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108. I have just come around to the belief that Bush didn't actually win.
To many things just don't add up and the explanations for discrepancies in voting and polls are lacking. We already have documented disenfranchisement in Ohio. Now we have the Ohio coin -gate. I know there was a lot of aid money sent to just about anyone who asked in Florida after the hurricane's. I read they were taking applications at fast food restaurants and aid money was received within 24 hours without a waiting period. The one article I remember reading in Newsweek,right after the election, pertained to Karen Hughes preparing to sit the president down to tell him he lost, and Rove telling her to hold off, because he had a feeling their numbers were going to come in later. I often go back to this statement, in my mind, when I'm angry people couldn't see through the Bush campaign bullsh*t.(I'll be happy to provide a link once I relocate it).
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  -A simple question: Do you believe Bush stole the 2004 election? TruthIsAll  Jul-10-05 08:42 AM   #0 
  - Ask the same question about the 2000 vote  whistle   Jul-10-05 08:43 AM   #1 
  - bu$h didn't not do it. He does not have enough functioning brain cells.  RC   Jul-10-05 08:49 AM   #4 
     - Exactly. Question should be, "Do you think the *GOP* stole it?"!  checks-n-balances   Jul-10-05 02:17 PM   #65 
  - YES. 2000 AND 2004. n/t  in_cog_ni_to   Jul-10-05 08:45 AM   #2 
  - yep  barb162   Jul-10-05 09:48 AM   #7 
  - Yes - in 2000 and 2004  Cerridwen   Jul-10-05 08:47 AM   #3 
  - Yup. Both.  iconoclastic cat   Jul-10-05 11:57 AM   #31 
  - I believe there was definately fraud.  mutley_r_us   Jul-10-05 08:53 AM   #5 
  - Agreed...fraud, but probably not enough  formernaderite   Jul-10-05 10:23 AM   #13 
  - Kick for more votes.  TruthIsAll   Jul-10-05 09:45 AM   #6 
  - I don't know  Retired AF Dem   Jul-10-05 09:53 AM   #8 
  - Not a doubt in my mind it was fraud  Greybnk48   Jul-10-05 09:58 AM   #9 
  - so where are the many DUers who believe Bush won? n/t  LSK   Jul-10-05 10:05 AM   #10 
  - fraWd.  peekaloo   Jul-10-05 10:08 AM   #11 
  - I believe they stole it = absolutely!  goclark   Jul-10-05 10:10 AM   #12 
  - Voter disenfranchisement in Ohio was shameful  AlwaysDemocrat   Jul-10-05 10:25 AM   #15 
  - Insider Info?  BushFungus   Jul-10-05 10:24 AM   #14 
  - You are going to love DU!  blondeatlast   Jul-10-05 10:29 AM   #17 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-05 03:22 PM   #77 
  - 2000 absolutely, 2004 I don't know.  stpalm   Jul-10-05 10:28 AM   #16 
  - How many links to those "liberal publications" do you need?  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 11:26 AM   #26 
     - I haven't seen any, besides one on Salon (I think) NT  stpalm   Jul-10-05 11:35 AM   #29 
        - Here is a start:  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 12:01 PM   #33 
           - interesting....  stpalm   Jul-11-05 09:45 AM   #104 
  - Other: Yes, Bush stole 2004; No, the exit polls prove doodlysquat  foo_bar   Jul-10-05 11:11 AM   #18 
  - I agree it was more disenfrachisement than anything else  ccbombs   Jul-10-05 03:29 PM   #79 
  - What difference does it make if it was legitimate?  dddem   Jul-10-05 11:11 AM   #19 
  - What I think doesn't really matter without actinable proof. nt  bilgewaterbill   Jul-10-05 01:39 PM   #56 
  - and how easy it was to steal both the electoral but also the popular  helderheid   Jul-10-05 11:15 AM   #20 
  - Rove, not Bush  undeterred   Jul-10-05 11:16 AM   #21 
  - Wow  LincolnMcGrath   Jul-10-05 11:17 AM   #22 
  - There's fraud in every national election. Not enough in this case.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Jul-10-05 11:21 AM   #23 
  - Can't vote in this poll  Walt Starr   Jul-10-05 11:22 AM   #24 
  - Agree. For stolen election look to 2000!  valniel   Jul-11-05 08:11 AM   #102 
  - Yep! I'm with Rep. Conyers :)  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 11:24 AM   #25 
  - Conyers never asserted the election was stolen  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 11:57 AM   #32 
     - Ummm, Cocoa, he wrote a book about it.  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 01:03 PM   #45 
        - but he never asserts the election was stolen  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 01:23 PM   #51 
           - I have the book.  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 01:26 PM   #52 
           - most of it  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 01:30 PM   #54 
              - Here is something else  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 01:38 PM   #55 
                 - you posted a blurb and a joke  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 01:47 PM   #59 
                    - A joke? You've got to be kidding.  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 01:56 PM   #62 
                       - if this isn't distancing, then nothing is  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 02:04 PM   #64 
                          - I guess he was trying to distance himself with an investigation  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 02:19 PM   #66 
                             - Conyers is explicit about what his investigation was and was NOT about  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 02:25 PM   #68 
                                - Oh, Cocoa! I've seen the way you operate  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 02:37 PM   #69 
                                   - when talking about Conyers's position, I post Conyers's words  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 02:49 PM   #71 
                                      - Yeah, and I did, too!  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 03:21 PM   #76 
                                         - you posted your words  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 03:25 PM   #78 
                                            - Bullshit! Read post 78 again. Those aren't my words.  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 03:30 PM   #80 
           - but he does provide insight into the abuse and manipulation  rman   Jul-11-05 06:50 AM   #99 
  - This clearly a no brainer. The neo cons been stealing elections  B Calm   Jul-10-05 11:26 AM   #27 
  - No, I'm with John Conyers  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 11:33 AM   #28 
  - Don't assume that John Conyers Jr. doesn't think it was stolen, he is a  dandrhesse   Jul-10-05 12:23 PM   #37 
  - not just his own credibility  Cocoa   Jul-10-05 12:43 PM   #39 
     - you bet and we should all take notes on how he approaches and issue, it is  dandrhesse   Jul-10-05 01:02 PM   #44 
  - Read post 45 above.  MelissaB   Jul-10-05 01:19 PM   #49 
  - Once again: There is absolutely no legitimate reason to force voters  Zorra   Jul-10-05 11:45 AM   #30 
  - Hell yeah!!!!!!  Jim Sagle   Jul-10-05 12:05 PM   #34 
  - I think the Bush team started stealing the 2004 vote back in 2000  derby378   Jul-10-05 12:10 PM   #35 
  - yes, starting with the 2000 appointment, the rigged midterms in 2006 and  dandrhesse   Jul-10-05 12:20 PM   #36 
  - Yes..via crooked voting commissioners  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-10-05 12:25 PM   #38 
  - It wasn't fixed. We lost Ohio because we got outhustled in Southern Ohio.  The Blue Knight   Jul-10-05 12:48 PM   #40 
     - So you missed those long lines wrapped around the blocks in Dem  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jul-10-05 12:51 PM   #42 
     - with all due respect,  dddem   Jul-10-05 03:39 PM   #81 
  - I would rephrase the question...  sendero   Jul-10-05 12:49 PM   #41 
  - Stole in 2004 and given to him in 2000, the man is a born loser, the  candy331   Jul-10-05 12:57 PM   #43 
  - If you steal something (say, 2000 election!) and get away with it...  LuCifer   Jul-10-05 01:05 PM   #46 
  - There was fraud & we don't know how much.  rucky   Jul-10-05 01:06 PM   #47 
  - YES... Absofuckinglutely! If you voted no then you are seriously mis-  In Truth We Trust   Jul-10-05 01:07 PM   #48 
  - No rDUr here--Who the heck are those 4 people (hunky dorey).  autorank   Jul-10-05 01:22 PM   #50 
  - Blackwell, "Evidence? Right under my butt?" .....  Tigress DEM   Jul-10-05 01:51 PM   #61 
     - Nobody's said it better. This is great...  autorank   Jul-10-05 02:04 PM   #63 
     - cya at the 9/24/05 party!!!  autorank   Jul-11-05 04:45 PM   #116 
  - They did they same thing during the 2002 elections...look at the polls...  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-10-05 01:29 PM   #53 
  - No mother fucking...  Hepburn   Jul-10-05 01:40 PM   #57 
  - Yes,  countingbluecars   Jul-10-05 01:43 PM   #58 
  - Ken Blackwell was the one with "dirty hands" but no question about it.  Tigress DEM   Jul-10-05 01:49 PM   #60 
  - More accurately: his handlers stole it  Behind the Aegis   Jul-10-05 02:22 PM   #67 
  - man, TIA -- it's great seeing this info outside of the election forum!  nashville_brook   Jul-10-05 02:42 PM   #70 
  - I'll even kick it for you...  TruthIsAll   Jul-11-05 04:19 PM   #115 
     - it was all the amazing work in the election forum that made a member  nashville_brook   Jul-11-05 09:38 PM   #117 
  - Yes, the election was stolen.  Blue in Portland   Jul-10-05 03:00 PM   #72 
  - I have very deep suspicions that Bush/Rove rigged the election  deutsey   Jul-10-05 03:02 PM   #73 
  - exit polls  WinkyDink   Jul-10-05 03:05 PM   #74 
  - My answer is simple  Mythsaje   Jul-10-05 03:15 PM   #75 
  - They stole it by stealing hearts & minds - and some tricky games  applegrove   Jul-10-05 03:40 PM   #82 
  - This needs kicked too.  vickiss   Jul-10-05 04:22 PM   #83 
  - I do not believe Kerry won the popular vote...  kentuck   Jul-10-05 04:24 PM   #84 
  - 90% yes  helderheid   Jul-10-05 04:58 PM   #85 
  - The evidence is overwhelming  tommcintyre   Jul-10-05 05:25 PM   #86 
  - No doubt about it  vanboggie   Jul-10-05 05:45 PM   #87 
  - Yes.  Stand and Fight   Jul-10-05 07:20 PM   #88 
  - It was stolen in Ohio--just look how corrupt Ohio is.... n/t  deacon   Jul-10-05 07:46 PM   #89 
  - I believe to the depth of my being that * & cabal stole the elections in  OhGodNotAgain   Jul-10-05 08:09 PM   #90 
  - .  helderheid   Jul-10-05 10:48 PM   #91 
  - Do I believe that, for the first time ever, the exit polls were wrong?  txindy   Jul-10-05 11:10 PM   #92 
  - YES  lala_rawraw   Jul-11-05 12:20 AM   #93 
  - Yes, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind.  AuntPatsy   Jul-11-05 12:22 AM   #94 
  - Of course it was stolen--and it was on national TV for all to see.  Ojai Person   Jul-11-05 02:59 AM   #95 
  - Of course it was stolen. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-11-05 04:01 AM   #96 
  - Why does the republican party fight for no paper trail?  B Calm   Jul-11-05 05:37 AM   #97 
  - Why don't the democrats, other than Conyer's, ask them?  TruthIsAll   Jul-11-05 06:43 AM   #98 
  - I'd bet the farm that it was stolen.  Old and In the Way   Jul-11-05 07:27 AM   #100 
  - Actually, it was Bush 62-59mm (official) but Kerry really won by 63-58mm..  TruthIsAll   Jul-11-05 08:11 AM   #101 
     - I stand corrected, TIA  Old and In the Way   Jul-11-05 09:27 AM   #103 
  - yes  Neecy   Jul-11-05 09:55 AM   #105 
  - So sure that I closed my business of 17+ years to investigate + work on  mod mom   Jul-11-05 10:30 AM   #106 
  - Mr. PseudoMath strikes again!  ArkDem   Jul-11-05 10:33 AM   #107 
  - I have just come around to the belief that Bush didn't actually win.  second edition   Jul-11-05 10:52 AM   #108 
  - I wonder - the people who vote "no"  bloom   Jul-11-05 11:08 AM   #109 
  - Yes, stolen.  ThruTheLookingGlass   Jul-11-05 11:10 AM   #110 
  - I can't vote in this poll  Walt Starr   Jul-11-05 11:16 AM   #111 
  - Fraud yes, theft? Dunno.  Lilith Velkor   Jul-11-05 11:45 AM   #112 
  - What's the purpose of fraud, then? Is it just a game?  TruthIsAll   Jul-12-05 09:28 AM   #118 
     - The purpose is to sow confusion.  Lilith Velkor   Jul-12-05 12:10 PM   #121 
  - 2000, 2002, & 2004. n/t  Al-CIAda   Jul-11-05 11:51 AM   #113 
  - I absolutely believe it, both in 2004 and 2000.  Rhiannon12866   Jul-11-05 12:53 PM   #114 
  - Why are there so few votes?  lyberyl_prygryssyve   Jul-12-05 09:37 AM   #119 
     - YES  on the EDGE   Jul-12-05 09:52 AM   #120 
 

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