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leanin_green Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #109
110. Yes, and conservative.
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 06:04 PM by leanin_green
Capricorn is archetypically ruled by Saturn. Saturn deals, in its negative manifestations, with fear, guilt, rigidity and resistance to change, authoritarianism and the infallible state, ect. Positively; maturity, social responsibility, right use of authority, creation of public institutions based on integrity and the will to protect society. Fatherly instincts of protection, support and positive social role models. Security.
You have to remember, orthodoxy manifests due to the vision revealed in the Sagittarian archetype. It is the human need to bring form and a workable structure on earth for the new vision to operate through. Consider the original Christian message and vision in the 1st century and the natural progression into the Church, for example. Capricorn stresses caution to the fiery Sagittarian vision. Saturn has a way of putting on the brakes before anyone can run away and create chaos. Can you see where I'm going with this? As a society, we Americans could be handed a new vision from some quarter that ignites our dreams and stirs us to create and give form to the new vision(Sagittarius). However, we run smack up against a resistant system that tries to suppress, harass, and put down the new vision. How long do you think that system, institutions, and social structure could stand against the will of the people? Especially, given America's history of violent change. Remember your history? When the message and vision of Christ stirred the hearts of men? It took awhile, but Rome did fall. Is America so unlike Rome?
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  -ESSENTIALLY, AMERICANS HAVE LOST FAITH. leanin_green  Jul-09-05 03:26 PM   #0 
  - You make some good points...  Mythsaje   Jul-09-05 03:30 PM   #1 
  - We have accumulated tons of national Karma, both good and bad,  4MoronicYears   Jul-09-05 03:30 PM   #2 
  - Edgar was cool. Check out this site.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 05:28 PM   #12 
  - Now here's an interesting bit of synchronicity.  Raksha   Jul-10-05 02:47 AM   #57 
     - What if we--the much-maligned "bleeding heart liberals" here at DU  4MoronicYears   Jul-10-05 03:01 PM   #87 
  - The Pessimism is well founded, peak oil is real  wuushew   Jul-09-05 03:33 PM   #3 
  - yea and what about the fucking polar bears all dieing out in 30 years  natrat   Jul-09-05 07:21 PM   #17 
  - There you go!  MadisonProgressive   Jul-09-05 08:33 PM   #19 
  - Natural process is fine but we are sentient creative beings  brindis_desala   Jul-09-05 03:40 PM   #4 
  - We should adapt these ideas to help keep our focus.  Democrats_win   Jul-09-05 03:58 PM   #7 
  - Sentient, yes. Creative, absolutely.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 05:46 PM   #13 
  - thank you for these words  knowbody0   Jul-09-05 03:52 PM   #5 
  - It is going on all over the world....for many, many months now,  Gloria   Jul-09-05 03:57 PM   #6 
  - Yes, and further. . .  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 06:38 PM   #16 
  - I gave a short talk on Pluto in Sagittarius last night  SpiralHawk   Jul-09-05 04:11 PM   #8 
  - Interesting. I know nothing whatsoever about...  newswolf56   Jul-09-05 04:18 PM   #9 
  - So how long will this go on?  skooooo   Jul-09-05 04:19 PM   #10 
  - Well,  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 06:00 PM   #14 
  - I don't exactly have an answer for you..  housewolf   Jul-10-05 12:27 AM   #42 
     - Housewolf, you might like this site.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:49 AM   #46 
  - "HAVE FAITH IN THE PROCESS. "  housewolf   Jul-09-05 04:54 PM   #11 
  - So, with your thoughts in mind. . .  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 06:17 PM   #15 
     - What about the day after?  Zorbuddha   Jul-09-05 08:27 PM   #18 
     - Questions and thoughts ...  housewolf   Jul-09-05 10:19 PM   #27 
        - Well said, and I would add this.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:14 PM   #28 
           - I love this conversation!  housewolf   Jul-10-05 12:01 AM   #36 
              - My calling?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:05 AM   #38 
                 - worthy goal  marions ghost   Jul-10-05 09:05 AM   #60 
  - Why Would Planets And Stars Care The Lifeforms On This Planet?  arwalden   Jul-09-05 08:44 PM   #20 
  - no doubt- this planet is an overloaded freight train out of control  natrat   Jul-09-05 09:14 PM   #22 
  - Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by  Wonk   Jul-09-05 09:57 PM   #26 
  - Another Special Group: "Astrology, Spirituality & Alternative Healing"  arwalden   Jul-10-05 05:57 AM   #58 
  - Keep reading further.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:07 AM   #39 
  - Why? What Will I Find? Why Not Just Respond Directly...  arwalden   Jul-10-05 06:00 AM   #59 
  - Allen, Go Read Some Jung On The Collective Unconscious.  cryingshame   Jul-10-05 09:23 AM   #62 
  - You Beg Me? Oh Brother!  arwalden   Jul-10-05 11:52 AM   #67 
     - And yet you persist here, why?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:05 PM   #75 
        - Well, Leanin_Green...  arwalden   Jul-10-05 02:24 PM   #78 
           - Alright arwalden, I respect that.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:34 PM   #82 
  - They don't....  sendero   Jul-10-05 10:09 AM   #64 
     - If This Were True Then It Could Be Demonstrated...  arwalden   Jul-10-05 11:53 AM   #68 
        - It's hard to call anything..  sendero   Jul-10-05 12:01 PM   #69 
           - Either It's Real Or It's Not.  arwalden   Jul-10-05 12:14 PM   #70 
              - Oh thanks for that..  sendero   Jul-10-05 12:16 PM   #71 
                 - You're Welcome.  arwalden   Jul-10-05 12:23 PM   #72 
                    - Especially...  sendero   Jul-10-05 12:26 PM   #73 
                       - Sendero... You Cut Me To The Quick! I Understand It Perfectly.  arwalden   Jul-10-05 12:34 PM   #74 
  - thank you for your post...  bridgit   Jul-09-05 09:07 PM   #21 
  - Thank you bridgit  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:55 AM   #50 
  - What happened the last time Pluto was in Sagittarius?  Bill McBlueState   Jul-09-05 09:16 PM   #23 
  - Does that which has yet to be discovered cease to exist?  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:37 PM   #30 
  - Sadly, the perfect mathematical principles don't appear to govern  Heaven and Earth   Jul-09-05 11:51 PM   #34 
     - Well, there is Caos Therory!  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:01 AM   #37 
  - A quick Google says Pluto was discovered in 1930.  gulliver   Jul-10-05 12:49 AM   #47 
     - I Guess That Means That All Astrological Charts Prior To 1930 Were WRONG!  arwalden   Jul-10-05 02:32 PM   #81 
        - Actually, it's much older than that.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:39 PM   #84 
           - A Trivial And Inconsequential Point...  arwalden   Jul-10-05 02:59 PM   #85 
  - In what other periods of history was...  newswolf56   Jul-09-05 09:28 PM   #24 
  - Very nice! Read post #30 to answer historical periods.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:41 PM   #31 
  - Very nice! Read post #30 to answer historical periods.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:42 PM   #32 
     - Sorry I never heard of Jeffrey Wolf Green; am merely...  newswolf56   Jul-10-05 12:40 AM   #44 
        - Ah yes, the Druid.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:45 AM   #45 
           - I think the Muse speaks in a singular voice...  newswolf56   Jul-10-05 12:58 AM   #51 
           - The name Stringfellow is, as you say, English  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-10-05 07:41 PM   #91 
              - And where did the English originate?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 09:50 PM   #93 
              - 'English' comes from 'Angle', who came over with the Saxons  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-11-05 05:48 AM   #97 
                 - My ancestry traces back to Cornwall  leanin_green   Jul-11-05 01:08 PM   #101 
                    - Nevertheless, a claim that 'Stringfellow' links you with the Druids  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-11-05 03:32 PM   #102 
                       - I can accept your critique.  leanin_green   Jul-11-05 07:25 PM   #106 
              - Try again.  okasha   Jul-10-05 10:05 PM   #94 
                 - But saying the name "Stringfellow" proves it is incorrect  muriel_volestrangler   Jul-11-05 05:56 AM   #98 
  - After every high, there's a low...  IMModerate   Jul-09-05 09:48 PM   #25 
  - Let's not get too hung-up on the Pluto stuff, okay?  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:50 PM   #33 
     - Yes and no.  IMModerate   Jul-10-05 09:14 AM   #61 
  - Tell me more about this process  Heaven and Earth   Jul-09-05 11:28 PM   #29 
  - It is the Ultimate Good I speak of.  leanin_green   Jul-09-05 11:59 PM   #35 
     - If we were merely a part of this process  Heaven and Earth   Jul-10-05 12:09 AM   #41 
        - Goodness and badness of it?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 12:40 AM   #43 
           - Would someone running on instinct be able to say the things you do?  Heaven and Earth   Jul-10-05 12:51 AM   #49 
              - You are trying too hard.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 01:09 AM   #52 
                 - I do applaud you for putting your beliefs out there  Heaven and Earth   Jul-10-05 01:45 AM   #56 
                 - I'm not trying to convince anybody. And BTW  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 03:00 PM   #86 
                 - yes  marions ghost   Jul-10-05 10:41 AM   #65 
  - I agree that we are experiencing a widespread crisis of faith--  marions ghost   Jul-10-05 12:09 AM   #40 
  - I never had any faith.  BiggJawn   Jul-10-05 12:50 AM   #48 
  - And so, you have your reward.  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 01:12 AM   #53 
     - My "Reward"?  BiggJawn   Jul-10-05 01:19 AM   #54 
  - Americans are more faithful than they've ever been in my lifetime.  BurtWorm   Jul-10-05 01:31 AM   #55 
  - this "faith" is shallow...  marions ghost   Jul-10-05 09:47 AM   #63 
  - Hurricanes --  IMModerate   Jul-10-05 11:36 AM   #66 
     - Actually. . .  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:25 PM   #79 
        - Well nothing is above humor.  IMModerate   Jul-10-05 03:08 PM   #89 
           - Skepticism is essential  marions ghost   Jul-11-05 08:13 AM   #99 
  - Why do the righteous suffer and the wicked prosper?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:20 PM   #77 
     - Because I WOULDN'T be living well. I'd be miserable.  Raksha   Jul-10-05 02:26 PM   #80 
     - By what set of values do you make such a conclusion?  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 02:38 PM   #83 
        - Obviously, I am NOT using the current materialistic values  Raksha   Jul-11-05 03:32 AM   #96 
     - No I don't think they're suffering for their immorality.  BurtWorm   Jul-11-05 10:02 AM   #100 
  - Lost faith?  DaddyBear1   Jul-10-05 02:07 PM   #76 
  - Faith in the system is one thing. A system hijacked and warped is anther.  HypnoToad   Jul-10-05 03:02 PM   #88 
  - I am late to the show....  Desertrose   Jul-10-05 07:13 PM   #90 
  - Thanks desertrose  leanin_green   Jul-10-05 09:44 PM   #92 
     - yuppers...quite the thread leanin_green  Desertrose   Jul-11-05 02:31 AM   #95 
  - You had me until you mentioned astrology  Taverner   Jul-11-05 03:34 PM   #103 
  - That's cool, everyone has a way.  leanin_green   Jul-11-05 08:00 PM   #108 
  - Look to me like Americans have lost doubt.  Lilith Velkor   Jul-11-05 04:02 PM   #104 
  - so question?  MsTryska   Jul-11-05 04:04 PM   #105 
     - At the beginning. . .  leanin_green   Jul-11-05 07:49 PM   #107 
        - so you're saying  MsTryska   Jul-12-05 08:48 AM   #109 
           - Yes, and conservative.  leanin_green   Jul-12-05 05:41 PM   #110 
 

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