Reply #121: That's the point. Big L, little l, has been factioned, and incoherent...

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for decades. It is a term that has been splintered out to so many different ideologies by those who claim to be libertarians or Libertarians, that there is no meaning left in the word.

You can't blame the rest of us for not understanding a term that doesn't make any sense, and has no definable meaning anymore. BTW: what you just described is called LIBERALISM, not libertarianism. Just one more example of the libertarians trying to co-opt evvery POV out there so they can claim to everybody they meet..."Suprise! You're a libertarian!" Ridiculous stealth tactics.

Want someone to blame for this? Blame Ayn Rand, not us.