| 215. You don't need a copyright notice for copyright to attach any longer |
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And making them publicly available doesn't put them in the public domain (otherwise libraries would put publishers out of business).
They're probably fair use primarily because they aren't undermining any market for the items. They're a matter of public importants and they're being read so that people can form an opinion about very serious matters of public policy.
Copyright protects, for example, music distributors from being undermined by free distribution of what they're trying to sell. Unlike music, these documents aren't being used by people who are trying to set up an electronic voting company, and it's not like municipalities are circumventing Diebold and getting from BBV everything they need to run an election.
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| -Entire bbv.org site confiscated |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 10:36 AM |
#0 |
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Have you confirmed this with the principals? |
RedEagle |
Sep-26-03 10:41 AM |
#1 |
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Point well taken. |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 10:56 AM |
#12 |
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I haven't heard squat! |
ParanoidPat |
Sep-26-03 11:01 AM |
#16 |
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^^^^ Pat^^^^ would know! |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 11:17 AM |
#24 |
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Just a reminder to all who are reading this..... |
ParanoidPat |
Sep-26-03 11:24 AM |
#31 |
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Bev with Mike Malloy is 10PM eastern time |
nostamj |
Sep-26-03 11:45 AM |
#41 |
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Yup - there's this notice on the site.... |
janekat |
Sep-26-03 11:59 AM |
#50 |
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I'm the principal, this is my letter. |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 05:25 PM |
#149 |
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Have you tried contacting ACLU |
tanstaafl |
Sep-26-03 08:30 PM |
#182 |
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Question |
HFishbine |
Sep-26-03 10:43 AM |
#2 |
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digital millenium copyright act... |
ThirdWheelLegend |
Sep-26-03 10:50 AM |
#5 |
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Digital Copyright law, same thing being used by RIAA |
madfloridian |
Sep-26-03 10:50 AM |
#6 |
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Digital Millenium Copyright Act. (NT) |
Atlant |
Sep-26-03 11:22 AM |
#28 |
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Take back the Net |
seemslikeadream |
Sep-26-03 11:31 AM |
#34 |
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"Digital Millebbium" ? |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:33 AM |
#35 |
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Those bb's and nn's |
seemslikeadream |
Sep-26-03 11:52 AM |
#45 |
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DMCA is corporate censorship at work |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Sep-26-03 10:45 AM |
#3 |
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Every fucking Democrat who supported the DMCA is a fucking DINO!!! |
Sephirstein |
Sep-26-03 05:36 PM |
#152 |
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DMCA is the ultimate "new democrat" corporate giveaway yet |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Sep-26-03 06:55 PM |
#165 |
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Not DINO's |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 07:38 AM |
#193 |
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I disagree with parts of that. |
AP |
Sep-27-03 10:41 AM |
#202 |
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posted elsewhere but it's appropriate to re-state |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 10:47 AM |
#4 |
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wow you sure have alot of inside knowlegde don't you now? |
liberalnproud |
Sep-26-03 10:54 AM |
#10 |
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And what are Diebold's plans? |
FlaGranny |
Sep-26-03 10:56 AM |
#11 |
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Theonomic Reconstructionism: One God One Vote! |
seemslikeadream |
Sep-26-03 11:10 AM |
#21 |
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uhhh |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 11:40 AM |
#38 |
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Here's your info on Christian Reconstructianism, etc. |
SharonAnn |
Sep-26-03 10:52 PM |
#188 |
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you'd have to ask diebold, I guess |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 11:19 AM |
#26 |
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why is diebold more important to you than democracy? |
RainDog |
Sep-26-03 05:13 PM |
#147 |
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Excellent parallel, Raindog |
scottxyz |
Sep-26-03 07:28 PM |
#168 |
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I'll bet that was exactly what... |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Sep-26-03 05:38 PM |
#154 |
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Stolen? |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-26-03 11:05 AM |
#19 |
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nope |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 11:23 AM |
#29 |
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I'll just say one thing |
HFishbine |
Sep-26-03 11:49 AM |
#43 |
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Wired also (mis-)reported |
scottxyz |
Sep-26-03 01:54 PM |
#97 |
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I emailed her and said her article title was the exact opposite |
Robbien |
Sep-26-03 02:06 PM |
#100 |
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once again, misinformation from scottxyz |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 07:50 PM |
#175 |
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Not necessarily stolen |
Walt Starr |
Sep-26-03 02:27 PM |
#107 |
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deep breath |
kgfnally |
Sep-27-03 11:05 AM |
#206 |
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DU admins were wise enough not to let that happen here |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 11:22 AM |
#27 |
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Maybe we should have a well-planned backup strategy... |
chadm |
Sep-26-03 12:04 PM |
#53 |
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I think they do |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 12:16 PM |
#64 |
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Is that a threat Cocoanut? |
shance |
Sep-26-03 12:50 PM |
#81 |
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Yup |
Trek234 |
Sep-26-03 03:26 PM |
#117 |
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Can you say 'whistle blower protection' boys and girls? |
ParanoidPat |
Sep-26-03 11:27 AM |
#32 |
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I don't think so |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 11:33 AM |
#36 |
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Ah, I see now. |
HFishbine |
Sep-26-03 11:52 AM |
#46 |
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I'm not sure you do |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:00 PM |
#51 |
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None of the letters Diebold sent alleged they were hacke. |
AP |
Sep-26-03 12:40 PM |
#76 |
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Hey - I - AM - SO - IMPRESSED that DIEBOLD has that much security |
lostnfound |
Sep-26-03 01:19 PM |
#89 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 11:56 AM |
#48 |
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ahhh there it is |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:04 PM |
#54 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 12:20 PM |
#67 |
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why? |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:22 PM |
#68 |
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Yeah |
HFishbine |
Sep-26-03 03:25 PM |
#116 |
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Right on, HF!!!! |
steviet_2003 |
Sep-26-03 04:13 PM |
#130 |
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I guess you would have sent Daniel Ellsberg up the river, hmm? |
kayell |
Sep-26-03 02:08 PM |
#101 |
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but they could be shut down like BBV.org was shut down |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 12:14 PM |
#61 |
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Actually... |
Ani Yun Wiya |
Sep-26-03 03:58 PM |
#127 |
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Yes. What is DMCA and AIT.inc |
TioDiego |
Sep-26-03 10:50 AM |
#7 |
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DMCA |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 10:52 AM |
#9 |
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actually many people KNOW it goes to far... |
ThirdWheelLegend |
Sep-26-03 11:15 AM |
#23 |
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it's just copyright protection |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 11:46 AM |
#42 |
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tip for you |
chadm |
Sep-26-03 12:05 PM |
#55 |
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totally agreed |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:11 PM |
#60 |
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sued for what? |
ThirdWheelLegend |
Sep-26-03 12:32 PM |
#71 |
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stolen, copyrighted... ever heard of FAIR USE? |
ThirdWheelLegend |
Sep-26-03 12:16 PM |
#63 |
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Are you kidding? |
jackcgt |
Sep-26-03 02:03 PM |
#99 |
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no one is taking anything from anyone |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Sep-27-03 10:12 AM |
#198 |
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theft implies |
kgfnally |
Sep-27-03 11:12 AM |
#208 |
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Public FTP site, no copyright notices in the memos |
Pobeka |
Sep-27-03 11:16 AM |
#210 |
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Not only no copyright notice.... |
DEMActivist |
Sep-27-03 11:24 AM |
#212 |
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Thanks for the correction. |
Pobeka |
Sep-27-03 11:32 AM |
#216 |
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You don't need a copyright notice for copyright to attach any longer |
AP |
Sep-27-03 11:31 AM |
#215 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 01:51 PM |
#96 |
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It just occurred to me... |
plan9_pub |
Sep-26-03 03:46 PM |
#124 |
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AIT = Advanced Internet Technologies |
OldSoldier |
Sep-26-03 12:44 PM |
#78 |
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Cute. AIT is also acronym for Advanced Infantry Training. |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-26-03 12:49 PM |
#79 |
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Not |
Warren Stuart |
Sep-26-03 02:16 PM |
#103 |
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Tip o' the hat to any 11B. |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-26-03 04:41 PM |
#138 |
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Where did this notice come from? |
ramblin_dave |
Sep-26-03 10:52 AM |
#8 |
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It was from a Yahoo e-mail account |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 10:58 AM |
#14 |
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Anyone can open a Yahoo account with anyone's name |
PeaceProgProsp |
Sep-26-03 11:03 AM |
#18 |
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Again, I wrote it. |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 05:31 PM |
#150 |
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Whose "memo" is this? BBV's? Confiscated files? By Whom? |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 10:56 AM |
#13 |
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I know people are waiting to hear from me, so... |
DEMActivist |
Sep-26-03 12:39 PM |
#74 |
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WTF?!?!?!?!? |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 12:44 PM |
#77 |
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That's right.... |
DEMActivist |
Sep-26-03 12:50 PM |
#80 |
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Well... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 12:52 PM |
#82 |
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and where are the Democrats? |
lostnfound |
Sep-26-03 01:24 PM |
#90 |
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Missing in Action since |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 01:27 PM |
#91 |
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Thanks for posting Roxanne... now just breathe. |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 01:01 PM |
#87 |
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This is untrue. |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 05:21 PM |
#148 |
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Well done Bev - all those who believe in this cause are behind you |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 05:37 PM |
#153 |
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Diebold and SAIC's Nip/Tuck will NOT stand! |
phoebe |
Sep-26-03 05:42 PM |
#156 |
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Glad (as in tickled pink) to hear you found a lawyer. |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-26-03 06:08 PM |
#162 |
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Great! |
E_Zapata |
Sep-26-03 07:00 PM |
#166 |
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Did I miss something |
scottxyz |
Sep-26-03 07:35 PM |
#169 |
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Yeah, you missed something. |
E_Zapata |
Sep-26-03 07:39 PM |
#170 |
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Oh pulease. Litigious dancing is a well practiced art. |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 07:46 PM |
#174 |
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Don't assume so much about what I have or haven't done |
E_Zapata |
Sep-26-03 08:00 PM |
#177 |
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I'm not assuming anything - care to answer my pointed question? |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 08:03 PM |
#179 |
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No, I do not care to answer your question |
E_Zapata |
Sep-26-03 08:20 PM |
#181 |
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You answered just as expected - you're obviously ignorant on the subject. |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 08:32 PM |
#183 |
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Again, it's not a poker game... |
hunter |
Sep-26-03 07:57 PM |
#176 |
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Question to Bev Harris |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 06:39 AM |
#189 |
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DemActivist did a complete back-up &- I hope Bev reads your post! |
Melinda |
Sep-27-03 10:35 AM |
#200 |
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Diebold will look ridiculous if they try anything against us |
goobergunch |
Sep-26-03 03:17 PM |
#113 |
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Actually |
Trek234 |
Sep-26-03 03:33 PM |
#119 |
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Here, have a cigar! |
hunter |
Sep-26-03 04:10 PM |
#129 |
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I'm sorry bjt that is just uninformed and naive |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 07:13 AM |
#192 |
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I got the same info in an email from Bev. n/t |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:01 AM |
#15 |
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If you go to blackboxvoting.org |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:02 AM |
#17 |
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It's up.. |
didntvote4shrub |
Sep-26-03 11:07 AM |
#20 |
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Hmm. I don't know what you are looking at, |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:12 AM |
#22 |
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.com! |
didntvote4shrub |
Sep-26-03 11:34 AM |
#37 |
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I did to |
knight_of_the_star |
Sep-26-03 02:50 PM |
#110 |
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It looks like the message is legit - same e-mail as the one listed |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 11:18 AM |
#25 |
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SLAPP Action.... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 11:24 AM |
#30 |
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I've only been following this issue, |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:31 AM |
#33 |
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don't let them scare you. This issue is too important. |
alfredo |
Sep-26-03 11:41 AM |
#39 |
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Ah, I'm not scared. |
MGKrebs |
Sep-26-03 11:51 AM |
#44 |
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ditto this too, bring em on!!...n/t |
steviet_2003 |
Sep-26-03 03:41 PM |
#123 |
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ditto here.....n/t |
steviet_2003 |
Sep-26-03 03:39 PM |
#122 |
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Perhaps this is a good thing... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 11:43 AM |
#40 |
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That is what I was thinking. |
MuseRider |
Sep-26-03 11:53 AM |
#47 |
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one problem |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 11:58 AM |
#49 |
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maybe... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 12:01 PM |
#52 |
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Heheh. :-) |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 12:07 PM |
#57 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 12:09 PM |
#58 |
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on the other hand |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:06 PM |
#56 |
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some tactics won't work in court |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 12:09 PM |
#59 |
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but you know, somehow I'd like to see them try anyway |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 12:16 PM |
#62 |
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For the record... |
The Night Owl |
Sep-26-03 02:00 PM |
#98 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 04:41 PM |
#139 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 07:40 PM |
#172 |
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Yes Yes |
seemslikeadream |
Sep-26-03 08:02 PM |
#178 |
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Do you work for Diebold? |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 12:17 PM |
#66 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 12:22 PM |
#69 |
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Now Now... |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 12:26 PM |
#70 |
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They acknowledge the sufficiency of rope themselves, |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-26-03 12:39 PM |
#73 |
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really. |
nostamj |
Sep-26-03 12:40 PM |
#75 |
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well, you're missing some good irony |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 01:01 PM |
#86 |
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Yeah, they don't agree with you, get em outta here! n/t |
jackcgt |
Sep-26-03 02:17 PM |
#104 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 04:04 PM |
#128 |
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he or she has been here since the middle of july |
bearfartinthewoods |
Sep-26-03 04:41 PM |
#140 |
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Don't you remember debating WMD with me back in April and May? |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 04:52 PM |
#143 |
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i've learned alot since then. i should thank you for teaching me. |
bearfartinthewoods |
Sep-26-03 04:59 PM |
#144 |
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Bear - surely you remember her "trists" w/WillPitt last year |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 05:35 PM |
#151 |
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I don't remember that |
Cocoa |
Sep-26-03 05:46 PM |
#159 |
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well my first reply was aimed at tinfoilhat, who's profile list a mid-july |
bearfartinthewoods |
Sep-27-03 08:20 AM |
#194 |
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they'll do something like that |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 10:48 AM |
#204 |
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Cocoa, TinfoilHatProgrammer, wrong game! |
hunter |
Sep-26-03 01:37 PM |
#94 |
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couple of articles about this.... |
janekat |
Sep-26-03 12:16 PM |
#65 |
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So, before Diebold was alleging copyright infringement in their letters... |
AP |
Sep-26-03 12:38 PM |
#72 |
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Apparently they are REALLY feeling the heat and trying every |
janekat |
Sep-26-03 12:53 PM |
#83 |
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CEO of Diebold working for Bush's reelection - Anybody see this before? |
janekat |
Sep-26-03 12:58 PM |
#84 |
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At least they haven't whacked Jim March's site |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 01:00 PM |
#85 |
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Hmmmm, the age of dangerous, unAmerican links. |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-26-03 01:32 PM |
#92 |
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Google, "Jim's DIEBOLD PAGE" and click I'm Feeling Lucky |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 01:35 PM |
#93 |
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Aha! Looks like a work-around to me. |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-26-03 01:42 PM |
#95 |
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Interesting article on Voting Fraud |
janekat |
Sep-26-03 01:14 PM |
#88 |
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I received the same e-mail from Bev also (((((((BUT))))))) |
Tinoire |
Sep-26-03 02:10 PM |
#102 |
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Is it from an aol address? |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 02:20 PM |
#105 |
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Check out the first page you see at |
ftbc |
Sep-26-03 02:24 PM |
#106 |
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The email I received is from AOL, not Yahoo. |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 02:36 PM |
#108 |
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Me too, just got it 15 mins ago. |
steviet_2003 |
Sep-26-03 04:21 PM |
#132 |
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I can not implicictly TRUST the admin of that site |
Tinoire |
Sep-26-03 02:41 PM |
#109 |
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Are you talking about.... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Sep-26-03 03:01 PM |
#111 |
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Yes so I'm frankly confused about this |
Tinoire |
Sep-26-03 03:10 PM |
#112 |
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After reading post 118, below, |
dmr |
Sep-26-03 03:56 PM |
#126 |
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Okay, folks, the Yahoo, the AOL and BBV.org and Talion -- all legit |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 05:41 PM |
#155 |
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My guess (and hope) is that these legal actions |
gristy |
Sep-26-03 03:19 PM |
#114 |
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The more they take and steal the more they must try to hide |
nolabels |
Sep-26-03 03:24 PM |
#115 |
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LATEST NEWS NOW POSTED |
plan9_pub |
Sep-26-03 03:27 PM |
#118 |
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New information (to me, anyways) posted on bbv.org |
gristy |
Sep-26-03 03:38 PM |
#121 |
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Net trace: |
Melinda |
Sep-26-03 04:25 PM |
#135 |
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Someone close to me has been saying for 3 weeks now |
God_bush_n_cheney |
Sep-26-03 05:00 PM |
#145 |
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Thanks for the trace! Hong Kong makes perfect sense, in fact |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 05:59 PM |
#160 |
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Wow. So you can use the DMCA to shut someone down for 10 days with NO... |
AP |
Sep-26-03 03:51 PM |
#125 |
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a couple of questions David |
IkeWarnedUs |
Sep-26-03 04:24 PM |
#133 |
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It sounds like it's down regardless of whether the material is removed |
AP |
Sep-26-03 04:26 PM |
#136 |
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Well, no. |
plan9_pub |
Sep-26-03 05:03 PM |
#146 |
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I could be wrong, but I believe |
AP |
Sep-26-03 06:51 PM |
#164 |
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If I understand correctly |
plan9_pub |
Sep-26-03 04:45 PM |
#141 |
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David... |
Lurking Dem |
Sep-26-03 04:27 PM |
#137 |
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You are very welcome |
plan9_pub |
Sep-26-03 04:46 PM |
#142 |
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ROLFMAO |
Resistance Is Futile |
Sep-26-03 03:34 PM |
#120 |
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ROLFMAO? |
Bud Good |
Sep-26-03 04:24 PM |
#134 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-26-03 05:43 PM |
#157 |
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The DMCA?!?!?!?!?!! How ridiculous. |
HypnoToad |
Sep-26-03 04:16 PM |
#131 |
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This is so depressing to me |
zeemike |
Sep-26-03 05:44 PM |
#158 |
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Hit the message boards |
Bushfire |
Sep-26-03 06:06 PM |
#161 |
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Go to Election Reform Meet-Ups |
IkeWarnedUs |
Sep-26-03 06:37 PM |
#163 |
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Thanks IkeWarnedUs |
WaterDog |
Sep-26-03 07:42 PM |
#173 |
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Unbeleiveable... my guess is that what this is really about |
althecat |
Sep-26-03 07:28 PM |
#167 |
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It was NOT confiscated! |
DEMActivist |
Sep-26-03 07:40 PM |
#171 |
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"confiscated" |
bumbler |
Sep-26-03 08:06 PM |
#180 |
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Even that is not true |
DEMActivist |
Sep-26-03 08:32 PM |
#184 |
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unexpected praise |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-26-03 08:39 PM |
#185 |
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Thanks |
bumbler |
Sep-26-03 08:59 PM |
#186 |
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Indeed the files were confiscated |
BevHarris |
Sep-26-03 09:24 PM |
#187 |
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Bev, you own the domain |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 07:08 AM |
#191 |
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is that information publicly available? |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-03 11:07 AM |
#207 |
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Qui tam! |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 11:14 AM |
#209 |
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why do you constantly disrupt these threads |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-03 11:19 AM |
#211 |
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it's not disrupting |
Cocoa |
Sep-27-03 11:24 AM |
#213 |
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OK, so are you telling me that until... |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 06:50 AM |
#190 |
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That's simply not the case |
DEMActivist |
Sep-27-03 10:43 AM |
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Urgent to DEMactivist |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 08:59 AM |
#195 |
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Let's be clear here |
plan9_pub |
Sep-27-03 09:23 AM |
#196 |
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David, would you do me the favor of answering... |
Romberry |
Sep-27-03 09:41 AM |
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I was unaware there was a backup until |
plan9_pub |
Sep-27-03 10:27 AM |
#199 |
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DemActivist could only have publicly accessible stuff from that site |
AP |
Sep-27-03 10:35 AM |
#201 |
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No. |
DEMActivist |
Sep-27-03 10:51 AM |
#205 |
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a slight clarification, if I may |
TinfoilHatProgrammer |
Sep-27-03 11:32 AM |
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I'm locking this thread, with a comment. |
Skinner |
Sep-27-03 11:28 AM |
#214 |