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25. "Dear Cindy: I might have fucked things up in 2000."
"If I hadn't been so busy arguing that there wasn't any difference between democrats and republicans, I might have noticed that Bush really was as crazy conservative sociopathic chickenhawk lying sack of shit all my liberal and democratic friends said he was.

"If I had thought things through, I would have had the foresight to throw my weight behind the lesser of two evils, given that the greater of the two evils got your son killed.

"If I had thought things through, both you and I would have a president that would actually listen to us.

"But now all I can do is advise you on what to say if you ever get the president's ear, because I don't think things through and can't tell what a total crock of shit it is that I send messages through some dead vet's mom because indulging my own political ambition, ironically, put me and everything I believe in about a million miles from any political power."

Sorry, again, good luck
Ralph.
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  -An Open Letter from Ralph Nader to Cindy Sheehan sabra  Aug-10-05 05:25 PM   #0 
  - Way to step up, Mr. Nader!  fooj   Aug-10-05 05:28 PM   #1 
  - "If Hitler had invaded hell  wicasa   Aug-10-05 07:12 PM   #103 
  - F*ck Ralph Nader  guntherconcept   Aug-10-05 05:28 PM   #2 
  - Ya beat me to it.  ronnykmarshall   Aug-10-05 05:30 PM   #6 
  - "never has one once?" eh?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:38 PM   #21 
     - Hate to ditto but F*@CK YOU Nader  puerco-bellies   Aug-10-05 06:09 PM   #55 
  - Eh  wtmusic   Aug-10-05 05:32 PM   #9 
  - Look at all the Nader votes in Florida in 2000, think they'd have  rzemanfl   Aug-10-05 05:35 PM   #14 
  - coulda woulda shoulda  wtmusic   Aug-10-05 05:37 PM   #16 
  - Only douchebag Nader, professional kibutzer,  Inland   Aug-10-05 05:48 PM   #37 
  - "Open letters" are bullshit. He should have written her and let  rzemanfl   Aug-10-05 06:12 PM   #61 
  - Those votes could be sham too  marekjed   Aug-10-05 05:47 PM   #35 
  - And then there is Patrick Buchanan and all the military ballots  rzemanfl   Aug-10-05 06:09 PM   #54 
  - Actually, according to Al From and the DLC, the answer is YES.  MadHound   Aug-11-05 09:11 AM   #136 
  - I'd rather have someone who would "make you fall asleep in  Blue State Native   Aug-11-05 09:18 AM   #137 
  - sad to say but I agree....didn't he take GOP money, too?  MnFats   Aug-10-05 05:34 PM   #11 
  - Yes he did  FreedomAngel82   Aug-10-05 07:23 PM   #109 
  - blah, blah, blah - still beating that dead horse?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:37 PM   #18 
  - LOL And Tennessee has more EC votes then Flordia?  FreedomAngel82   Aug-10-05 07:24 PM   #110 
  - Ralph Nader is a great American  danalytical   Aug-10-05 05:40 PM   #24 
  - yeah, he's the problem....BURN HIMMMMMMMMMM  burythehatchet   Aug-10-05 05:55 PM   #42 
  - If cows could really fly ...  TahitiNut   Aug-10-05 06:14 PM   #62 
  - Hi my friend!  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 06:30 PM   #77 
     - Nothing would make me happier than to march and nosh with you and Karen.  TahitiNut   Aug-10-05 06:35 PM   #83 
        - We miss you too!  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 07:06 PM   #99 
  - Well, my two cents says  Geoff R. Casavant   Aug-10-05 06:20 PM   #69 
  - Uh, the election, both of them were STOLEN!  katinmn   Aug-10-05 06:28 PM   #75 
  - Oh really? Any Dem who does not send Mrs. Sheehan  mandyky   Aug-10-05 06:38 PM   #88 
  - That election was stolen-however, I get your point.  NoSheep   Aug-10-05 06:39 PM   #91 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-10-05 06:51 PM   #95 
  - Emmm  helderheid   Aug-10-05 07:00 PM   #98 
  - Perfectly stated!  question everything   Aug-10-05 08:00 PM   #121 
  - Kick ass post of the day!!!!! Thank you soooooo much!  journalist3072   Aug-10-05 08:09 PM   #122 
  - Great stuff from a guy who helped shrub get selected.  louis-t   Aug-10-05 05:29 PM   #3 
  - Although a part of me really wants to throttle Ralph,  nookiemonster   Aug-10-05 05:29 PM   #4 
  - Cut the shit  shadowknows69   Aug-10-05 05:37 PM   #17 
     - "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"  nookiemonster   Aug-10-05 05:46 PM   #33 
  - Who frigging cares what Nader thinks?  sellitman   Aug-10-05 05:30 PM   #5 
  - Thanks Sabra. He's not popular to many here, but this was a good letter  GreenPartyVoter   Aug-10-05 05:30 PM   #7 
  - Kudos to Nader! & Recommended so Dems use as an example  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 05:32 PM   #8 
  - As usual, Tinoire, I'm proud to stand with Nader and you  Don Claybrook   Aug-10-05 06:02 PM   #46 
     - Breath of fresh air to see you in this murky Nader-hating swamp.  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 06:23 PM   #72 
  - Great letter, but a day late and a dollar short.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-10-05 05:33 PM   #10 
  - This is so eloquently sad coming from Nader  Generic Other   Aug-10-05 05:34 PM   #12 
  - Dear Cindy,  TlalocW   Aug-10-05 05:35 PM   #13 
  - Now THERE is an eloquent letter. Well said, TlalocW.  enough   Aug-10-05 05:39 PM   #22 
  - Beat me to it, see #25  Inland   Aug-10-05 05:43 PM   #26 
  - Are the IWR Democrats sorry too?  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 05:43 PM   #28 
  - if you're going to be like that, here's another  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:46 PM   #32 
  - ...you forgot to mention,  dweller   Aug-10-05 05:49 PM   # 
  - will never forgive Ralph..  trekbiker   Aug-10-05 05:47 PM   #36 
  - And just think, without Clinton Gore's NAFTA, WTO, Welfare Reform,  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 06:09 PM   #57 
  - That sums it up.  BiggJawn   Aug-11-05 09:38 AM   #138 
  - Sad. Even Cindy Sheehan can't heal the rift here...  dweller   Aug-10-05 05:36 PM   #15 
  - Awesome letter, who cares if Nader wrote it.  ultraist   Aug-10-05 05:38 PM   #19 
  - Whoa! Even Ralphies had enough of the Murderers crap!  Mr_Spock   Aug-10-05 05:38 PM   #20 
  - sad bunch of motherfuckers  ulysses   Aug-10-05 05:39 PM   #23 
  - "Dear Cindy: I might have fucked things up in 2000."  Inland   Aug-10-05 05:42 PM   #25 
  - if you blame ralph for 2000, then you have to hate moore, garofalo,  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:43 PM   #27 
  - Fuck them too.  Inland   Aug-10-05 05:46 PM   #31 
  - and you forsaw september 11th in your crystal ball then?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:51 PM   #39 
  - No, but unlike Nader, I don't think Gore would have ignored the memo  Inland   Aug-10-05 05:58 PM   #45 
  - i'm proud of my vote  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:06 PM   #51 
     - So go tell Cindy. It'll be a gas.  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:17 PM   #64 
        - a democratic senate, including john kerry, voted for the war  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:24 PM   #73 
        - Ralph opposed it after making Bush president  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:37 PM   #86 
        - The Nader voters will never admit they screwed up.  sellitman   Aug-10-05 07:21 PM   #108 
        - Senators voted for war based on Bush/Cheney cherry picked Intel  Imagevision   Aug-11-05 09:47 AM   #139 
        - ouch...twisted thought just crossed my mind.  dweller   Aug-10-05 06:32 PM   #81 
  - anyone could see that  trekbiker   Aug-10-05 06:02 PM   #47 
  - gore and clinton did more damage to the environment than reagan  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:08 PM   #53 
     - Reagan opened up more federal land  trekbiker   Aug-10-05 06:21 PM   #70 
        - a drop in thebucket when u realize the damage they can do now  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:28 PM   #74 
           - What complete and utter crap.  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:33 PM   #82 
  - Glaringly perceptive  EST   Aug-10-05 07:48 PM   #117 
  - I'm going to have to look for more of your posts.  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 08:25 PM   #126 
  - They didn't? Well,some news for you. Gore won the popular vote by 540,000  TruthIsAll   Aug-10-05 06:06 PM   #50 
  - Oh, so fuck Nader and all of them for making it close enough to steal  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:11 PM   #60 
     - you still fail to consider why people voted for nader  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:17 PM   #65 
        - Same reason why peolpe voted for Bush.  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:28 PM   #76 
           - hindsight is always 20/20  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:36 PM   #85 
              - So use hindsight and apologize, first.  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:42 PM   #93 
  - Gore won the popular vote by 540,000. Remember?  TruthIsAll   Aug-10-05 06:10 PM   #58 
  - Well, you're talking to Democrats not for Democracy  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 05:52 PM   #40 
     - Noooooo.....  Inland   Aug-10-05 06:07 PM   #52 
     - he actually said there is no difference  noiretblu   Aug-10-05 07:19 PM   #107 
     - People voted for Nader  Puregonzo1188   Aug-10-05 10:52 PM   #129 
        - Excellent post!  Tinoire   Aug-11-05 03:03 AM   #131 
        - How can both be possible? Because one vote gets added to another  Inland   Aug-11-05 12:40 PM   #140 
     - Amen, m'luv!  TahitiNut   Aug-10-05 06:18 PM   #66 
     - Especially when you live in a glass house and are throwing stones  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 07:09 PM   #101 
     - that's D.A.D.  noiretblu   Aug-10-05 06:55 PM   #96 
        - The same chapter that's pushing me straight out of the Democratic  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 07:12 PM   #102 
  - That was a nice thing for Nader to do.  Independent_Liberal   Aug-10-05 05:44 PM   #29 
  - Dear Ralph  Caleb   Aug-10-05 05:44 PM   #30 
  - It cannot be denied: This is a great letter.  Enraged_Ape   Aug-10-05 05:46 PM   #34 
  - Wow I never realized...  Canadiana   Aug-10-05 05:49 PM   #38 
  - and why aren't gore and kerry voicing support for her?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 05:53 PM   #41 
  - Because they are too decent to grandstand on someone's  DURHAM D   Aug-10-05 06:05 PM   #48 
  - they can't even endorse her?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:09 PM   #56 
     - Telling me I am following the party line ...? You don't know me  DURHAM D   Aug-10-05 06:16 PM   #63 
     - so she doesn't need to be publicly supported then?  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:19 PM   #68 
        - That's rich - go back and read all of your hostile posts.  DURHAM D   Aug-10-05 06:46 PM   #94 
     - I agree  Catrina   Aug-10-05 06:39 PM   #90 
  - They have a much higher profile than that  Tactical Progressive   Aug-10-05 07:28 PM   #112 
  - Nader's letter is eloquent, right on, and great.  sunnystarr   Aug-10-05 05:57 PM   #43 
  - We can't blame 00 and 04 all on Nader. The elections were stolen  katinmn   Aug-10-05 06:31 PM   #80 
  - Nader Is Pathetic  Vinnie From Indy   Aug-10-05 05:57 PM   #44 
  - at least he notices her  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:11 PM   #59 
  - A "mission for the soul of the country." That is a beautiful phrase  ignatius 2   Aug-10-05 06:05 PM   #49 
  - Nader shares *'s guilt for all the deaths in Iraq. In 2000, I sent Nader  McCamy Taylor   Aug-10-05 06:18 PM   #67 
  - the dems voted for the war-nader didn't  Adenoid_Hynkel   Aug-10-05 06:22 PM   #71 
     - Nope. They're as pure as the driven slush. n/t  Tinoire   Aug-11-05 03:04 AM   #132 
  - Good on you, Ralph.  bvar22   Aug-10-05 06:30 PM   #78 
  - Excellent, excellent.  jhain   Aug-10-05 06:30 PM   #79 
  - Perhaps a Nader expert can clear this up for me:  H5N1   Aug-10-05 06:35 PM   #84 
  - It is an excellent letter: where are the support letters from my Dems?  H5N1   Aug-10-05 06:37 PM   #87 
     - None forthcoming. They don't want to grandstand on Bush's joy. n/t  Tinoire   Aug-11-05 03:05 AM   #133 
  - Lets ask Cindy how she feels about Nader's support.  bvar22   Aug-10-05 06:38 PM   #89 
  - she must not be a real Dem, then.  ulysses   Aug-10-05 06:40 PM   #92 
  - Yeah but Cindy can fortunately reason & is neither spineless nor stupid  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 07:07 PM   #100 
  - I think what Ralph means  Tactical Progressive   Aug-10-05 06:58 PM   #97 
  - and on it goes.  ulysses   Aug-10-05 07:14 PM   #104 
  - Well, I'm sure the Freepers will love to read this thread: the left...  Peace Patriot   Aug-10-05 07:16 PM   #105 
  - What an excellent post.  Tinoire   Aug-10-05 08:23 PM   #125 
  - Wicked awesome post! Woo-hoo!  Gay Green   Aug-10-05 10:26 PM   #128 
  - Good to see that for some people here it's entirely about supporting  Catholic Sensation   Aug-10-05 07:17 PM   #106 
  - What sublimely unadulterated gall  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-10-05 07:25 PM   #111 
  - Well, thanks for all you did to help put him there in the first place  Prisoner_Number_Six   Aug-10-05 07:31 PM   #113 
  - Does Nader write his own? This is a really excellent letter!!  patrice   Aug-10-05 07:33 PM   #114 
  - If Nader had not been such a self-serving egomaniac during the  BrklynLiberal   Aug-10-05 07:37 PM   #115 
  - Those attacking...  Q   Aug-10-05 07:47 PM   #116 
  - I'm With You nt  mirandapriestly   Aug-10-05 07:55 PM   #118 
  - I am going to agree with you  meganmonkey   Aug-10-05 07:57 PM   #119 
  - Uh, fuck Nader AND Bush.  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-10-05 07:58 PM   #120 
  - Nader has never been the issue...  Q   Aug-10-05 08:13 PM   #123 
     - There are many "issues" involved in Bush stealing the WH...  A-Schwarzenegger   Aug-10-05 08:15 PM   #124 
  - Insignificant? What the fuck?  LoZoccolo   Aug-10-05 11:36 PM   #130 
     - What about the Dems that actually voted for Bush?  Q   Aug-11-05 06:56 AM   #134 
        - Blah blah blah blah.  LoZoccolo   Aug-11-05 08:54 AM   #135 
        - Fuck them too.  Inland   Aug-11-05 07:50 PM   #141 
  - "oil marinated doors" - I like that. nt  Miss Chybil   Aug-10-05 09:02 PM   #127 
 

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