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Thu Jun-30-05 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 54. "Guilt by by association"... |
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I have thought a lot about racism too. Discussed it in multiracial classes and gatherings as well.
Do you believe that you would have acted very differently, as a white person, from other whites if you had lived during that era?
I think social pressures push people to go either way. The author of the post earlier in this thread said he would have gone along more than likely, with everybody else--he would not have rebelled.
I think a lot of white people went along for the same reasons. It's a lot easier to go along when you gain privilege and even esteem by being thought of as "better than" others simply because of the color of your skin. Had those whites not gone along, they would have been labeled. Social diversity is more acceptable now, for the most part so it's easy to go along with that today.
I also think that subtle racism persists because people gravitate toward their own kind. People seek to affiliate and assimilate, and race is an easy way to begin doing that. It takes a lot of personal awareness to step outside of this comfort zone.
I live in an area where there are few blacks--and I'm black. I find most people to be very friendly. But...I often feel a sense of apprehension about how whites will respond to me. I sometimes feel that I will be resented because I'm simply in "their" area. I have spoken to people in my neighborhood in passing and gotten no response (not many, but it's happened). I won't say that's totally because of race--these people could be crazy or deaf for all I know--but it's easy to jump to the conclusion that racism is the reason.
I would like to add that racism is not just a black/white issue. I went to a store owned by orientals once. I was prepared to buy several items. After I tried on a few items, the oriental woman who assisted me (watched my every move actually) told me that I had to leave, I could not try on anything else. That's when I saw a sign that said you could only try on three items. I was floored--and happy as hell I hadn't bought anything before finding out I would be put out. These people, doing business in a black neighborhood, often want blacks to come in, drop their money and get out. They have zero respect for the people they make a living off of. My only regret is that I didn't organize a picket of their store to run them out of the neighborhood.
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| -I was watching a Black couple the other night and felt sad. |
trumad |
Jun-30-05 04:25 PM |
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Did they have a good table? |
Kraklen |
Jun-30-05 04:27 PM |
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They were treated fine... |
trumad |
Jun-30-05 04:31 PM |
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"Noticing the modern racism. . ." |
Iris |
Jun-30-05 04:41 PM |
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It took me years to understand |
ewagner |
Jun-30-05 04:30 PM |
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" doing the "work of God"...framed in Bible verse and morality ploys... |
bloom |
Jun-30-05 04:44 PM |
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Yes. Yes it does... n/t |
ewagner |
Jun-30-05 04:49 PM |
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They're right..... |
MsTryska |
Jun-30-05 05:05 PM |
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That's what's scary |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:27 PM |
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I thought about this the other night. |
tallahasseedem |
Jun-30-05 04:30 PM |
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As a black man, |
Tim4319 |
Jun-30-05 04:34 PM |
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hi tim. i hope and trust no one here feels different than you on this |
faithnotgreed |
Jun-30-05 04:38 PM |
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Yes, and the implications of those acts are still felt today. |
Iris |
Jun-30-05 04:43 PM |
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after the OJ verdict, I had a long discussion with a black woman colleague |
bobbieinok |
Jun-30-05 04:44 PM |
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I never heard about the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 until I saw a documentary |
oasis |
Jun-30-05 04:48 PM |
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Check this out! Here are some articles. |
Tim4319 |
Jun-30-05 04:51 PM |
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Thanks for the Tulsa Riot Links! |
martymar64 |
Jun-30-05 08:11 PM |
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I read about it in "Lies My Teacher Told Me" |
Logansquare |
Jul-01-05 04:23 PM |
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I did some research on the Tulsa riots and Black Wall Street. |
Tim4319 |
Jun-30-05 04:48 PM |
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HBO documentary: "OJ, A Study in Black and White" |
La Coliniere |
Jun-30-05 05:09 PM |
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Oh wow |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:33 PM |
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We not only need to remember and think about the history of racism and |
Mairead |
Jun-30-05 04:47 PM |
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i agree |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 04:50 PM |
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As a white man |
Bread and Circus |
Jun-30-05 05:13 PM |
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The Jews don't want the Holocaust forgotten either. The Christians |
Auntie Bush |
Jun-30-05 05:28 PM |
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I agree |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:30 PM |
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Jun-30-05 04:34 PM |
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"Shrug???" |
JanMichael |
Jun-30-05 04:38 PM |
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Jun-30-05 04:59 PM |
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Well we don't know the poster is down yonder. |
JanMichael |
Jun-30-05 05:01 PM |
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Or... You Could Check the Profile... |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:06 PM |
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I don't really trust what people put in online profiles. |
JanMichael |
Jun-30-05 05:11 PM |
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I Hear Ya !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:18 PM |
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What the? |
Kraklen |
Jun-30-05 05:20 PM |
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Unless he's lying... |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jun-30-05 05:08 PM |
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Just LOVE That Button !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:10 PM |
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Good one |
Yupster |
Jun-30-05 07:57 PM |
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if things hadn't changed... |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 04:56 PM |
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You Know I Love You... Don't You ??? |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:09 PM |
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but of course |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 05:22 PM |
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Here... And Yes !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:25 PM |
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i'll put in on my calendar |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 05:29 PM |
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LOL. |
Kraklen |
Jun-30-05 05:03 PM |
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"Guilt by by association"... |
linazelle |
Jun-30-05 05:37 PM |
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How sad |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:39 PM |
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Actually I was a caterpillar who turned into a butterfly |
trumad |
Jun-30-05 05:12 PM |
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I hear you. |
thereismore |
Jun-30-05 04:34 PM |
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And yet, some have learned nothing... |
nikraye |
Jun-30-05 04:35 PM |
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Exactly. That's so sickening. |
Zenlitened |
Jun-30-05 05:01 PM |
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that is truly and equal-opportunity hate |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 07:02 PM |
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A big difference... |
nikraye |
Jun-30-05 07:17 PM |
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surface acceptance, perhaps |
noiretblu |
Jun-30-05 07:25 PM |
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Yes...religion is the common thread. |
nikraye |
Jun-30-05 07:34 PM |
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oakland is very diverse |
noiretblu |
Jul-01-05 01:24 PM |
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Obviously not |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:40 PM |
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they are simply anti-gay bigots |
noiretblu |
Jul-01-05 03:02 PM |
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they are told we choose to be this way...they didn't choose |
jonnyblitz |
Jul-01-05 08:02 PM |
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when i was a kid |
knowbody0 |
Jun-30-05 04:35 PM |
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This is so common! |
expatriate |
Jun-30-05 08:25 PM |
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maybe you are my cousin? |
knowbody0 |
Jun-30-05 09:23 PM |
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Could be! |
expatriate |
Jun-30-05 10:59 PM |
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Why not feel happy and proud? |
TahitiNut |
Jun-30-05 04:36 PM |
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Oh I do... |
trumad |
Jun-30-05 05:16 PM |
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Good points |
FreedomAngel82 |
Jun-30-05 07:45 PM |
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When people find difficulty in their lives, it's easy |
One_Life_To_Give |
Jun-30-05 04:37 PM |
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Maybe some self-professing Christians don't practice Christian principles, |
indepat |
Jun-30-05 04:41 PM |
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I was just thinking about something like that |
lynch03 |
Jun-30-05 04:44 PM |
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Last night while listing to Mike Malloy tell of what |
devinsgram |
Jun-30-05 04:45 PM |
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Martin Niemoeller on the failure of the churches to protest Nazi crimes |
bobbieinok |
Jun-30-05 05:21 PM |
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That;'s mighty white of you, Tru |
CatWoman |
Jun-30-05 05:16 PM |
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Another Black Goddess !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 05:22 PM |
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(tsk, tsk) |
TahitiNut |
Jun-30-05 05:43 PM |
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Thank you! Maybe someday |
goclark |
Jun-30-05 05:20 PM |
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Jun-30-05 05:30 PM |
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same way a "human" can praise jeebiz on sunday |
leftofthedial |
Jun-30-05 05:31 PM |
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I think it's normal to feel that way... I know I do. |
progressivebydesign |
Jun-30-05 07:39 PM |
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My grandmother died a few years back at the age of 93 |
Ikonoklast |
Jun-30-05 07:40 PM |
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Thats a GREAT story. Thanks. |
geckosfeet |
Jun-30-05 10:53 PM |
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*sobbing* - Thank You For That !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 11:01 PM |
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I am racist towards racists. |
BMG |
Jun-30-05 07:41 PM |
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I had a similar thought the other day... |
porphyrian |
Jun-30-05 07:50 PM |
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NOTICE, THAT NOT ONE PERSON, INCLUDING ME, VOTED THIS UP !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-30-05 10:49 PM |
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I was trying to keep the black man down |
AchtungToddler |
Jul-01-05 07:54 PM |
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There's alot of dark history |
mmonk |
Jun-30-05 11:07 PM |
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I know you live in Miami where blacks have never had it easy |
RagingInMiami |
Jun-30-05 11:17 PM |
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I think it's a normal reaction |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Jul-01-05 02:09 AM |
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