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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #33
45. I can engage in civil debate but I won't tolerate people defending bigots
especially when the subject at hand is a news story wherein their opwn leader acknowledges that he was leading a group of racists. The last time this subject came up people defended the Minutemen while ignoring the racist history of their leader at the time - Chris Simcox. If Chris Simcox were David Duke, every single Minuteman defender on DU would be pushing up cyber daisies by now. I will never defend the KKK and I will never defend the Mintutemen.

YOu want to talk about better border protection, then fine..but as I noted really have to know a bit more than you do now to debate that with me. I KNOW the California/ Arizona border quite well.
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  -BREAKING!!! Jaques Cousteau Discovers Water is Wet!!!!! nothingshocksmeanymore  Jul-28-05 11:05 PM   #0 
  - As The Song Says, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Jul-28-05 11:07 PM   #1 
  - You still here? :)  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-05 11:09 PM   #2 
  - Indeed, Ma'am  The Magistrate   Jul-28-05 11:14 PM   #4 
  - Yes, yes it does. n/t  Kingshakabobo   Jul-29-05 10:11 AM   #41 
  - Well,  skids   Jul-28-05 11:12 PM   #3 
  - They're not racists;  BuyingThyme   Jul-28-05 11:14 PM   #5 
  - Oh. My. God.  Bouncy Ball   Jul-28-05 11:15 PM   #6 
  - If you patrol the illegals in Houston....  Opposite Reaction   Jul-29-05 01:58 PM   #64 
  - Now if only there could be a "moment of clarity" epidemic among  mcctatas   Jul-28-05 11:18 PM   #7 
  - I'm still waiting for alleged progressives here to get that moment of  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-28-05 11:36 PM   #8 
     - ...and still waiting...  ulysses   Jul-29-05 09:43 AM   #11 
        - Can you picture my utter glee in seeing this story in print?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 09:58 AM   #22 
           - vividly.  ulysses   Jul-29-05 10:01 AM   #26 
  - kick  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 09:35 AM   #9 
  - The minutemen project is not evil  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 09:39 AM   #10 
  - Our Border Safer?  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 09:45 AM   #12 
  - Say you were a terrorist, and you wanted to come to the US.  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 09:47 AM   #13 
     - so why aren't these numbnuts on the northern border too?  ulysses   Jul-29-05 09:48 AM   #14 
     - Because the live in Arizona. personally, I think  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 09:49 AM   #15 
        - No, actually lots of the minutemen came in from other states  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 09:55 AM   #19 
        - You're Still Not Defining "The Problem"  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 09:57 AM   #21 
        - wrong! they came from everywhere and they picked arizona  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 09:59 AM   #24 
        - They were crowing the fact that they came from everywhere quite loudly  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 10:02 AM   #27 
        - I've been to DOUGLAS me..NOBODY lives in that hell hole  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:04 AM   #31 
     - Nope. Don't See It  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 09:57 AM   #20 
     - Not to mention  Mythsaje   Jul-30-05 12:49 PM   #73 
     - So how many Mexican terrorists were on those planes?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:02 AM   #28 
        - not to mention about 1/2 the illegal immigrants are from other Latin  MisterP   Jul-29-05 02:12 PM   #68 
  - vigilantism is NOT something progressives should be for  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 09:55 AM   #18 
  - Absolutely right! (n/t)  fishwax   Jul-29-05 10:06 AM   #35 
  - Wow. Nice to see you use Bush's catch phrase.  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:09 AM   #37 
     - What catch phrase is that?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 10:11 AM   #42 
  - Sorry. PRotecting the border is fine with me. A bunch of Mexican haters  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:00 AM   #25 
     - "a bunch of mexican haters"  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:05 AM   #32 
        - I can tell you've never been to a border  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:11 AM   #40 
           - ps  Kenneth ken   Jul-29-05 02:11 PM   #67 
              - All very good points  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-30-05 12:32 PM   #72 
  - it's pretty fucking sad when this didn't matter to the DU apologists  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 09:54 AM   #16 
  - I am not a racist. Far from it.  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:04 AM   #30 
     - A report came out that said illegals are NOT a strain on health system  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 10:06 AM   #34 
     - I'd be happy to. let's do that.  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:08 AM   #36 
        - But the minutemen AREN'T doing that...not even close...not even as a side  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 10:09 AM   #39 
        - non sequitur  noiretblu   Jul-29-05 02:17 PM   #71 
     - Fine goals, all  charlie   Jul-29-05 10:17 AM   #48 
     - one more time. VIGILANTiSM is NOT the ANSWER!!  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 10:44 AM   #61 
     - Newsflash...illegals do pay taxes...  VelmaD   Jul-29-05 02:13 PM   #69 
  - Let's see if this post draws the minutemen defenders out of the woodwork  SemiCharmedQuark   Jul-29-05 09:54 AM   #17 
  - It Already Has  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 09:59 AM   #23 
  - it takes awhile to crawl out from under rocks. nt  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 10:03 AM   #29 
     - Can you not engage in civilized debate?  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:06 AM   #33 
        - Can You?  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 10:09 AM   #38 
        - I was just called a racist and an aplogist.  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:13 AM   #43 
        - Secure Them From What?  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 10:18 AM   #49 
        - If it steps like a goose...  Kraklen   Jul-29-05 02:03 PM   #65 
        - Here f-cking Here!!  Kingshakabobo   Jul-29-05 10:16 AM   #46 
        - I can engage in civil debate but I won't tolerate people defending bigots  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:15 AM   #45 
        - Ok, so what's your solution?  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:19 AM   #50 
           - DEFINE THE PROBLEM!  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 10:22 AM   #51 
           - The problem, as I see it  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:27 AM   #52 
              - People don't HAVE to bring guns into the US..documented white male  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:33 AM   #54 
              - Fair Enough! I Completely Disagree, However  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 10:34 AM   #55 
                 - Ok, but why can't we have them come in legally,  KarenInMA   Jul-29-05 10:38 AM   #57 
                 - Because our immigration laws allow high tech people to be imported  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:41 AM   #58 
                 - That's OK By Me  ProfessorGAC   Jul-29-05 10:42 AM   #59 
                 - whatever immigration problems there might be  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 10:50 AM   #62 
                 - You don't believe there is evidence drugs come across the southern border?  NickB79   Jul-29-05 02:06 PM   #66 
                    - So how many drug runners did the minutemen stop?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 02:17 PM   #70 
           - Read this then we'll talk. No..vigilantes will never solve this  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:29 AM   #53 
        - not with apologists for racist assholes. sorry  jonnyblitz   Jul-29-05 10:42 AM   #60 
  - The sad thing about this is they will be arresting the  dogday   Jul-29-05 10:14 AM   #44 
  - Studies demonstrate that immigrants (legal or not) mostly CONTRIBUTE  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 10:17 AM   #47 
  - Terrific  wtmusic   Jul-29-05 10:37 AM   #56 
  - LOL  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-29-05 01:51 PM   #63 
  - And to continue this conversatin, take a look at this thread.  Maestro   Jul-30-05 01:12 PM   #74 

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