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Response to Reply #73
78. Thank you, and I would add that
from what I've seen about her and of her on the media,
there is a greater emphasis on her arguments than on
her emotions. The identifiers name her role as grieving
mother, but that is the identifier that got her on TV to
make her arguments in the first place. Sooner or later
anybody watching TV (with an open mind and heart) is going
to hear her speak and realize that she is much more than
simply a woman in pain. Of course, it is her pain that
drives her to want to stop the war so that other loved
ones don't have to go through what she's going through.
Compassion for others is born of personal suffering. Her
pain is at the heart of the story and of her message of
trying to stop others' pain before it starts.
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  -Rosa Parks And This Whole Bus Boycott Aren't Going To Change Anything! DistressedAmerican  Aug-12-05 12:27 PM   #0 
  - Excellent!  BrklynLiberal   Aug-12-05 12:28 PM   #1 
  - thanks for this!  villager   Aug-12-05 12:29 PM   #2 
  - Hammer... Nail... BANG!  benburch   Aug-12-05 12:30 PM   #3 
  - Recommended and Kicked!! nt  Patchuli   Aug-12-05 12:30 PM   #4 
  - BRAVO!  ocelot   Aug-12-05 12:31 PM   #5 
  - Nominated. (nt)  ih8thegop   Aug-12-05 12:31 PM   #6 
  - LOL! Bravo!  havocmom   Aug-12-05 12:31 PM   #7 
  - Kick!  nookiemonster   Aug-12-05 12:32 PM   #8 
  - Yep, good job  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-12-05 12:32 PM   #9 
  - For those who only follow, it is difficult to understand the power of ...  understandinglife   Aug-12-05 12:36 PM   #10 
  - BAM!  Hardhead   Aug-12-05 12:36 PM   #11 
  - I'm not sure this is quite a bellweather moment as Ms. Parks had..  JackDragna   Aug-12-05 12:39 PM   #12 
  - JD: It's about more than just making Bush squirm...  ultraist   Aug-12-05 12:43 PM   #13 
  - I think this just me be THE bellweather moment for the anti-war movement  meganmonkey   Aug-12-05 12:57 PM   #23 
  - Yippee-ka-yay. Smoke 'em out. eom  tsuki   Aug-12-05 12:43 PM   #14 
  - i suggest we stop discussing sheehan's "pain" and  clover   Aug-12-05 12:45 PM   #15 
  - great post..."emotional pornograph" is equivalent to the TORTURE  Gabi Hayes   Aug-12-05 12:51 PM   #18 
  - Is There Something About This Post That You Do Not Get?  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 12:51 PM   #19 
  - this post defines "emotional pornography"  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 12:57 PM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-05 12:58 PM   #24 
  - is using reason to support an argument vs. throwing out played-out  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 12:59 PM   #26 
     - GRIEF...  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:00 PM   #27 
        - see post #30 n/t  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:03 PM   #31 
  - We must NEVER deny the pain, grief and suffering that WAR causes  ultraist   Aug-12-05 01:01 PM   #28 
  - no, but we also must not overplay the pain and suffering of one person  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:02 PM   #30 
  - Let Me Make This Crystal Clear To You.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:06 PM   #32 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-05 01:14 PM   #35 
        - And Everyone Here That Agrees With Me.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:15 PM   #36 
        - are they paralyzed from the waist up? can they not type for themselves?  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:17 PM   #39 
        - Read The thread And Look At The Nominations. Plenty Of Typing.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:19 PM   #42 
           - they haven't responded to any of my posts. what is this, a popularity  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:21 PM   #43 
              - .  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:22 PM   #44 
                 - i've made my point, and you've never refuted it. so i guess that you  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:23 PM   #46 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-13-05 09:37 AM   #141 
                 - you usually kick these yourself  Zuni   Aug-12-05 01:27 PM   #48 
                    - Kick  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 05:20 PM   #127 
                    - Another...  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 08:50 PM   #131 
                    - Hmmm. Maybe One More  DistressedAmerican   Aug-13-05 11:18 AM   #142 
        - Yeah, I'm one who agrees with you  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 01:39 PM   #60 
           - yes, Eloriel, it's always about repressing women, you're right  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:43 PM   #70 
              - Oh, I see you don't want to deal with the issues. You complained  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 01:55 PM   #77 
              - no, i complain that you say that it is 2 issues, and that it's always  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:02 PM   #81 
                 - Well, I just responded to your post explaining (finally) your thinking  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 02:09 PM   #86 
                 - got it, thanks. i support Cindy, have since the beginning. maybe it's  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:10 PM   #87 
                    - Maybe you should stop echoing Limbaugh, then.  Zhade   Aug-12-05 02:26 PM   #96 
                       - if Bush speaks the truth about something, does it make it a lie because  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:28 PM   #98 
                          - I'm not comparing you to Limbaugh, so please don't get histrionic on me.  Zhade   Aug-12-05 02:42 PM   #105 
                 - OK, I'll Play. Here Is Why You Are DEAD WRONG On This Issue.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:16 PM   #91 
                    - show me anyone who has been converted  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:21 PM   #93 
                       - So, You Have No One to Point To?  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:30 PM   #99 
                          - how do you know he hasn't always been a lefty?  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:32 PM   #102 
                             - Wrong. I Have Showed Them To You, Here Are Some More.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:42 PM   #106 
                                - Here's One From The Logic Only Camp. Maybe He Agrees?  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:51 PM   #108 
              - Just go away. Stick a fork in ya - you're done!  TankLV   Aug-13-05 12:01 PM   #145 
        - Putting a human face on the DEATH and DESTRUCTION of war...  ultraist   Aug-12-05 01:16 PM   #38 
           - putting her face on it is one thing. whoring her face around the media  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:18 PM   #41 
              - WTF? "Whoring her face around the media"  ultraist   Aug-12-05 01:23 PM   #45 
              - nope, i think that they should show pictures of her. pictures of her  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:27 PM   #47 
                 - "you're not going to reach them by emotional appeals, but rather by fact"  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:29 PM   #50 
                 - emotional appeals to anyone, including freepers, will always fail  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:33 PM   #53 
                    - Your title is so preposterous it should win a prize.  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:38 PM   #58 
                    - in what way? would you care to elaborate?  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:40 PM   #63 
                       - To say "emotional appeals ... always fail" is a sign of madness  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:42 PM   #68 
                          - thanks, that was a good reply.  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:46 PM   #73 
                             - Thank you, and I would add that  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:55 PM   #78 
                    - You are dead wrong -- on at least 2 counts  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 02:03 PM   #82 
                    - 1. i wasn't taking issue with the ones that were appropriate  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:12 PM   #88 
                    - I might add that no advertising or arguments win or even connect unless  TankLV   Aug-13-05 12:06 PM   #146 
                    - Emotional appeals will work with people like my mother who...  I Have A Dream   Aug-13-05 12:07 PM   #147 
                 - Cindy has chosen to share her grief publicly  ultraist   Aug-12-05 01:32 PM   #52 
                 - so let her show it, it doesn't need to be sensationalized by others  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:34 PM   #54 
                 - Is she complaining about it?  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:40 PM   #64 
                    - i feel for her cause, and think that it should be transmitted to the  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:42 PM   #69 
                       - What do you mean "your side"?  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 01:45 PM   #72 
                          - i typed that quickly; "your side" is meant to mean either the  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:48 PM   #74 
                             - OK, just checking, I have no idea what your politics are.  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 02:03 PM   #83 
                                - i agree. i'm more of the "it will be a thousand small lies that kill the  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:07 PM   #85 
                                - OMG. What a wonderful sentence!!  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 02:16 PM   #90 
                                - oops delete wrong place  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 02:27 PM   #97 
                                - Thanks. I think the next thing to look for is the rats  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-12-05 02:30 PM   #100 
                 - that's what i've seen posted here, and this is my first stop for daily  clover   Aug-12-05 01:50 PM   #76 
                 - You think showing a mother's grief is exploitive?  Zhade   Aug-12-05 01:37 PM   #57 
                    - no, sensationalizing her grief is exploitive  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:38 PM   #59 
                    - Well, if I thought that was what was happening, I'd agree with you.  Zhade   Aug-12-05 01:42 PM   #66 
                    - fair enough, that's reasonable  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 01:49 PM   #75 
                    - StopTheMorans, you're overanalyzing a spontaneous outpouring  Autonomy   Aug-12-05 02:05 PM   #84 
                       - "a human face" and "exploiting a human face" are two very different things  StopTheMorans   Aug-12-05 02:24 PM   #94 
                    - Stop Typing For Yourself!  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:39 PM   #62 
                       - I can't, it's an obsession.  Zhade   Aug-12-05 01:41 PM   #65 
              - See, I will jump in with this...if Cindy had been a man, would you have  mtnester   Aug-12-05 05:31 PM   #128 
  - Exactly.  H2O Man   Aug-12-05 05:38 PM   #129 
  - I think that many people who have thus far been unreachable..  I Have A Dream   Aug-13-05 11:50 AM   #144 
  - BUT even *** acknowledges her grief! although he chuckled  clover   Aug-12-05 01:06 PM   #33 
     - Her Grief Was A Catalyst For Me. Too Bad Not For You...  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 01:12 PM   #34 
        - please provide more than a title, please expand your response  clover   Aug-12-05 01:15 PM   #37 
  - I don't think I agree with you  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 01:31 PM   #51 
     - Well said, Eloriel!  ultraist   Aug-12-05 01:39 PM   #61 
     - cindy will say what she wants to say, thank God, and until she says  clover   Aug-12-05 01:57 PM   #79 
     - It's not either/or  Eloriel   Aug-12-05 02:34 PM   #103 
        - thank you for your thoughtful response; it helps me to figure this out  clover   Aug-12-05 02:51 PM   #109 
     - "I have to try to stop this war and also grieve my son every single day."  clover   Aug-12-05 02:36 PM   #104 
  - HAHAHAHAHA diet coke on keyboard.  KyndCulture   Aug-12-05 12:48 PM   #16 
  - You said it all! Kicked and recommended for the greatest! n/t  Stand and Fight   Aug-12-05 12:48 PM   #17 
  - Right outta the park, buddy!  dxstone   Aug-12-05 12:52 PM   #20 
  - Here's a link for ya...  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 12:57 PM   #22 
  - INDEED!  dxstone   Aug-12-05 03:08 PM   #112 
     - ps: Sure are a lotta hair-splitters here today!  dxstone   Aug-12-05 03:10 PM   #113 
  - He thinks he is the effin' king of the entire world....  BrklynLiberal   Aug-12-05 03:57 PM   #121 
     - YOU WILL NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT, YOU AWOL LYING SACK OF SHIT!  TankLV   Aug-13-05 12:13 PM   #149 
  - correct as usual, sir.  mopinko   Aug-12-05 12:58 PM   #25 
  - ok here is my take...  madrchsod   Aug-12-05 01:01 PM   #29 
  - was rosa parks' pain the focus of her media coverage, was it the  clover   Aug-12-05 01:36 PM   #56 
     - PS: your satirical piece at the top of this thread is good, and  clover   Aug-12-05 01:44 PM   #71 
        - See Post 91  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:18 PM   #92 
           - yes sir, i followed your instructions to see post 91,but who said  clover   Aug-12-05 02:24 PM   #95 
              - Would You Mind Explaining Why BOTH Can Not Work In Concert?  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 02:46 PM   #107 
                 - of course they can! but when you are in a highly emotional state  clover   Aug-12-05 03:06 PM   #111 
  - !!!  Opposite Reaction   Aug-12-05 01:17 PM   #40 
  - One small correction: Montgomery NOT Birmingham  phatkatt   Aug-12-05 01:29 PM   #49 
  - good one, got the message n/t  idlisambar   Aug-12-05 01:35 PM   #55 
  - learned helplessness  marions ghost   Aug-12-05 01:42 PM   #67 
  - Thank you.  H2O Man   Aug-12-05 01:58 PM   #80 
  - NICE! / I thought at first "who kidnapped DA"...  corkhead   Aug-12-05 02:16 PM   #89 
  - "I like your new sigline pic better than the pirate flag."  clover   Aug-12-05 03:13 PM   #114 
     - Just an observation for my eyes primarily. Lighten up a bit.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 03:17 PM   #115 
     - i have students in iraq, hard to lighten up today: BTW jeff gannon says  clover   Aug-12-05 03:23 PM   #116 
        - Anytime!  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 03:28 PM   #117 
           - i got the gannon link from the DU board, so his audience might  clover   Aug-12-05 03:33 PM   #118 
              - Plenty Of Ditractors Too.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 03:42 PM   #119 
                 - yes, you are the man. sorry i'm not as popular or limber at the keyboard  clover   Aug-12-05 03:47 PM   #120 
                 - Why Do I Get The Feeling You Are Being Snarky Here?  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 04:18 PM   #125 
                 - yeah, like me, you spelled "ditractors" wrong!  corkhead   Aug-12-05 04:10 PM   #123 
     - I was just trying to be efficient  corkhead   Aug-12-05 04:06 PM   #122 
  - One awesome post. Thanks (n/t)  confludemocrat   Aug-12-05 02:31 PM   #101 
  - One hell of a TERRIFIC post! Recommended  Tinoire   Aug-12-05 03:05 PM   #110 
  - What specific analogy are you trying to make?  the other one   Aug-12-05 04:13 PM   #124 
  - Well, That's A Shame For You. Fortunately There Are Plenty That Disagree.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 04:25 PM   #126 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-13-05 12:19 PM   #150 
  - Oh, so very, very well played!  Kurovski   Aug-12-05 06:32 PM   #130 
  - I'm a naysayer, but not in regards to Cindy Sheehan  Used and Abused   Aug-12-05 08:56 PM   #132 
  - Yes, this COULD be a bell weather moment  GoneOffShore   Aug-12-05 09:07 PM   #133 
  - Don't Believe It! This Is Anti-War All The Way. Just Watch.  DistressedAmerican   Aug-12-05 09:10 PM   #134 
  - You hit that nail  tavalon   Aug-12-05 09:54 PM   #135 
  - Rosa Parks and Mrs. King called Cindy today  Kire   Aug-13-05 03:30 AM   #136 
  - Freaking Awesome!!!  DistressedAmerican   Aug-13-05 06:06 AM   #139 
  - Well done! You put a big smile on my face  Hekate   Aug-13-05 04:08 AM   #137 
  - junior the real killer of life.  0007   Aug-13-05 04:58 AM   #138 
  - The excuse for segregation is..  ananda   Aug-13-05 08:44 AM   #140 
  - As usual, DistressedAmerican, you have clarity of vision that...  I Have A Dream   Aug-13-05 11:43 AM   #143 
  - Never damn surrender! NEVER!  lonestarnot   Aug-13-05 12:08 PM   #148 
  - Again!  Bluebear   Aug-14-05 05:09 PM   #151 
 

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