Reply #36: Some are fighting the illegal occuptaion...

[fujiyama]

Some really aren't. Some are just killing innocent civilians.

The problem is when you invade a country like Iraq, which is divided betwen several groups is that it turns to shit. There really is no way to manage it. Right now they have many pissed off Sunnis setting off bombs near Shiite mosques and others are just bombing anyone looking to find a job, or even children accepting candy. Many of these people are terrorists - but it's important to note that they are there only AFTER the fall of Saddam.

This all should have been expected and should have been yet another reason why invading it would have been a bad idea (that and the fact that Iraq really posed no real threat to the US making it completely unjistified).

The "insurgents" (I have no idea who they are either and we've been fed a lot of bullshit by the media) are not to be idealized in any way. They aren't a true guerilla force. Many are just murderers and others are just wishing to turn the country into a theocracy.

And as for Afghanistan, supporting the Mujahadeen was one of the worst mistakes ever made. By arming them we ended up creating what became the Taliban and Al Quaeda. We also ended up funneling lots of arms to Pakistan, the country that actually created the two.

Ultimately, leaving is the best solution we have - well atleast setting a timetable of leaving within the next year. It's obvious that us staying there isn't helping in any way. The US has proven incompetant in bringing the Iraqi people security in any way. We have destroyed their infrastructure.