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Response to Reply #206
208. So it does. The UN did not sanction the war in Afghanistan.
Which makes it illegal. Those who voted for it, voted for an illegal war.
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  -Sorry, but I WON'T be Voting for a Pro War Democrat mopaul  Aug-01-05 05:04 AM   #0 
  - well, that'll cost the dems another election!!!  KG   Aug-01-05 05:06 AM   #1 
  - Or the Democrats *COULD* take an actual *STANCE* *AGAINST* the war...  Tesha   Aug-01-05 07:18 AM   #30 
  - And the point is?  HypnoToad   Aug-01-05 08:52 AM   #49 
  - "well, that'll cost the dems another election!!!"  bearfan454   Aug-01-05 09:37 AM   #61 
  - Or perhaps the democrats will cost themselves an election  lojasmo   Aug-01-05 04:38 PM   #149 
  - I hope you're kidding.  impeachdubya   Aug-01-05 06:37 PM   #171 
  - I won't either. n/t  d_b   Aug-01-05 05:06 AM   # 
  - I actually would, if (s)he has a anti-war one as VP.  lvx35   Aug-01-05 05:08 AM   #3 
     - Bush LIte is still better than Bush  bluestateguy   Aug-01-05 05:18 AM   #8 
     - We still have BUSH, daddy and his minions just wind up Bush Lite in the  anarchy1999   Aug-01-05 06:03 AM   #19 
        - Nice work, if you can get it, eh?  Blue State Native   Aug-01-05 08:07 AM   #35 
     - I suppose  d_b   Aug-01-05 06:45 AM   #29 
     - Which one is anti-war out of the two?  ohio_liberal   Aug-01-05 08:53 AM   #50 
     - Wes testified before the Senate in November 2002  Clark2008   Aug-01-05 11:40 AM   #85 
     - Maybe if Hillary was terminal ill.....  Sterling   Aug-01-05 09:24 AM   #59 
  - Will the be so dumb as to run one?  lvx35   Aug-01-05 05:06 AM   #2 
  - Yes! Iraq has been a Bonanza  bvar22   Aug-01-05 02:44 PM   #121 
     - where are the voters gonna go?  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:20 PM   #151 
  - So...  TreasonousBastard   Aug-01-05 05:09 AM   #4 
  - Football.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:22 PM   #152 
  - I agree.  H2O Man   Aug-01-05 05:09 AM   #5 
  - H20, I have a draft age daughter and feel as you do, but only when we  anarchy1999   Aug-01-05 06:05 AM   #21 
  - I have two teen sons. One is now "draft age" and there is no way that  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-01-05 08:13 AM   #36 
  - I couldn't agree more.  w8liftinglady   Aug-01-05 02:38 PM   #119 
     - Wow - what a picture!  meganmonkey   Aug-01-05 02:55 PM   #126 
        - Thanks  w8liftinglady   Aug-01-05 03:07 PM   # 
  - I think you owe us a definition of the word "pro-war"  bluestateguy   Aug-01-05 05:13 AM   #6 
  - any democrat who agreed with bush about invading iraq for no reason  mopaul   Aug-01-05 05:16 AM   #7 
     - Hey mopaul, there is an easier way to say this.  anarchy1999   Aug-01-05 06:00 AM   #18 
     - That isnt a very good definition.  K-W   Aug-01-05 08:49 AM   #48 
     - Al Gore said this, regarding war with Iraq  Uncle Joe   Aug-01-05 01:56 PM   #109 
     - I'll never vote for one that supports "preemptive self-defense"  wtmusic   Aug-01-05 06:52 PM   #177 
     - They didn't agree with Bush about invading Iraq for no reason  LittleClarkie   Aug-01-05 10:44 PM   #198 
  - Right, lets ALL stay home  DiverDave   Aug-01-05 05:18 AM   #9 
  - oh god, mo's gonna blow the whole election for us again!  mopaul   Aug-01-05 05:24 AM   #10 
     - You nailed it, mo.  ithinkmyliverhurts   Aug-01-05 05:58 AM   #16 
     - And hence the difference... At night TOO MANY so-called "liberals"  Tinoire   Aug-01-05 03:13 PM   #134 
        - So - having a conscience means you WON'T vote? Sorry, that's giving up.  chimpymustgo   Aug-01-05 03:59 PM   #146 
        - I am telling everyone, I am very proud of it in fact.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:29 PM   #155 
        - Nope. Let's not twist things. Means I won't vote for any more war thugs  Tinoire   Aug-01-05 06:05 PM   #164 
        - Perfectly on the mark Tinoire  sintax   Aug-01-05 07:23 PM   #180 
  - I'm with you...  muchacho   Aug-01-05 05:33 AM   #11 
  - if hillary says send more troops & finish bush's war, she's lost me  mopaul   Aug-01-05 05:37 AM   #12 
  - It's not hard for me  muchacho   Aug-01-05 05:50 AM   #13 
  - Unless the Dem candidate calls for PROMPT  mitchtv   Aug-01-05 02:21 PM   #115 
  - You are assuming there will be elections ...  Burried News   Aug-01-05 05:51 AM   #14 
  - some think there hasn't been a real election since Bill's.  mopaul   Aug-01-05 05:55 AM   #15 
     - Some say THEY gave Hillary a Pod.  Swamp Rat   Aug-01-05 05:59 AM   #17 
     - If the balloting issues are not fixed,  vickiss   Aug-01-05 06:37 AM   #28 
  - Thanks for playing....  UDenver20   Aug-01-05 06:04 AM   #20 
  - Sorry dude, the field is ours... and give us back our ball too!  Swamp Rat   Aug-01-05 06:06 AM   #22 
  - Only 66 Posts Too...  stepnw1f   Aug-01-05 12:40 PM   #96 
  - PSSssssT...Hell, Go on and vote for Arnold Ziffel, for all I care!  Hubert Flottz   Aug-01-05 06:25 AM   #23 
  - And we wonder why we lose elections  Nightwing   Aug-01-05 06:25 AM   #24 
  - i will not attempt to explain myself to you  mopaul   Aug-01-05 06:32 AM   #26 
  - knock yourself out - people that don't vote don't get to complain though  emulatorloo   Aug-01-05 08:01 AM   #34 
     - If Germany had run two candidates who were both Nazis  bloom   Aug-01-05 10:00 AM   #66 
     - No dem we could run is as bad as Bush  emulatorloo   Aug-01-05 12:29 PM   #92 
        - I call bullshit. Lieberman is a 'social liberal' only so far as it...  greyhound1966   Aug-01-05 01:20 PM   #101 
           - Still isn't bad as Bush, wouldn't have nominated Roberts, or Bolton  emulatorloo   Aug-01-05 01:25 PM   #103 
              - The dems will never run him again.  greyhound1966   Aug-01-05 01:48 PM   #107 
                 - Change it. Absolutely.  Pithlet   Aug-01-05 02:00 PM   #110 
                    - ....  emulatorloo   Aug-01-05 02:17 PM   #113 
                    - Unfortunately, I can imagine worse.  greyhound1966   Aug-01-05 02:29 PM   #116 
                    - what 4 years of Bush has done to this country  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:41 PM   #159 
                    - So making it even easier for them  Pithlet   Aug-01-05 07:28 PM   #181 
                       - They all betrayed us minus a handful.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 08:37 PM   #183 
                    - And the Vichy Dem sellouts that let them!  TankLV   Aug-01-05 10:17 PM   #191 
                    - voting for the status quo only enables all we deplore  bpilgrim   Aug-01-05 10:26 PM   #195 
     - Sure they do.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:32 PM   #157 
  - To many people,  H2O Man   Aug-01-05 06:37 AM   #27 
  - I'm one of 'em.  Swamp Rat   Aug-01-05 06:41 PM   #174 
  - Some of the Democrats  bloom   Aug-01-05 09:58 AM   #65 
  - excuse me but we have had that arguement here before and we still lost....  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-01-05 10:18 AM   #71 
  - Because you keep insisting that a dem, any dem, will be better, when  greyhound1966   Aug-01-05 01:24 PM   #102 
  - ensure a victory and restoration of the American dream.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:35 PM   #158 
  - Some of us listened to this argument in '04.  LWolf   Aug-01-05 06:32 PM   #168 
     - Exactly!  TankLV   Aug-01-05 10:20 PM   #193 
  - Falling into it  Pigwidgeon   Aug-01-05 06:28 AM   #25 
  - Here's what I don't get (well, one of the things that I don't get):  Dhalgren   Aug-01-05 08:37 AM   #44 
  - Not for president, not for any other office. Green for me.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 07:24 AM   #31 
  - PERFECTION. DAMMIT. PERFECTION.  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 07:37 AM   #32 
  - You don't have to be perfect to know that the war was wrong...  dhinojosa   Aug-01-05 07:39 AM   #33 
  - yeah, that silly little war.  KG   Aug-01-05 08:14 AM   #37 
  - sorry! that is the most insulting argument of all  G_j   Aug-01-05 08:22 AM   #38 
  - So if I sit out the vote with a pro-war Democrat...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 08:42 AM   #45 
     - So let's say you vote for a pro-war Dem  MadHound   Aug-01-05 09:19 AM   #57 
        - Please...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 09:38 AM   #62 
        - Nice to see that you're comfotable with innocent blood on your hands  MadHound   Aug-01-05 10:10 AM   #67 
        - Damn straight. Every bit of it.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-01-05 05:46 PM   #161 
        - Very well said. You spoke for me!  Tinoire   Aug-01-05 09:07 PM   #184 
        - that Koo-laid had a terrible  G_j   Aug-01-05 10:05 PM   #190 
        - Actually, this argument's effectiveness depends on where you live  AlGore-08.com   Aug-01-05 10:48 AM   #77 
           - I agree completely...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 11:09 AM   #79 
              - And then some of us "loudest complainers"  MadHound   Aug-01-05 11:22 AM   #81 
              - A waste of time....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 11:34 AM   # 
                 - No, what I'm asking you for is some proof, numbers, stats, etc.  MadHound   Aug-01-05 11:49 AM   #86 
                    - My happy ass is none of your concern...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 11:55 AM   #89 
                       - Ah, yes, but I wasn't making a broad brush attack now was I?  MadHound   Aug-01-05 12:22 PM   #91 
                          - I have a right to express an opinion...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 12:49 PM   #97 
                             - Yes you have that right, as I have the right to call you on your BS  MadHound   Aug-01-05 01:11 PM   #99 
                             - Sigh...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 01:43 PM   #105 
                             - have never been actively involved  Sterling   Aug-01-05 05:50 PM   #163 
              - Since you yourself bought the argument that you didn't need to vote Dem  AlGore-08.com   Aug-01-05 01:12 PM   #100 
                 - Very Simple...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 01:46 PM   #106 
                    - So you were working on the Gore campaign until that moment?  AlGore-08.com   Aug-01-05 01:55 PM   # 
                       - No. I wasn't politically involved before the 2000 Campaign  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 02:18 PM   #114 
                          - My point is not would you dis them, it's how would you change their minds?  AlGore-08.com   Aug-01-05 02:57 PM   #128 
                             - Similar circumstances today? I would have voted for Gore  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 03:05 PM   #132 
                                - I agree that's a good point - - although it didn't change many minds  AlGore-08.com   Aug-01-05 03:18 PM   #137 
                                   - Didn't work on me back then, either...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 03:23 PM   #138 
        - MadHound  Tinoire   Aug-01-05 02:53 PM   #125 
           - Hey There, Thanks!  MadHound   Aug-01-05 03:07 PM   #133 
              - Oh you resonate alright!  Tinoire   Aug-01-05 03:16 PM   #135 
                 - Me too!  Swamp Rat   Aug-01-05 06:44 PM   #175 
  - Hey, we all have deal breakers.  Pacifist Patriot   Aug-01-05 03:31 PM   #139 
  - I'm told that Dennis Kucinich is anti-abortion...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-01-05 03:38 PM   #141 
     - You're right. No easy answer.  Pacifist Patriot   Aug-01-05 03:42 PM   #142 
  - It's not anywhere NEAR the "perfection" argument.  TankLV   Aug-01-05 10:29 PM   #196 
     - Read your sig line....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-02-05 07:41 AM   #207 
  - I've taken the pledge  G_j   Aug-01-05 08:24 AM   #39 
  - Me either  mmonk   Aug-01-05 08:27 AM   #40 
  - I'm with you 100%, Mo.  Dhalgren   Aug-01-05 08:30 AM   #41 
  - Where is another Bobby Kennedy  mmonk   Aug-01-05 08:32 AM   #42 
  - I do not recognize "my" party anymore...  T Wolf   Aug-01-05 08:33 AM   #43 
  - It's "insanity" - not "stupidity".  TankLV   Aug-01-05 11:04 PM   #202 
  - I'm curious, but do you really think that you were actually voting....  Media_Lies_Daily   Aug-01-05 08:43 AM   #46 
  - Time to stand up and be counted. No more war mongers.  kohodog   Aug-01-05 08:46 AM   #47 
  - Here comes the accusations of 'purity' again...  Q   Aug-01-05 08:58 AM   #51 
  - Along with the usual "not as bad as" rationales for collaborators.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 09:06 AM   #53 
  - but "pragmatism"  GreenArrow   Aug-01-05 11:16 AM   #80 
  - They certainly aren't minor issues  Pithlet   Aug-01-05 01:33 PM   #104 
     - How do you know?  TankLV   Aug-01-05 11:12 PM   #203 
     - Here's the reason we get handed our asses every election..  liberalpress   Aug-02-05 08:26 AM   #210 
  - My sentiments 100 per cent.  spanone   Aug-01-05 09:01 AM   #52 
  - Here here!  SunDrop23   Aug-01-05 09:10 AM   #54 
  - Me either! Kerry got my one and only vote in that regard.  Pithy Cherub   Aug-01-05 09:11 AM   #55 
  - It won't matter who you vote for, with Diebold and ES&S, two Bushite  Peace Patriot   Aug-01-05 09:13 AM   #56 
  - Pigwidgeon, I LOVE your solution for Iraq--a United Nations protectorate  Peace Patriot   Aug-01-05 10:32 AM   #75 
  - I have no plans on voting in 08  Sterling   Aug-01-05 09:21 AM   #58 
  - And even half the Republicans will vote "no war"  goforit   Aug-01-05 09:35 AM   #60 
  - they voted to interfere in the Schiavo case even after EIGHTY-PLUS  MisterP   Aug-01-05 06:07 PM   #165 
  - I'm not either.  bloom   Aug-01-05 09:38 AM   #63 
  - I'm with you, mopaul  notsodumbhillbilly   Aug-01-05 09:39 AM   #64 
  - In my opinion, the problems that we face  Cats Against Frist   Aug-01-05 10:14 AM   #68 
  - nor I  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-01-05 10:15 AM   #69 
  - Just curious  Lannes   Aug-01-05 10:16 AM   #70 
  - Hacket did NOT have a vote in whether we went to war  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-01-05 10:20 AM   #73 
     - I see your point but that wasnt the thrust of my question,my fault.  Lannes   Aug-01-05 10:43 AM   #76 
        - Lannes, I agree that there is no simple, quick pull-out solution to Bush's  Peace Patriot   Aug-01-05 11:52 AM   #88 
           - Thanks for your response Peace Patriot  Lannes   Aug-01-05 12:12 PM   #90 
           - And essential to reestablishing US credibility  wtmusic   Aug-01-05 03:00 PM   #129 
  - F the DLC  no_to_war_economy   Aug-01-05 10:20 AM   #72 
  - I'm with you, Mo.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Aug-01-05 10:26 AM   #74 
  - Mayberry Machiavelli, in answer to your question...  Peace Patriot   Aug-01-05 11:34 AM   #83 
  - No votes for war here - nt  LeftHander   Aug-01-05 10:54 AM   #78 
  - I'm with you mopaul.  screembloodymurder   Aug-01-05 11:25 AM   #82 
  - I'm voting for MoPaul for President.  lateo   Aug-01-05 11:37 AM   #84 
  - One issue voters have always been a problem for Dems (n/t)  Ravy   Aug-01-05 11:51 AM   #87 
  - One issue voters have always been a problem for any politician.  Pacifist Patriot   Aug-01-05 03:38 PM   #140 
  - if someone sacrifices peace on the altar of "electability," there is  MisterP   Aug-01-05 06:17 PM   #167 
  - So, how's that working out for you?  Ravy   Aug-02-05 02:35 AM   #205 
  - Here is the other side...  Ravy   Aug-02-05 02:32 AM   #204 
  - If it was only one issue, I might be a little more relaxed  lojasmo   Aug-01-05 04:41 PM   #150 
  - and whos head of the DNC???  LSK   Aug-01-05 12:32 PM   #93 
  - Is the head of the DNC running for president?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 12:40 PM   #95 
     - no, he is not running  LSK   Aug-01-05 12:52 PM   #98 
        - Well, if he does, he's not saying it.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 02:01 PM   #111 
  - I Won't Either...  stepnw1f   Aug-01-05 12:39 PM   #94 
  - It's a damn difficult position.  greatauntoftriplets   Aug-01-05 01:55 PM   #108 
  - All I have to do  Pithlet   Aug-01-05 02:02 PM   #112 
  - Never again  Pastiche423   Aug-01-05 02:29 PM   #117 
  - Depends on your definition of "pro-war" Democrat  LittleClarkie   Aug-01-05 02:38 PM   #118 
  - Same here.  Zhade   Aug-01-05 02:39 PM   #120 
  - Damn straight I will NOT be voting for a pro-war Dem.  MidnightWind   Aug-01-05 02:47 PM   #122 
  - It isn't taking a stand  Pithlet   Aug-01-05 03:03 PM   #130 
  - Better to let the RW have their war without our help.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 06:32 PM   #169 
  - Neither will I ever vote to return any of my Congressmen to office who  indepat   Aug-01-05 02:48 PM   #123 
  - Yeah, like your vote counts. Or should I say, "is counted?"  catzies   Aug-01-05 02:51 PM   #124 
  - Do the initials "HRC" ring a bell?  Snivi Yllom   Aug-01-05 02:56 PM   #127 
  - Yes. Unfortunately, a loud and annoying one.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 03:18 PM   #136 
  - the CAFTA debacle recently showed that whether we have a House  MisterP   Aug-01-05 03:05 PM   #131 
  - What does "Pro-War" mean?  sintax   Aug-01-05 03:50 PM   #143 
  - Any war?  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-01-05 03:52 PM   #144 
  - Yes. Unless sanctioned by the UN.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-01-05 03:58 PM   #145 
     - Considering that almost every member of Congress supported military action  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-02-05 06:54 AM   #206 
        - So it does. The UN did not sanction the war in Afghanistan.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-02-05 07:41 AM   #208 
           - Even Kucinich voted for it  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-02-05 07:45 AM   #209 
              - Well, there are a lot of people in this country who are anti-war.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Aug-02-05 08:31 AM   #211 
  - You didn't even bother to define a "Pro War Democrat"  brentspeak   Aug-01-05 04:08 PM   #147 
  - I asked for that too  LittleClarkie   Aug-01-05 05:46 PM   #162 
  - Read the thread next time instead of just posting RE the op.  Sterling   Aug-01-05 06:36 PM   #170 
     - And just as I suspected  LittleClarkie   Aug-01-05 10:51 PM   #199 
  - Anybody think the Pirates have a chance to finish out of the  ArkDem   Aug-01-05 04:12 PM   #148 
  - Sure. They're only 2.5 games behind the Reds.  JVS   Aug-01-05 06:37 PM   #172 
  - Dear mopaul,  Tinksrival   Aug-01-05 05:24 PM   #153 
  - Ditto. Voted Nader in 2004; will not vote pro-war in 2008either. nt  KnowerOfLogic   Aug-01-05 05:26 PM   #154 
  - Attended a meeting last night, Rep. Barney Frank was the featured speaker  paineinthearse   Aug-01-05 05:30 PM   #156 
  - me either  Jacobin   Aug-01-05 05:42 PM   #160 
  - Well I sure as f** am not, either.... so I dunno.  Spock_is_Skeptical   Aug-01-05 06:11 PM   #166 
  - Let's hope they don't run one  impeachdubya   Aug-01-05 06:38 PM   #173 
  - I'm with you. I'll vote though I just won't vote for a pro-war Dem and I  Larkspur   Aug-01-05 06:50 PM   #176 
  - There's always hope that they will nominate somebody who  WI_DEM   Aug-01-05 07:03 PM   #178 
  - Whoop De Doo!!  BamaLefty   Aug-01-05 07:10 PM   #179 
  - Pro-war or Pro Iraq war?  Beaverhausen   Aug-01-05 07:31 PM   #182 
  - See ya later Nader Raider  jbane   Aug-01-05 09:10 PM   #185 
  - better Green than spattered blood-red  MisterP   Aug-01-05 10:22 PM   #194 
  - O I have missed the Green vs. Dem threads!  Hardrada   Aug-01-05 09:49 PM   #186 
  - Count me in. I have reached my last compromise  mitchtv   Aug-01-05 09:53 PM   #187 
  - No DINOs for me. Back to our roots or the neocon/theo-fascist virus will  satya   Aug-01-05 09:55 PM   #188 
  - That's my thinking exactly.  TankLV   Aug-01-05 09:58 PM   #189 
  - i will not be voting for those who have enabled bush's agenda ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-01-05 10:18 PM   #192 
  - almost identical first responses too...  dweller   Aug-01-05 10:37 PM   #197 
     - yeah ...  welshTerrier2   Aug-01-05 11:00 PM   #201 
  - Well Hillary hasnt won the Primary yet  Fescue4u   Aug-01-05 10:54 PM   #200 
  - Locking....  Moderator   Aug-02-05 09:59 AM   #212 
 

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