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Wed Jul-13-05 04:43 AM
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| 105. Seems to be very demanding to be consistent here |
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"Highly speculative conspiracy websites" should not be linked to. OK. For instance, one year ago, there was an intense discussion about the Plame indictments, with many very speculative posts and links to highly speculative websites (like onlinejournal). None of these threads was deleted, even though the quality of the sources and the quality and rigour of the arguments was, on average, not (much) above the threads in question here.
So, the question remains, what is a speculative conspiracy website? If this rule is not enforced consistently, this policy can amount to thought police. Everybody here wanted Rove indicted, so speculation about this in the Plame threads is ok, but speculation about government complicity in the bombings is not ok. That is inconsistent.
And, as a side effect: A strict limitation to "reputable sources" automatically limits the discussion severely, because exposure of government crime -- even though these crimes exist -- will hurt the careers of journalists (see the book "Into the Buzzsaw" by C. Borjesson), so there are only very few reputable sites discussing government crimes like Gladio. But that does not mean that Gladio did not exist, or was not supported by governments.
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| -A few words about the discussion of the London bombing on DU |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 12:56 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification |
DoYouEverWonder |
Jul-12-05 01:03 PM |
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You're welcome. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:08 PM |
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baseless speculation |
liberalmike27 |
Jul-13-05 09:55 AM |
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Are you saying that space aliens DIDN'T cause the Tsunami? |
Goldmund |
Jul-12-05 01:06 PM |
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Now don't put words in my mouth. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:09 PM |
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My bad, chief! |
Goldmund |
Jul-12-05 01:12 PM |
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Bwahahaha!!!! LOL! |
frictionlessO |
Jul-12-05 01:19 PM |
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Yeah, because they're in on it |
Barad Simith |
Jul-12-05 04:05 PM |
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So you want the people out there to think that we think... |
hootinholler |
Jul-12-05 05:19 PM |
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The Catcher in the Rye, Goldmund |
Jara sang |
Jul-12-05 01:13 PM |
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Your point is made thank you. |
proiowadem |
Jul-12-05 01:07 PM |
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Thanks Skinner! |
Walt Starr |
Jul-12-05 01:10 PM |
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Thanks Skinner |
Minstrel Boy |
Jul-12-05 01:15 PM |
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You're welcome. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:17 PM |
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THAT!!! Is all I have been asking for, thank you Skinner.... Thank you |
frictionlessO |
Jul-12-05 01:16 PM |
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"pass off baseless speculation as fact" |
WilliamPitt |
Jul-12-05 01:17 PM |
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Bravo. Sober and superior reasoning as usual. |
greyl |
Jul-12-05 01:21 PM |
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So that explains what you did to the election 2004 forum? |
Nightjock |
Jul-12-05 01:22 PM |
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Whoa. |
Lex |
Jul-12-05 01:24 PM |
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It's a question |
Nightjock |
Jul-12-05 01:32 PM |
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I have never said anything of the sort. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:32 PM |
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ok. |
Nightjock |
Jul-12-05 01:34 PM |
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It seems to me |
bloom |
Jul-12-05 01:22 PM |
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It would be nice to have a list |
Minstrel Boy |
Jul-12-05 01:26 PM |
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We have discussed the possiblity of making such a list available. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:37 PM |
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I think it's a necessity -- IF you don't want to continue to seem |
Eloriel |
Jul-12-05 05:45 PM |
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Worse was the deletion of threads citing only approved sources. |
Minstrel Boy |
Jul-12-05 06:24 PM |
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Yes - I absolutely agree... eom |
bloom |
Jul-12-05 07:07 PM |
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me too |
hiley |
Jul-12-05 07:35 PM |
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I've started a proposed list at this link: |
geek tragedy |
Jul-13-05 12:05 AM |
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and one more thing... |
bloom |
Jul-12-05 01:36 PM |
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I would prefer that this thread not go off topic... |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 01:39 PM |
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I guess I won't tell you then about the creatures |
Cleita |
Jul-12-05 01:25 PM |
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Thanks Skinner. We can all see you gave this a lot of careful thought |
Auntie Bush |
Jul-12-05 01:25 PM |
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"You are welcome to post links to credible mainstream news sources " |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-12-05 01:29 PM |
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BIG thank you, Skinner for shining a light on this! |
nashville_brook |
Jul-12-05 01:30 PM |
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Don't you people get it? Don't you know what this means?!!! |
SteppingRazor |
Jul-12-05 01:32 PM |
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I linked the CBC story and still got moved. |
yurbud |
Jul-12-05 06:18 PM |
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Excellent post yurbud |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-13-05 04:05 AM |
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couldn't agree more |
helderheid |
Jul-13-05 10:46 AM |
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Hear hear. nt |
Taxloss |
Jul-12-05 01:37 PM |
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Thank you. |
beam me up scottie |
Jul-12-05 01:43 PM |
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Thank you Skinner and a list of sites |
hiley |
Jul-12-05 01:52 PM |
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What you say is certainly true, however... |
SteppingRazor |
Jul-12-05 01:57 PM |
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I completely disagree |
Eloriel |
Jul-12-05 06:32 PM |
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You make an excellent point, Eloriel. |
Minstrel Boy |
Jul-12-05 07:02 PM |
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Eloriel |
hiley |
Jul-12-05 07:29 PM |
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Juan Cole???!!! Thats absolutely ludicrous! Juan is extremely careful to |
frictionlessO |
Jul-12-05 08:16 PM |
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He seems OK to me too. n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-12-05 11:56 PM |
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Come on Juan Cole and the CBC ? |
hiley |
Jul-13-05 12:41 AM |
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It was ludicrous and totally unsubstantiated... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jul-13-05 08:37 AM |
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See this is going to be a problem, |
frictionlessO |
Jul-13-05 08:58 AM |
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all a matter of opinion really |
hiley |
Jul-12-05 07:15 PM |
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Classy move Skinner |
Lannes |
Jul-12-05 02:02 PM |
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Many thanks for addressing the issue. n/t |
dzika |
Jul-12-05 02:05 PM |
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Fair enough, but i think the requirement of "mainstream" is to much |
rman |
Jul-12-05 02:08 PM |
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agreed |
helderheid |
Jul-12-05 02:10 PM |
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If some sites can have stuff |
bloom |
Jul-12-05 03:11 PM |
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At the same time, |
Eloriel |
Jul-12-05 07:04 PM |
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I do think that any source or website |
bloom |
Jul-13-05 09:04 AM |
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Yes I choked on the word "mainstream" too |
marions ghost |
Jul-12-05 05:02 PM |
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Information is Power |
omega minimo |
Jul-13-05 01:43 AM |
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Great post what I want to say... |
Sterling |
Jul-13-05 07:46 PM |
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George. The tribe has spoken. |
omega minimo |
Jul-13-05 09:21 PM |
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Thank you x 1000, Skinner |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Jul-12-05 02:09 PM |
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Thank you Skinner for your thoughtful post. |
anarchy1999 |
Jul-12-05 02:14 PM |
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"that place where people believe space aliens cause tsunamis" |
whirlygigspin |
Jul-12-05 02:25 PM |
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excellent point! Thank You! n/t |
pauldp |
Jul-13-05 03:57 PM |
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I'd like to add a Brit thanks, |
mr blur |
Jul-12-05 02:56 PM |
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So don't read them? |
Sterling |
Jul-13-05 07:57 PM |
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I have no desire to dictate what you should discuss |
mr blur |
Jul-15-05 03:35 PM |
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Excellent Skinner. I think people should own up to speculating when |
applegrove |
Jul-12-05 03:05 PM |
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Thanks for letting us keep the tinfoil hats Skinner! |
MadAsHellNewYorker |
Jul-12-05 03:09 PM |
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I applaud your stand on this matter, Skinner. |
robertpaulsen |
Jul-12-05 03:31 PM |
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We approve of Greg Palast. |
Skinner |
Jul-12-05 03:33 PM |
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Wayne Madsen? |
Frederik |
Jul-12-05 07:23 PM |
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is yahoo news acceptable? |
helderheid |
Jul-12-05 08:29 PM |
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kick |
pinto |
Jul-12-05 03:58 PM |
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kick for the afternoon shift n/t |
AZDemDist6 |
Jul-12-05 04:29 PM |
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Yes, thanks. |
donco6 |
Jul-12-05 04:33 PM |
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No problem for me because I am wearing an AFDB |
Jersey Devil |
Jul-12-05 05:02 PM |
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kick |
Moderator |
Jul-12-05 05:36 PM |
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Thanks Skinner |
proud patriot |
Jul-12-05 05:50 PM |
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Good move |
Domitan |
Jul-12-05 05:53 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification. |
screembloodymurder |
Jul-12-05 06:21 PM |
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This is fairer than I expected.... |
SmokingJacket |
Jul-12-05 06:47 PM |
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Good start, but... |
paulthompson |
Jul-12-05 06:53 PM |
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I agree, Paul. |
Eloriel |
Jul-12-05 07:15 PM |
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Yes |
paulthompson |
Jul-12-05 09:42 PM |
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Thank you paulthompson and Eloriel. |
Beam Me Up |
Jul-12-05 10:28 PM |
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I thought that starting threads on LBN did give you a link to the rules |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jul-13-05 07:17 AM |
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Yes, there are rules, but... |
paulthompson |
Jul-13-05 08:00 PM |
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me too n/t |
Swamp Rat |
Jul-12-05 11:53 PM |
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Re: on banning "* posts calling for the overthrow of the government" |
whirlygigspin |
Jul-13-05 01:02 AM |
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I totally agree with you Eloriel |
mtnester |
Jul-13-05 06:49 AM |
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I agree! n/t |
Henny Penny |
Jul-14-05 06:50 AM |
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Thanks Skinner. |
NoSheep |
Jul-12-05 07:58 PM |
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A little kick to the top of the page... |
Technowitch |
Jul-12-05 08:08 PM |
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Thank you |
ZombyWoof |
Jul-12-05 08:12 PM |
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Well, he may not have engineered the earthquakes... |
Maddy McCall |
Jul-12-05 08:17 PM |
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May a school of frozen salmon... |
ZombyWoof |
Jul-12-05 08:25 PM |
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I'm headed out to fire up the grill right now. |
Maddy McCall |
Jul-12-05 08:27 PM |
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Make sure to wrap that salmon in tinfoil! |
ZombyWoof |
Jul-12-05 08:32 PM |
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Thank you n/t |
etherealtruth |
Jul-12-05 08:20 PM |
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Conspiracy theory??? |
Nimble_Idea |
Jul-12-05 08:39 PM |
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It wasn't aliens |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Jul-12-05 11:23 PM |
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It might be good to make a partial list... |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-12-05 08:59 PM |
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Yes. Ghettoizing independent inquiry and any other form of thoughtcrime |
stickdog |
Jul-13-05 02:49 AM |
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Im not sure what that is supposed to mean? |
Endangered Specie |
Jul-13-05 03:50 PM |
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BLACKLIST? |
woosh |
Jul-14-05 05:49 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Jul-12-05 09:02 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-12-05 09:42 PM |
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Another problem |
paulthompson |
Jul-12-05 10:19 PM |
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Good post |
fujiyama |
Jul-13-05 12:29 AM |
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THANK YOU |
helderheid |
Jul-13-05 11:32 AM |
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Thank you Paul |
JackRiddler |
Jul-13-05 02:41 PM |
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I agree |
paulthompson |
Jul-13-05 07:28 PM |
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But let's be more optimistic |
JackRiddler |
Jul-13-05 08:15 PM |
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kick |
pinto |
Jul-12-05 10:49 PM |
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Good Msg Skinner... |
rasputin1952 |
Jul-13-05 12:02 AM |
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Jul-13-05 01:49 AM |
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Karl Rove is a living, breathing conspiracy theory. |
stickdog |
Jul-13-05 02:05 AM |
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and thanks for yours! |
lonestarnot |
Jul-13-05 02:33 AM |
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Thank you Skinner, great post. But I must say, people who ask questions |
pauldp |
Jul-13-05 02:40 AM |
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On the same topic: If we decide upfront that our dear Western leaders are |
stickdog |
Jul-13-05 03:00 AM |
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That is what this adds up to unfortunately. |
Sterling |
Jul-13-05 08:05 PM |
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Very good point! (n/t) |
ROH |
Jul-13-05 05:43 AM |
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excellent point! |
Minstrel Boy |
Jul-13-05 03:19 PM |
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Seems to be very demanding to be consistent here |
gandalf |
Jul-13-05 04:43 AM |
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This reminds me of some of the emails I've gotten |
symbolman |
Jul-13-05 04:59 AM |
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I'm new posting here |
zoids |
Jul-13-05 06:58 AM |
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Yes that is a great idea , lets make this place some where |
Sterling |
Jul-13-05 08:01 PM |
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Hey, thanks for the warm welcome |
zoids |
Jul-14-05 04:36 PM |
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I don't really see the need to coddle them at all at this point. |
Sterling |
Jul-15-05 08:38 AM |
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Skinner, that was great. It is so good to get words from the horse's mouth |
King Coal |
Jul-13-05 07:40 AM |
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Kick |
southlandshari |
Jul-13-05 08:58 AM |
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My 2 cents |
dogday |
Jul-13-05 09:42 AM |
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kick |
DemExpat |
Jul-13-05 10:40 AM |
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Corporate sponsored speculation is OK |
JackieO |
Jul-13-05 12:09 PM |
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Agree |
gandalf |
Jul-13-05 03:43 PM |
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Hallelujah! Thank you. Especially in light of the fact that |
Colorado Blue |
Jul-13-05 01:44 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
Sterling |
Jul-13-05 08:14 PM |
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For Any Who May Have Missed This |
The Magistrate |
Jul-13-05 03:03 PM |
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Thanks, I did. n/t |
redqueen |
Jul-13-05 03:59 PM |
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You job is more difficult than some of us imagine, sir, respect to you. |
baby_mouse |
Jul-13-05 08:37 PM |
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Kick for the mods |
paulthompson |
Jul-15-05 01:55 AM |
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kick |
JackieO |
Jul-15-05 02:43 PM |
#145 |