......my fault. |
blue sky at night |
Aug-21-05 07:56 PM |
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Who's jumping to conclusions? |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 08:01 PM |
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setting an axample? only if no harm comes to children by mistake? |
Imagevision |
Aug-22-05 10:19 AM |
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Tasers and attack dogs used in Pittsburgh yesterday (article link below) |
ModRepubinPA |
Aug-21-05 10:19 AM |
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They will use provocateurs to cause disruptions and to give the |
merh |
Aug-21-05 10:26 AM |
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MERH> excellant point-using provocateurs to cause disruptions |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:49 PM |
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They did it in the 60's & 70's |
merh |
Aug-21-05 04:19 PM |
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if they're going to sic the dogs on grandma |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:49 AM |
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Bring children so there isn't political violence. N.Klein's Fences&Wind's: |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:20 AM |
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I don't seriously think Children would stop these goons. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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Naomi Klein writes about people who make arguments like yours. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:32 AM |
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The last thing I want is to discourage protest.q |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:34 AM |
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Modern protests discourage VIOLENT protests. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:44 AM |
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I saw 1968 from up close. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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Have you read Fences and Windows? |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 12:12 PM |
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It sounds like you're wanting a fight. I think most people here |
kitkat65 |
Aug-21-05 07:02 PM |
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We live just outside of Seattle |
JulieRB |
Aug-21-05 01:24 PM |
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Seattle changed strategies. It made non-violence & humor key. |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 01:42 PM |
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"Non-violence" and "humor" only work if there are no hidden agendas |
JulieRB |
Aug-21-05 02:03 PM |
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You think it isn't important to read a well-researched and well-argued |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 01:53 AM |
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So hiding behind children is a good thing? |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-21-05 10:30 AM |
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Read Naomi Klein's Windows and Fences. Don't go planning violence, and |
1932 |
Aug-21-05 10:33 AM |
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Hello, it's the COPS that will use violence |
HEyHEY |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
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Hello, read Naomi Klein. |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 09:58 AM |
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Naomi Klein is full of shit |
HEyHEY |
Aug-22-05 10:42 AM |
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Right. |
1932 |
Aug-22-05 11:04 AM |
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Sometimes it's not "hiding behind children", either. |
TankLV |
Aug-21-05 11:57 AM |
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Thank you for that |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 02:23 PM |
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Just because there are children there.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 02:23 PM |
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Bushco's spin machine... |
teknomanzer |
Aug-21-05 05:45 PM |
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WOW, I understand the concern, but, well just WOW |
hlthe2b |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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I posted this because I don't WANT to know if they would harm kids. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 10:26 AM |
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I think the danger level depends on our eventual goals |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:45 AM |
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I don't think these protests |
BlackVelvet04 |
Aug-21-05 10:28 AM |
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Just because this misAdministration doesn't care about children |
William769 |
Aug-21-05 10:29 AM |
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I am taking my 10 and 8 year old boys.... |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 10:35 AM |
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My friend and I are thinking of going with our 14 year old daughters |
dddem |
Aug-21-05 10:59 AM |
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They rough up a kid on television, the war's over. They won't. |
carpetbagger |
Aug-21-05 11:15 AM |
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You assume that the political process means anything now. |
benburch |
Aug-21-05 11:25 AM |
#39 |
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we could be a reasons they call martial law |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 11:46 AM |
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It's no more fascist than Alabama in the 1960's. n/t |
carpetbagger |
Aug-21-05 07:00 PM |
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i agree w. carpetbagger & 1932 |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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Rough up a "kid"? ...they report he was a threat! do you live under a rock |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:20 PM |
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Johnson, not Kennedy |
bobbieinok |
Aug-21-05 09:55 PM |
#155 |
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This is a "permitted" march |
beltanefauve |
Aug-21-05 11:16 AM |
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Right now, we are leaning toward |
tomg |
Aug-21-05 11:44 AM |
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I agree Ben |
Horse with no Name |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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I don't know, if we keep allowing them to instill certain fears of |
AuntPatsy |
Aug-21-05 11:59 AM |
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The responsible thing to do |
La Coliniere |
Aug-21-05 12:10 PM |
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Also, younger children |
burrowowl |
Aug-21-05 04:24 PM |
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"there is a significant chance of police violence " why do you think that? |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 12:15 PM |
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why hide? why pretend? It is for the future of OUR children! |
CountAllVotes |
Aug-21-05 12:17 PM |
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I'm not certain that the DC, or Park, Police will use the Miami Model yet. |
JanMichael |
Aug-21-05 12:23 PM |
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Totally disagree. |
Donailin |
Aug-21-05 12:46 PM |
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MLK didn't want his kids to go to some of the protests he attended |
The Animator |
Aug-21-05 01:11 PM |
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are these chances of police violence as likely as, say, the nuke that |
Catholic Sensation |
Aug-21-05 01:46 PM |
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DON'T BRING THE KIDS!!! |
RazorNY22 |
Aug-21-05 01:48 PM |
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Why would any parent subject his kid to the possibility of harm? |
BigBearJohn |
Aug-21-05 01:56 PM |
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Someone upthread is arguing that he has the right to sacrifice his kids |
WildEyedLiberal |
Aug-21-05 07:24 PM |
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My kids came to a number of pre-war and the RNC |
kohodog |
Aug-21-05 02:03 PM |
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Older children, yes. Babies and toddlers, no. |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 02:05 PM |
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Already booked w my 7 and 9 yo included. I intend to be peaceful |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:36 PM |
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If you bring your kids - they get hurt, it's on you not BUSH! |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 02:40 PM |
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BS I am bringing my children to a peace rally. We are law abiding citizen |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 02:55 PM |
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Bring the kids? you'll be dealing with gustapo like tactics |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:08 PM |
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How many of the recent protests have you been to? |
kohodog |
Aug-21-05 07:11 PM |
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Does it matter who's fault it is if the worst happens? |
Pithlet |
Aug-21-05 04:26 PM |
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damn it i inten to bring all 4 of my children youngest is 13 |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Aug-21-05 02:43 PM |
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I don't think anyone objects to that - |
the_spectator |
Aug-21-05 04:37 PM |
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I will bring my son if I go. He's 11. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-21-05 04:42 PM |
#107 |
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It has given me pause |
leftchick |
Aug-21-05 05:44 PM |
#112 |
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I agree that it would be best |
mmonk |
Aug-21-05 02:50 PM |
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The old non-violence standbys aren't going to work |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 04:52 PM |
#109 |
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Dogs Used On Antiwar Protesters In Pittsburgh (Yeah, bring the kids!) |
BigBearJohn |
Aug-21-05 02:51 PM |
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Tear gas and pepper spray don't select only those over 18. |
davsand |
Aug-21-05 04:00 PM |
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Add to that the provocateurs/spoilers to manage the protest |
Imagevision |
Aug-21-05 04:11 PM |
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Don't bring them because it isn't right anyway |
HEyHEY |
Aug-21-05 04:22 PM |
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My kid's understood since he was 6 or 7. |
Maddy McCall |
Aug-21-05 04:43 PM |
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Yeah. It's just as bad as taking young kids to pro-war rallies. |
JVS |
Aug-21-05 05:47 PM |
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For those still convinced it is OK for children.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-21-05 04:39 PM |
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that's Pittsburgh |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 03:54 PM |
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Lets hope your right.... |
KerryOn |
Aug-22-05 05:35 PM |
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We took our two children to three of the rallies in DC |
qanda |
Aug-21-05 04:53 PM |
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I agree. My kids have been going to protsts since before the war, as do |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 05:47 PM |
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Therein lies some of the problem |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 06:51 PM |
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Dare them to do it, they do it, and what changes? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 06:54 PM |
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then people get to see the secret police in action |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 07:00 PM |
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Worked pretty well in 1968 Chicago, eh? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 07:09 PM |
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Sorry, but I follow in the light of MLK, John Conyers, John Lewis + others |
mod mom |
Aug-21-05 07:12 PM |
#127 |
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I never suggested that we start any violence |
shadowknows69 |
Aug-21-05 07:19 PM |
#131 |
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You have some stats to back this up? |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 06:57 PM |
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Yesterday's protest in PA |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 07:06 PM |
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Protest YESTERDAY: "Pepper spray also hit a group of children" |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 07:36 PM |
#134 |
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Traffic Today: "One dead after car crash in Grey" |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 08:08 PM |
#143 |
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We do go about our ordinary daily business driving on roads... |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 08:42 PM |
#146 |
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The point, however, is that the conjecture that a protest is dangerous... |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:28 PM |
#151 |
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There have been numerous threads here expressing concern |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 11:18 PM |
#157 |
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Bring everybody |
brettdale |
Aug-21-05 07:17 PM |
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You know when I first read this thread I said... |
spuddonna |
Aug-21-05 07:18 PM |
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Don't ever get on a plane. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 08:05 PM |
#142 |
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LOL Ok, ok point taken... |
spuddonna |
Aug-21-05 08:21 PM |
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I asked that question upthread, but didn't get an answer. |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:19 PM |
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Yeah, that's kinda what I figured... |
spuddonna |
Aug-22-05 03:02 AM |
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safer in DC than anywhere else, probably in the world |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 09:58 AM |
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BULLSHIT! Bring your kids. Pull the mask off of the FASCISTS |
Postman |
Aug-21-05 07:49 PM |
#137 |
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Yep. |
H2O Man |
Aug-21-05 08:15 PM |
#144 |
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Spoke to an activist who attended MLK's I have a Dream rally years ago |
mod mom |
Aug-22-05 08:32 AM |
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That's right. |
H2O Man |
Aug-22-05 08:24 PM |
#181 |
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Thank you for your input H2O Man |
leftchick |
Aug-22-05 08:49 AM |
#163 |
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That's good. |
H2O Man |
Aug-22-05 08:30 PM |
#183 |
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I disagree |
DoYouEverWonder |
Aug-21-05 07:57 PM |
#139 |
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Cool you feel safe. |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 08:49 PM |
#147 |
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I went to all of the Vietnam War Moratoriums |
DoYouEverWonder |
Aug-21-05 09:23 PM |
#150 |
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I hate to bring this up, because I have thought about bringing my 9 year |
spacelady |
Aug-21-05 09:03 PM |
#148 |
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Remember all the picture posts from the numerous protests... |
Telly Savalas |
Aug-21-05 09:51 PM |
#154 |
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If you are arrested |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-21-05 11:25 PM |
#158 |
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Lol, im 14 |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 09:04 AM |
#165 |
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A father's story of his kids pepper sprayed at peaceful protest... |
troubleinwinter |
Aug-22-05 09:28 AM |
#166 |
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My kid is going! And that is that! |
lonestarnot |
Aug-22-05 09:34 AM |
#167 |
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kick |
patrioticliberal |
Aug-22-05 09:36 AM |
#168 |
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it's all very sweet |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 09:54 AM |
#169 |
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Im wondering.... |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
Aug-22-05 10:01 AM |
#172 |
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leave your knife at home |
northzax |
Aug-22-05 03:56 PM |
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It's all good |
BlueJac |
Aug-22-05 03:58 PM |
#178 |
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Having been to a DC anti-war march, I'd have to agree. |
Fatima |
Aug-22-05 08:27 PM |
#182 |
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Pro-Choice March was Big and Peaceful |
AnnieBW |
Aug-22-05 09:35 PM |
#184 |