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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. ethically, the answer is pretty easy
Because you would have knowledge that they created an invasion and occupation based on a lie; that they would not hesitate to lie for a temporary gain or victory; that they will continue to lie, cheat, and worse, you could not be permitted to defend them, knowing that they would continue such behavior in their own defense.

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  -If You Were A Lawyer, Could You Defend Someone You KNEW Was Guilty? arwalden  Aug-14-05 09:49 AM   #0 
  - Would depend.....  Waya   Aug-14-05 09:51 AM   #1 
  - yes, it would depend on the law and the reason behind the violation  Mairead   Aug-14-05 11:14 AM   #41 
  - Yes. Would of course "care" but that's not the point.  JanMichael   Aug-14-05 09:52 AM   #2 
  - If you were a public defender, perhaps. but if you ran a  expatriot   Aug-14-05 09:54 AM   #3 
  - One of your duties is to protect your client from bad prosecution  antifaschits   Aug-14-05 10:06 AM   #13 
     - In that case (pardon the pun), your client wouldn't be guilty of a crime.  expatriot   Aug-14-05 10:16 AM   #20 
        - in several states underage sex is  antifaschits   Aug-14-05 10:28 AM   #28 
           - I'll admit my ignorance here....  expatriot   Aug-14-05 10:34 AM   #30 
              - I admit I took an extreme and difficult example,  antifaschits   Aug-14-05 10:50 AM   #33 
  - Yes, of course  yankeedem   Aug-14-05 09:55 AM   #4 
  - I am not a law student, but I know that witnesses take that oath  expatriot   Aug-14-05 10:05 AM   #12 
     - Unfortunately, that is the price for our rights  yankeedem   Aug-14-05 10:11 AM   #17 
     - hey,maybe that is the out here....  expatriot   Aug-14-05 10:21 AM   #24 
     - KNEW he was guilty? Or felt he was guilty?  mondo joe   Aug-14-05 10:22 AM   #25 
     - That's not how it works  SW FL Dem   Aug-14-05 11:14 AM   #40 
     - One philosophy that I have seen  hyphenate   Aug-14-05 11:16 AM   #42 
  - Yes  Independent_Liberal   Aug-14-05 09:55 AM   #5 
  - I voted "NO"  Canadian_moderate   Aug-14-05 09:57 AM   #6 
  - There have been numerous examples  DefenseLawyer   Aug-14-05 10:42 AM   #31 
  - It would depend on what the offense was  htuttle   Aug-14-05 10:02 AM   #7 
  - Don't equate defending your client with being unethical  DefenseLawyer   Aug-14-05 11:03 AM   #36 
     - I wouldn't disagree with that  htuttle   Aug-14-05 11:08 AM   #37 
  - Money dictates! Our economy is run by politicians in disguise.  0007   Aug-14-05 10:02 AM   #8 
  - No, if I "KNEW" he or she was guilty, then there's no way I could do it.  mtnsnake   Aug-14-05 10:02 AM   #9 
  - It's a prosecutor's job  Another Bill C.   Aug-14-05 10:03 AM   #10 
  - No. That's why I'm not a lawyer.  Gormy Cuss   Aug-14-05 10:04 AM   #11 
  - I almost said that too.  expatriot   Aug-14-05 10:11 AM   #16 
  - Yes, I would in general. There are some I wouldn't defend because of my  mondo joe   Aug-14-05 10:07 AM   #14 
  - Would you defend George W. Bush?  Canadian_moderate   Aug-14-05 10:09 AM   #15 
     - I already said I probably wouldn't defend a fundy. But I would say he  mondo joe   Aug-14-05 10:12 AM   #18 
     - My apologies  Canadian_moderate   Aug-14-05 10:17 AM   #21 
        - No problem. But the point remains: being a defense attorney doesn't mean  mondo joe   Aug-14-05 10:19 AM   #22 
     - The enemy of all mankind? *  oddtext   Aug-14-05 10:29 AM   #29 
     - If I were a criminal defense lawyer, would I defend GWB. Hell yes.  merh   Aug-14-05 10:58 AM   #35 
  - I've talked with lawyers about this over the years...  punpirate   Aug-14-05 10:14 AM   #19 
  - I would never hire any of the attorneys you have spoken to.  merh   Aug-14-05 11:10 AM   #38 
     - The flip side of your assertions is that an attorney...  punpirate   Aug-14-05 12:05 PM   #45 
        - As Mr. Starr points out - most criminal defense lawyers make  merh   Aug-14-05 12:26 PM   #47 
  - Yes - been running through scenarios and the bottomline is Yes  Solly Mack   Aug-14-05 10:21 AM   #23 
  - A good defenseattorney goes out of their way to insure  Walt Starr   Aug-14-05 10:23 AM   #26 
  - I am a Public Defender  oddtext   Aug-14-05 10:25 AM   #27 
  - Yes, a criminal defense lawyer's job it to protect the constitutional  merh   Aug-14-05 10:46 AM   #32 
  - precisely  antifaschits   Aug-14-05 10:57 AM   #34 
     - Actually, civil cases such as the ones you mention would present a  merh   Aug-14-05 11:22 AM   #44 
  - It's one of those situations where the legal system is less  hyphenate   Aug-14-05 11:11 AM   #39 
  - If your answer is a flat-out 'No' then you probably  meganmonkey   Aug-14-05 11:16 AM   #43 
  - Duh, the burden of proof is on THE STATE  Proud2BAmurkin   Aug-14-05 12:10 PM   #46 
  - Selectively.  Xap   Aug-14-05 12:33 PM   #48 
     - ethically, the answer is pretty easy  antifaschits   Aug-14-05 02:08 PM   #49 

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