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Sun Jul-10-05 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #12 |
| 15. Voter disenfranchisement in Ohio was shameful |
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I'm still shocked that no MSM paid the least bit of attention to what happened there and in other places.
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| -A simple question: Do you believe Bush stole the 2004 election? |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-10-05 08:42 AM |
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Ask the same question about the 2000 vote |
whistle |
Jul-10-05 08:43 AM |
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bu$h didn't not do it. He does not have enough functioning brain cells. |
RC |
Jul-10-05 08:49 AM |
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Exactly. Question should be, "Do you think the *GOP* stole it?"! |
checks-n-balances |
Jul-10-05 02:17 PM |
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YES. 2000 AND 2004. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jul-10-05 08:45 AM |
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yep |
barb162 |
Jul-10-05 09:48 AM |
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Yes - in 2000 and 2004 |
Cerridwen |
Jul-10-05 08:47 AM |
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Yup. Both. |
iconoclastic cat |
Jul-10-05 11:57 AM |
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I believe there was definately fraud. |
mutley_r_us |
Jul-10-05 08:53 AM |
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Agreed...fraud, but probably not enough |
formernaderite |
Jul-10-05 10:23 AM |
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Kick for more votes. |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-10-05 09:45 AM |
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I don't know |
Retired AF Dem |
Jul-10-05 09:53 AM |
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Not a doubt in my mind it was fraud |
Greybnk48 |
Jul-10-05 09:58 AM |
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so where are the many DUers who believe Bush won? n/t |
LSK |
Jul-10-05 10:05 AM |
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fraWd. |
peekaloo |
Jul-10-05 10:08 AM |
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I believe they stole it = absolutely! |
goclark |
Jul-10-05 10:10 AM |
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Voter disenfranchisement in Ohio was shameful |
AlwaysDemocrat |
Jul-10-05 10:25 AM |
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Insider Info? |
BushFungus |
Jul-10-05 10:24 AM |
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You are going to love DU! |
blondeatlast |
Jul-10-05 10:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-10-05 03:22 PM |
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2000 absolutely, 2004 I don't know. |
stpalm |
Jul-10-05 10:28 AM |
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How many links to those "liberal publications" do you need? |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 11:26 AM |
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I haven't seen any, besides one on Salon (I think) NT |
stpalm |
Jul-10-05 11:35 AM |
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Here is a start: |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 12:01 PM |
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interesting.... |
stpalm |
Jul-11-05 09:45 AM |
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Other: Yes, Bush stole 2004; No, the exit polls prove doodlysquat |
foo_bar |
Jul-10-05 11:11 AM |
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I agree it was more disenfrachisement than anything else |
ccbombs |
Jul-10-05 03:29 PM |
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What difference does it make if it was legitimate? |
dddem |
Jul-10-05 11:11 AM |
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What I think doesn't really matter without actinable proof. nt |
bilgewaterbill |
Jul-10-05 01:39 PM |
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and how easy it was to steal both the electoral but also the popular |
helderheid |
Jul-10-05 11:15 AM |
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Rove, not Bush |
undeterred |
Jul-10-05 11:16 AM |
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Wow |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jul-10-05 11:17 AM |
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There's fraud in every national election. Not enough in this case. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jul-10-05 11:21 AM |
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Can't vote in this poll |
Walt Starr |
Jul-10-05 11:22 AM |
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Agree. For stolen election look to 2000! |
valniel |
Jul-11-05 08:11 AM |
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Yep! I'm with Rep. Conyers :) |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 11:24 AM |
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Conyers never asserted the election was stolen |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 11:57 AM |
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Ummm, Cocoa, he wrote a book about it. |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 01:03 PM |
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but he never asserts the election was stolen |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 01:23 PM |
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I have the book. |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 01:26 PM |
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most of it |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 01:30 PM |
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Here is something else |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 01:38 PM |
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you posted a blurb and a joke |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 01:47 PM |
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A joke? You've got to be kidding. |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 01:56 PM |
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if this isn't distancing, then nothing is |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 02:04 PM |
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I guess he was trying to distance himself with an investigation |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 02:19 PM |
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Conyers is explicit about what his investigation was and was NOT about |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 02:25 PM |
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Oh, Cocoa! I've seen the way you operate |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 02:37 PM |
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when talking about Conyers's position, I post Conyers's words |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 02:49 PM |
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Yeah, and I did, too! |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 03:21 PM |
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you posted your words |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 03:25 PM |
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Bullshit! Read post 78 again. Those aren't my words. |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 03:30 PM |
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but he does provide insight into the abuse and manipulation |
rman |
Jul-11-05 06:50 AM |
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This clearly a no brainer. The neo cons been stealing elections |
B Calm |
Jul-10-05 11:26 AM |
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No, I'm with John Conyers |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 11:33 AM |
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Don't assume that John Conyers Jr. doesn't think it was stolen, he is a |
dandrhesse |
Jul-10-05 12:23 PM |
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not just his own credibility |
Cocoa |
Jul-10-05 12:43 PM |
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you bet and we should all take notes on how he approaches and issue, it is |
dandrhesse |
Jul-10-05 01:02 PM |
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Read post 45 above. |
MelissaB |
Jul-10-05 01:19 PM |
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Once again: There is absolutely no legitimate reason to force voters |
Zorra |
Jul-10-05 11:45 AM |
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Hell yeah!!!!!! |
Jim Sagle |
Jul-10-05 12:05 PM |
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I think the Bush team started stealing the 2004 vote back in 2000 |
derby378 |
Jul-10-05 12:10 PM |
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yes, starting with the 2000 appointment, the rigged midterms in 2006 and |
dandrhesse |
Jul-10-05 12:20 PM |
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Yes..via crooked voting commissioners |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Jul-10-05 12:25 PM |
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It wasn't fixed. We lost Ohio because we got outhustled in Southern Ohio. |
The Blue Knight |
Jul-10-05 12:48 PM |
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So you missed those long lines wrapped around the blocks in Dem |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Jul-10-05 12:51 PM |
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with all due respect, |
dddem |
Jul-10-05 03:39 PM |
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I would rephrase the question... |
sendero |
Jul-10-05 12:49 PM |
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Stole in 2004 and given to him in 2000, the man is a born loser, the |
candy331 |
Jul-10-05 12:57 PM |
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If you steal something (say, 2000 election!) and get away with it... |
LuCifer |
Jul-10-05 01:05 PM |
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There was fraud & we don't know how much. |
rucky |
Jul-10-05 01:06 PM |
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YES... Absofuckinglutely! If you voted no then you are seriously mis- |
In Truth We Trust |
Jul-10-05 01:07 PM |
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No rDUr here--Who the heck are those 4 people (hunky dorey). |
autorank |
Jul-10-05 01:22 PM |
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Blackwell, "Evidence? Right under my butt?" ..... |
Tigress DEM |
Jul-10-05 01:51 PM |
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Nobody's said it better. This is great... |
autorank |
Jul-10-05 02:04 PM |
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cya at the 9/24/05 party!!! |
autorank |
Jul-11-05 04:45 PM |
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They did they same thing during the 2002 elections...look at the polls... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 01:29 PM |
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No mother fucking... |
Hepburn |
Jul-10-05 01:40 PM |
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Yes, |
countingbluecars |
Jul-10-05 01:43 PM |
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Ken Blackwell was the one with "dirty hands" but no question about it. |
Tigress DEM |
Jul-10-05 01:49 PM |
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More accurately: his handlers stole it |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-10-05 02:22 PM |
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man, TIA -- it's great seeing this info outside of the election forum! |
nashville_brook |
Jul-10-05 02:42 PM |
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I'll even kick it for you... |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-11-05 04:19 PM |
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it was all the amazing work in the election forum that made a member |
nashville_brook |
Jul-11-05 09:38 PM |
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Yes, the election was stolen. |
Blue in Portland |
Jul-10-05 03:00 PM |
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I have very deep suspicions that Bush/Rove rigged the election |
deutsey |
Jul-10-05 03:02 PM |
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exit polls |
WinkyDink |
Jul-10-05 03:05 PM |
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My answer is simple |
Mythsaje |
Jul-10-05 03:15 PM |
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They stole it by stealing hearts & minds - and some tricky games |
applegrove |
Jul-10-05 03:40 PM |
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This needs kicked too. |
vickiss |
Jul-10-05 04:22 PM |
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I do not believe Kerry won the popular vote... |
kentuck |
Jul-10-05 04:24 PM |
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90% yes |
helderheid |
Jul-10-05 04:58 PM |
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The evidence is overwhelming |
tommcintyre |
Jul-10-05 05:25 PM |
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No doubt about it |
vanboggie |
Jul-10-05 05:45 PM |
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Yes. |
Stand and Fight |
Jul-10-05 07:20 PM |
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It was stolen in Ohio--just look how corrupt Ohio is.... n/t |
deacon |
Jul-10-05 07:46 PM |
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I believe to the depth of my being that * & cabal stole the elections in |
OhGodNotAgain |
Jul-10-05 08:09 PM |
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. |
helderheid |
Jul-10-05 10:48 PM |
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Do I believe that, for the first time ever, the exit polls were wrong? |
txindy |
Jul-10-05 11:10 PM |
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YES |
lala_rawraw |
Jul-11-05 12:20 AM |
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Yes, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind. |
AuntPatsy |
Jul-11-05 12:22 AM |
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Of course it was stolen--and it was on national TV for all to see. |
Ojai Person |
Jul-11-05 02:59 AM |
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Of course it was stolen. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jul-11-05 04:01 AM |
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Why does the republican party fight for no paper trail? |
B Calm |
Jul-11-05 05:37 AM |
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Why don't the democrats, other than Conyer's, ask them? |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-11-05 06:43 AM |
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I'd bet the farm that it was stolen. |
Old and In the Way |
Jul-11-05 07:27 AM |
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Actually, it was Bush 62-59mm (official) but Kerry really won by 63-58mm.. |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-11-05 08:11 AM |
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I stand corrected, TIA |
Old and In the Way |
Jul-11-05 09:27 AM |
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yes |
Neecy |
Jul-11-05 09:55 AM |
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So sure that I closed my business of 17+ years to investigate + work on |
mod mom |
Jul-11-05 10:30 AM |
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Mr. PseudoMath strikes again! |
ArkDem |
Jul-11-05 10:33 AM |
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I have just come around to the belief that Bush didn't actually win. |
second edition |
Jul-11-05 10:52 AM |
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I wonder - the people who vote "no" |
bloom |
Jul-11-05 11:08 AM |
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Yes, stolen. |
ThruTheLookingGlass |
Jul-11-05 11:10 AM |
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I can't vote in this poll |
Walt Starr |
Jul-11-05 11:16 AM |
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Fraud yes, theft? Dunno. |
Lilith Velkor |
Jul-11-05 11:45 AM |
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What's the purpose of fraud, then? Is it just a game? |
TruthIsAll |
Jul-12-05 09:28 AM |
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The purpose is to sow confusion. |
Lilith Velkor |
Jul-12-05 12:10 PM |
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2000, 2002, & 2004. n/t |
Al-CIAda |
Jul-11-05 11:51 AM |
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I absolutely believe it, both in 2004 and 2000. |
Rhiannon12866 |
Jul-11-05 12:53 PM |
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Why are there so few votes? |
lyberyl_prygryssyve |
Jul-12-05 09:37 AM |
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YES |
on the EDGE |
Jul-12-05 09:52 AM |
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