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Sat Sep-27-03 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 71. GW didn't have the opportunity to pass legislation |
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And neither did Ike or Grant....
Clark served when he served....
We don't know how he would have performed in different eras....
That's like saying Rocky Marciano was a better boxer because he beat Joe Louis and Muhummad Ali never did....
Or
It's like saying Muhummad Ali is a better boxer than Rocky Marciano because he beat George Foreman and Joe Frazier and Rocky Marciano never did.....
He met the challenge he was presented....
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| -Serious question: What are Clark's progressive accomplishments? |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:06 PM |
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Repost of some simple questions for Clark that bear on this |
fiziwig |
Sep-27-03 03:09 PM |
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He's a four star general who decided to run as a democrat. |
Solomon |
Sep-28-03 12:25 AM |
#110 |
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"those brave souls who have stepped forward on our behalf." |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:28 AM |
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more liberal than al sharpton |
JI7 |
Sep-27-03 03:11 PM |
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the question was about "accomplishment" not "attitude" |
dfong63 |
Sep-27-03 07:38 PM |
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Scaring the sh*t out of the entire Repug party n/t |
MIMStigator |
Sep-27-03 03:12 PM |
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Does that make Bin Laden a progressive too |
JVS |
Sep-27-03 03:14 PM |
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That was LOL funny |
roughsatori |
Sep-27-03 03:41 PM |
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good one...LOL! |
tokenlib |
Sep-27-03 03:18 PM |
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I LIKE that one a lot n/t |
janekat |
Sep-28-03 12:12 AM |
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Cool. This is a link to Cocoa's thread. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:24 PM |
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well, he has none. |
KG |
Sep-27-03 03:26 PM |
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The silence cetainly does seem damning. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:28 PM |
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Not really |
union_maid |
Sep-27-03 03:35 PM |
#11 |
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Thanks for your honesty. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:39 PM |
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I believe the silence seems damning |
Pastiche423 |
Sep-27-03 03:44 PM |
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Yup. That's my number #1 worry about Clark. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:55 PM |
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"Look at what he's *done*" sounds like a good test |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:35 AM |
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Even if he has none., an explanation would be nice. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:32 PM |
#9 |
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Yes, he endorsed Cleland in 2002 |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 03:48 PM |
#19 |
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Human rights, cleaner energy |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 03:32 PM |
#10 |
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Thank you. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:35 PM |
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This is the best I could find on short notice |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 03:42 PM |
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Thanks for taking the time to find the link. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:47 PM |
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I'd agree that standing by while people are killed is utterly dishonorable |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:40 AM |
#151 |
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Does lobbying for the company whose board you sit on |
roughsatori |
Sep-27-03 03:45 PM |
#17 |
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I'm going to use this thread as reference. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:49 PM |
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It's a little of both, of course, but . . . |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 04:05 PM |
#28 |
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The same question came to my mind. |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:38 AM |
#150 |
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#1 is very good in my book |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 04:03 PM |
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Here's one thing |
sandnsea |
Sep-27-03 03:55 PM |
#22 |
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Excellent. Thank you. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:59 PM |
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I'm not for Clark |
sandnsea |
Sep-27-03 04:04 PM |
#27 |
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I'm surprised thay haven't googled this stuff already. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:07 PM |
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He Lead The Camapign Against Ethnic Cleansing |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 03:55 PM |
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The motives for the Kosovo war are debatable. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 03:58 PM |
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I Don't Think The Indigenous Kosovars or Bosnians |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 04:06 PM |
#29 |
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I am not trying to diminish Clark. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:09 PM |
#31 |
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Ask the Serbs !! Clark was their Killer from the Air |
JasonBerry |
Sep-27-03 04:14 PM |
#33 |
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LOL |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 04:34 PM |
#43 |
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This is Fun! |
RandomUser |
Sep-27-03 04:53 PM |
#48 |
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months ... nt |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 04:55 PM |
#49 |
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Well, you've convinced me |
RandomUser |
Sep-27-03 05:02 PM |
#52 |
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Jason's ok ... |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 05:07 PM |
#53 |
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that was a smart or classy answer |
lostnfound |
Sep-28-03 06:09 AM |
#141 |
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*sigh* |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 05:09 PM |
#54 |
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Apologies |
RandomUser |
Sep-27-03 05:20 PM |
#58 |
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now you've done it ... |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 05:28 PM |
#60 |
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Sorry you feel that way. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 05:40 PM |
#62 |
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sticking up for someone does not ... |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 05:51 PM |
#66 |
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The funny thing here is I was sticking up |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 04:08 AM |
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For the record |
RandomUser |
Sep-27-03 07:03 PM |
#74 |
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Jason's biggest problem is that ... |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 07:46 PM |
#80 |
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Clark Was Not Their Killer |
Justice |
Sep-28-03 06:16 AM |
#142 |
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"He was a general carrying out orders." |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:53 AM |
#152 |
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I don't think this thread is an attempt to "diminish Clark" |
orangepeel68 |
Sep-27-03 04:19 PM |
#36 |
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Yeah, this thread will help Clark if we take it seriously. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:21 PM |
#37 |
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OK orangepeel :-) I found something for you |
Clark Can WIN |
Sep-27-03 11:17 PM |
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Thanks, Clark -- |
orangepeel68 |
Sep-27-03 11:23 PM |
#93 |
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For debate on Kosovo, read Parenti's book 'To Kill A Nation' |
lostnfound |
Sep-28-03 06:06 AM |
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what do you mean when you call that progressive? |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 04:13 PM |
#32 |
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My Fealty Is To Do Doing What Is Right |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 04:25 PM |
#39 |
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well, I thought this thread was about the ideology |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 04:47 PM |
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he did volunteer work with inner-city kiddos ... |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 04:16 PM |
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Absolutely! |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:18 PM |
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ok |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 04:23 PM |
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Do you know what the program is called? |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:26 PM |
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nope ... nt |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 04:32 PM |
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This Is Like Final Exams |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 04:33 PM |
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Hehe. Sorry about that. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:37 PM |
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Well, if he graduated the Point in June, and was at Oxford in August |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 10:58 AM |
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Thanks for asking the questions... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Sep-27-03 04:47 PM |
#46 |
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More on the environment |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 04:48 PM |
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Good stuff. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 04:56 PM |
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Not so unique, actually! |
Cleve Steamer |
Sep-27-03 05:02 PM |
#51 |
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If I was the teacher's aide in this class grading the paper... |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 05:16 PM |
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Right now it gets an "I" n/t |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 05:17 PM |
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not much on reading before grading? |
Pepperbelly |
Sep-27-03 05:18 PM |
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Didn't say there was nothing. There are two things basically. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 05:22 PM |
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What Are |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 05:42 PM |
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Besides passing or signing legislation? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 05:47 PM |
#65 |
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How Much Legislation Did Grant, Eisenhower, Washington Pass |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 05:55 PM |
#67 |
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None. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 06:02 PM |
#68 |
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GW didn't have the opportunity to pass legislation |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 06:44 PM |
#71 |
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What are Clark's progressive accomplishments? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 06:49 PM |
#72 |
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His Best Progressive Accomplishment Is Yet To Come.... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 06:56 PM |
#73 |
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And that pretty much sums up this thread. n/t |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 07:07 PM |
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Can You Think Of A Greater Progressive Accomplishment |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Sep-27-03 07:32 PM |
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yeah, he could help Dean get elected |
dfong63 |
Sep-27-03 07:45 PM |
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Yes. Something based in reality as opposed to speculation. n/t |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 09:14 PM |
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Well, I'm off to work now. |
FubarFly |
Sep-27-03 05:36 PM |
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He instituted... |
Padraig18 |
Sep-27-03 05:42 PM |
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Hate to kick this thread |
OKNancy |
Sep-27-03 06:20 PM |
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No problem. This thread needs to be kicked. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 06:32 PM |
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Thank you |
salin |
Sep-27-03 07:24 PM |
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I am one of those people Salin..... |
Flying_Pig |
Sep-27-03 09:49 PM |
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Threads like these are good |
salin |
Sep-27-03 11:27 PM |
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Just so all the info gets accumulated, kick. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 09:33 PM |
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Implementing Child Care On Bases For Military Families |
cryingshame |
Sep-27-03 09:55 PM |
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Got a link? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 10:06 PM |
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It Was On CSpan Twice |
cryingshame |
Sep-27-03 10:13 PM |
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From the original post: |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 10:26 PM |
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HE ACTUALLY HELPED IMPLEMENT DAYCARE |
cryingshame |
Sep-27-03 10:28 PM |
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There was no Day Care before Clark? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 10:46 PM |
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My Take- Which May Be Wrong |
cryingshame |
Sep-27-03 10:59 PM |
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This is a fine thread ... |
familydoctor |
Sep-27-03 11:04 PM |
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Start another thread please. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 11:24 PM |
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Here's a little something for you to chew on.... |
familydoctor |
Sep-27-03 11:41 PM |
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What is more fair than asking for his accomplishments? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-27-03 11:57 PM |
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You are very good at assertions and generalising from insufficient data |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 11:10 AM |
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yeah nice try |
Cheswick |
Sep-28-03 06:41 AM |
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Have to agree |
JNelson6563 |
Sep-28-03 08:32 AM |
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Personally, I believe in the idea of a life of service then |
familydoctor |
Sep-28-03 09:28 AM |
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Uh - Clark was in the Military NOT a politician. Whaddya expect? n/t |
janekat |
Sep-27-03 11:34 PM |
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he's certainly a politician NOW eom |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:02 AM |
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For what, 13 days? |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:08 AM |
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Then upon what do we judge Mr. Clark? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:10 AM |
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His words. |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:17 AM |
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wow...you are taking this awfully personally |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:20 AM |
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I'm not taking it personally at all. |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:37 AM |
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I'm filthy rich. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:26 AM |
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Dean has said he is against the war. |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:47 AM |
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no accomplishments... |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:11 AM |
#102 |
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No one assessed anything based on 13 days. |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:18 AM |
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i know...i don't know much about clark |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:24 AM |
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Why is it absurd? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:18 AM |
#106 |
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actually, i don't expect him to have 'progressive' credentials |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:23 AM |
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List his centrist accomplishments then. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:29 AM |
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sorry...i can't help you with that either |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:32 AM |
#114 |
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If you want to state that he's dishonest, do so. |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:35 AM |
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i don't know if is honest or dishonest...you claimed he is honest |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 12:37 AM |
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Great. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:39 AM |
#119 |
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unfortunately...honesty, is this case, is not one of virtues |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 01:02 AM |
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When you know that history doesn't exist, it's strong evidence |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:29 AM |
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I'm not trying to convert you |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:37 AM |
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You are presuming I based my decision based on |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 12:45 AM |
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Go with your feeling. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 12:51 AM |
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I'm curious... |
phegger |
Sep-28-03 01:26 AM |
#124 |
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Yes. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-28-03 11:18 AM |
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You went from stating that 'you think you understand the |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 02:19 PM |
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Sharpton has a political history as well |
Mairead |
Sep-28-03 11:14 AM |
#156 |
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This thread is not a setup. |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 04:03 AM |
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The shoe dropped throughout the thread, |
BillyBunter |
Sep-28-03 04:33 AM |
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That wasn't my intent, although I was aware it might happen. |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 04:57 AM |
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What were YOUR progressive accomplishments |
Buzzz |
Sep-28-03 01:31 AM |
#125 |
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If I was running for President I would be sure to tell you. |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 04:09 AM |
#130 |
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i don't think the poster is running for president |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 04:21 AM |
#132 |
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Aware yes, active no. |
Buzzz |
Sep-28-03 04:50 AM |
#134 |
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For the purpose of this thread, progressive is a loose term. |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 05:01 AM |
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he was the NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe, unlike the poster |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 05:09 AM |
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I don't have such a hard time. |
Buzzz |
Sep-28-03 05:38 AM |
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Great, that makes him very qualified to be a General |
Cheswick |
Sep-28-03 06:47 AM |
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At this point... |
Buzzz |
Sep-28-03 09:02 AM |
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For your consideration |
dralston |
Sep-28-03 02:34 AM |
#126 |
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I'm going to repost |
sandnsea |
Sep-28-03 02:56 AM |
#127 |
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did you read these first? |
noiretblu |
Sep-28-03 05:18 AM |
#138 |
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Of course |
dralston |
Sep-28-03 01:55 PM |
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This is beautiful. My enormous thanks. |
FubarFly |
Sep-28-03 04:21 AM |
#131 |
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"hold nineteen democracies together while conducting 34,000 sorties"??? |
JohnOneillsMemory |
Sep-28-03 11:00 AM |
#154 |
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Clark is not for pacifists |
dralston |
Sep-28-03 01:45 PM |
#158 |
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