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diapers. I am not saying it is right to be shoplifting because it is totally wrong but some people have little or no money and they are desperate. To have Mr. Driver subjected to that torture and die is surely a higher crime than shoplifting diapers for your newborn. I hope the store employees are prosecuted.
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| -Father of 2-month old shoplifts(?) diapers, dies in Walmart parking lot |
lostnfound |
Aug-21-05 08:31 AM |
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Aug-21-05 08:36 AM |
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That's sick. |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-21-05 08:40 AM |
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I thought so too. |
Blue State Native |
Aug-21-05 08:44 AM |
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HEY PEOPLE! LIGHTEN UP.! |
Tom Yossarian Joad |
Aug-21-05 11:00 AM |
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Sorry, but I can't sympathize with someone who views someone else |
Beelzebud |
Aug-21-05 11:05 AM |
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He went too far |
Godlesscommieprevert |
Aug-21-05 11:09 AM |
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I missed it |
DS1 |
Aug-21-05 11:43 AM |
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See post #76. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 12:09 PM |
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Here ya go |
Godlesscommieprevert |
Aug-21-05 12:47 PM |
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Lighten up?!?! Tell that to the baby of the dead man. |
smbolisnch |
Aug-21-05 11:11 AM |
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Hey lighten up. The poster was picked on by this "sort of jerk". |
Beelzebud |
Aug-21-05 11:18 AM |
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I appreciate those words, TYJ. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:19 AM |
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It's still disgusting |
FreedomAngel82 |
Aug-21-05 11:24 AM |
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Aug-21-05 11:28 AM |
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What is the purpose of this comment? |
proud2Blib |
Aug-21-05 08:57 AM |
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WTF? n/t |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 08:58 AM |
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The penalty in court for shoplifting |
China_cat |
Aug-21-05 08:59 AM |
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If Someone Was Holding You Down, Handcuffed to Hot Tarmac |
Crisco |
Aug-21-05 09:09 AM |
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Aug-21-05 01:41 PM |
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No offense |
DefenseLawyer |
Aug-21-05 09:16 AM |
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Aug-21-05 09:42 AM |
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Whoa... |
smbolisnch |
Aug-21-05 09:51 AM |
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Huh? |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 09:58 AM |
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Aug-21-05 10:07 AM |
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Aug-21-05 10:11 AM |
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THIS IS THE FACE OF THE BUSH ECONOMY AND YOU SCORN HIM? |
blm |
Aug-21-05 10:24 AM |
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And it's an alleged shoplifing. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 10:25 AM |
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You don't know this guy's story... |
progressivebydesign |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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This is exactly why this needs to be sorted out |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 11:29 AM |
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or by a bunch of people on the Internet. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:50 AM |
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It's a discussion board. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 11:52 AM |
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Some are also making judgements.... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:56 AM |
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Of course. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 12:01 PM |
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Thanks for the concern about me not feeling well. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 12:03 PM |
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You're welcome. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 12:07 PM |
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It's called giving the murdered parent the benefit of the doubt. |
blm |
Aug-21-05 11:44 AM |
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You know, as I gay person I resent when someone treats me with |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 10:32 AM |
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Maybe you needed the snot beat out of you. |
Beelzebud |
Aug-21-05 10:55 AM |
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Aug-21-05 10:55 AM |
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Please, that remark was not necessary |
devinsgram |
Aug-21-05 10:57 AM |
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so the death penalty is ... |
Pepperbelly |
Aug-21-05 11:07 AM |
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Speaking of which, the incident sounds like MURDER to me. n/t |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 11:13 AM |
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It is murder |
FreedomAngel82 |
Aug-21-05 11:27 AM |
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And by the way . . . |
tilsammans |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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This was murder - |
the_spectator |
Aug-21-05 01:24 PM |
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Geeeez . . . |
HereSince1628 |
Aug-21-05 11:36 AM |
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This story is so disturbing. The death of a man for some ... |
Missy M |
Aug-21-05 08:37 AM |
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At any point in the process, Mr. Driver... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 09:55 AM |
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Yeah, all he had to do was stop breathing |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 10:00 AM |
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Well...that's callous. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:02 AM |
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and none of that justifies what they did to him |
JI7 |
Aug-21-05 10:05 AM |
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I agree with your sentiment. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:28 AM |
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it's a blaming the victim type argument |
JI7 |
Aug-21-05 10:38 AM |
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I believe in the eyes of the law.... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:41 AM |
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your life is worth less than DIAPERS |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 10:57 AM |
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Nope, I hate the law. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:59 AM |
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You are contradicting yourself. |
im10ashus |
Aug-21-05 11:13 AM |
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Don't chop my quote in half or I'll start calling you Drudge |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:16 AM |
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Call me whatever you like. |
im10ashus |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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No....the quote said..... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:26 AM |
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Glad to oblige your chuckle. |
im10ashus |
Aug-21-05 11:31 AM |
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Sheesh...I can't believe I'm going on with this.... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:36 AM |
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i can |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:42 AM |
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They bask in the attention! |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-21-05 12:03 PM |
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yes if you also steal a gun while you're at it |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:41 AM |
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he had nothing on him when they strangled him to death but sunglasses |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:47 AM |
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yeah, well |
shanti |
Aug-21-05 12:02 PM |
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Punishment is NEVER the right or responsibility of the alleged victim. |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-21-05 01:23 PM |
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Desperate times... |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 10:06 AM |
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And shirtless on hot pavement, too. |
Lars39 |
Aug-21-05 10:08 AM |
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I am sure he was desperate to do this in the first place |
smbolisnch |
Aug-21-05 10:20 AM |
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So if you are pulled over for speeding |
DefenseLawyer |
Aug-21-05 10:38 AM |
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Please point out where I said it was "okay" that he died? |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:53 AM |
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Has it been confirmed that he was shoplifting? |
ContraBass Black |
Aug-21-05 10:49 AM |
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Thank you. I was just going to ask the |
mountainvue |
Aug-21-05 12:15 PM |
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Thank you. I've been in a chokehold. It's sad that the obvious |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:18 PM |
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Perhaps he was burning on the HOT tarmac |
Godlesscommieprevert |
Aug-21-05 10:58 AM |
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If my skin were being SEARED like a steak while I was being held |
kestrel91316 |
Aug-21-05 01:20 PM |
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And so what? He deserved to die? The employee actions were justified? |
kenzee13 |
Aug-21-05 10:18 AM |
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Exactly. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 10:22 AM |
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Where did I say he deserved to die? |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:25 AM |
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you claimed it was his own fault |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 10:49 AM |
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I never claimed it was his OWN fault. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:56 AM |
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"At any point in the process, Mr. Driver..." |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 10:59 AM |
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Yes....we all have the power to change outcomes. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:02 AM |
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i guess he wanted to die, then... |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:10 AM |
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Maybe using your's....certainly not mine. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:17 AM |
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they're your words |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:34 AM |
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We'll agree to disagree on that. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:37 AM |
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here is the link... |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:48 AM |
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That is not true. He might have not shoplifted in the first place |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 10:34 AM |
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You bring up a good point NSMA.... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:39 AM |
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Actually, this story was in LBN over a week ago |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 10:46 AM |
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Do you practice law in the state of Texas? |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 10:48 AM |
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I doubt petty theft is considered felonious in even Texas |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 11:04 AM |
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does that mean |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 11:13 AM |
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He might know Texas law, but there is a huge difference between |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 11:17 AM |
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This "Texas law" I hear about, why so different from the rest of US? |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 11:23 AM |
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And neither do I, which is why I said in post #82... |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:32 AM |
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Do you do anything on here other than bitch out posters? |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 11:36 AM |
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I appreciate the concern. |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:38 AM |
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Chicken soup and bedrest for you. |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 11:39 AM |
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Thanks, Bluebear. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Aug-21-05 11:44 AM |
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Six year olds shot for stealing a Snickers. |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:23 PM |
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A witness has a totally different story for police from the store manager' |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-21-05 11:57 AM |
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thanks for the LINKS - good info n/t |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 12:17 PM |
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Actually that's not true. Trying to tell them he was going to die |
lostnfound |
Aug-21-05 10:41 AM |
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how do you know? |
bpilgrim |
Aug-21-05 10:46 AM |
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I used to live in Spring Tx, i know right where that Wal-mart and it |
chimpsrsmarter |
Aug-21-05 08:39 AM |
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Me too. Used to live in Atascocita |
Don Claybrook |
Aug-21-05 08:49 AM |
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This fall a movie version of "Oliver Twist" is to be released. |
scarletlib |
Aug-21-05 08:40 AM |
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Murder. |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-21-05 08:47 AM |
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Will Wal-Mart give these jerks a medal |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Aug-21-05 08:55 AM |
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I'd like toi think Wal-Mart's asset protection bonus would be offset |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:28 PM |
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I would say Man Slaughter charges, at least, are in order here. |
RC |
Aug-21-05 08:57 AM |
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This REALLY pisses me off! |
Clintmax |
Aug-21-05 08:58 AM |
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This is so sad and the Walmart folks so wrong. |
merh |
Aug-21-05 09:18 AM |
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Bastards! I hope that with a witness from such a prominent law firm |
mcscajun |
Aug-21-05 09:38 AM |
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Fabulous logo!! |
JNelson6563 |
Aug-21-05 09:45 AM |
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Hmmm...perhaps I'll do that. |
mcscajun |
Aug-21-05 10:10 AM |
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Good for you and a GREAT pic! |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-21-05 09:51 AM |
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You may as well...your post helped me get there. |
mcscajun |
Aug-21-05 10:09 AM |
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Why do these freaks have to touch anybody? Why not surround him with |
buddysmellgood |
Aug-21-05 09:47 AM |
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'Cause that would be common sense. |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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Walmart |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 09:52 AM |
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Welcome to DU philboy... |
GloriaSmith |
Aug-21-05 10:05 AM |
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Thank you Gloria |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 10:11 AM |
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You're doing just fine. My biggest recommendation... |
GloriaSmith |
Aug-21-05 10:19 AM |
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thanks Gloria, i will check out the lounge n/t |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 10:24 AM |
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Welcome to DU! |
mcscajun |
Aug-21-05 10:11 AM |
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Thank you |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 10:23 AM |
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Follow the Leader. |
Blue State Native |
Aug-21-05 10:32 AM |
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thanks blue state.... |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 10:37 AM |
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I'm not drooling yet, however, there's still three years to go. |
Blue State Native |
Aug-21-05 10:51 AM |
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Welcome to DU! We all are beleiving that the sountry ahs lost |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:33 PM |
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disgusting , as if we needed another reason to hate Wall Mart |
JI7 |
Aug-21-05 09:54 AM |
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thugs |
Solly Mack |
Aug-21-05 10:01 AM |
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This is murder |
Lithos |
Aug-21-05 10:14 AM |
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Exactly. He was murdered over a 5.00- 10.00 pack of freaking diapers. |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 10:47 AM |
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don't be too sure |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 10:58 AM |
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B.S. |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 11:06 AM |
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LMAO! |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 11:15 AM |
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And your laughing at??? |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 11:42 AM |
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Easy |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 12:57 PM |
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if you're unable to see 2 sides of an argument |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:27 AM |
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I think once the handcuffs were applied they should've let him up. |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 11:31 AM |
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this discussion is intellectually dishonest since he had a GUN |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:36 AM |
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The eyewitness didn't see anything but the sunglasses in parking lot. |
Lars39 |
Aug-21-05 11:50 AM |
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Once handcuffed, with gun, |
XanaDUer |
Aug-21-05 12:06 PM |
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Read post # 67, the guy was not armed. n/t |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 12:28 PM |
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It was a bag of diapers. Period. |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 11:39 AM |
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"Parked patrol car." Many retailers hire actual off-duty policemen. |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:38 PM |
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If my minimum wage job required me to do that, I'd look for a |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:36 PM |
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At a minimum, it's wrongful death |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 11:10 AM |
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Hope this takes a big chunk out of Wal-mart... |
Copperred |
Aug-21-05 10:21 AM |
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It won't. |
smbolisnch |
Aug-21-05 10:24 AM |
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Bigger Than PowerBall |
ThomWV |
Aug-21-05 10:43 AM |
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People are starting to crack, and I fear that things are only going to get |
converted_democrat |
Aug-21-05 10:25 AM |
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delete |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 10:31 AM |
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Being on hot pavement won't kill you... this is a wierd story. |
progressivebydesign |
Aug-21-05 11:19 AM |
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From an eyewitness: |
Lars39 |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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I think they should outlaw the subduing of shoplifters by untrained emp. |
progressivebydesign |
Aug-21-05 11:24 AM |
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More likely the chokehold rather than the pavement. |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 11:21 AM |
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He wasn't just lying on the pavement. Didn't you read it? |
lizzy |
Aug-21-05 11:22 AM |
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Ever hear of heat stroke? |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Aug-21-05 11:24 AM |
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Just being face down with arms pinned behind can kill someone.. |
mackdaddy |
Aug-21-05 11:31 AM |
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That's so disgusting |
FreedomAngel82 |
Aug-21-05 11:24 AM |
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A perspective seems necessary here. If it is OK to pin a man down... |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-21-05 11:27 AM |
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the man had just shoplifted a damn gun |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:32 AM |
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Yeah, a lethal BB gun |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 11:38 AM |
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I stand corrected, the man stole a BB Gun and some BB's as well |
rasputin1952 |
Aug-21-05 11:51 AM |
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Have you ever seen a crackhead? Food and muscle seldom |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:44 PM |
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Bravo! Excellent point of view. nt |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 12:42 PM |
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This might be a first, a manslaughter indictment against employees in Texa |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-21-05 11:36 AM |
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don't worry abt it, he stole a gun |
pitohui |
Aug-21-05 11:40 AM |
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It was a BB gun, does that not compute. |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 11:44 AM |
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And eyewitness didn't see anything but sunglasses. |
Lars39 |
Aug-21-05 11:52 AM |
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I've never shoplifted so much as a peanut, BUT... |
SmokingJacket |
Aug-21-05 11:54 AM |
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i hope the victim's family |
shanti |
Aug-21-05 12:08 PM |
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Here's the thread mentioned by nsma. Much more info. available here: |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-21-05 12:18 PM |
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Holy s**t; the story you quoted says they had him kneed while |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 01:29 PM |
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He had switched price tags - not shoplifted (I live in Houston) |
World Traveller |
Aug-21-05 12:47 PM |
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This is not a first for Wal-Mart |
Bmongilly |
Aug-21-05 12:50 PM |
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I'm fed up...fuck Walmart |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 12:57 PM |
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Not to mention the fact that he was begging for his life. |
geomon666 |
Aug-21-05 01:03 PM |
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and I will tell ya something else... |
philboy |
Aug-21-05 01:03 PM |
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Stupid things just keeep on piling on one on top of each other |
sakabatou |
Aug-21-05 01:13 PM |
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Aug-21-05 01:35 PM |
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Word of advice--read through a trhead before commenting. |
blondeatlast |
Aug-21-05 01:41 PM |
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Aug-21-05 01:47 PM |
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Locking... |
Moderator |
Aug-21-05 01:56 PM |
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