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Sun Jun-26-05 11:49 AM
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We don't need it.
When Islam was founded, it was more than a religion, it was like a religion-plus basically.
Islam needs a reformation to make sure the 'religious right' of Islam don't abuse it.
Getting rid of Sharia would be an excellent step in reformation.
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| -Should we respect islam if it does not respect women? |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 04:47 AM |
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I think its not a good thing in any extreme sense. |
LightningFlash |
Jun-26-05 04:55 AM |
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The Bible says much of the same thing as the Koran regarding men and women |
BrendaStarr |
Jun-26-05 07:00 PM |
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Maybe they just got done watching the history channel....n/t |
LightningFlash |
Jun-27-05 02:44 AM |
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The Koran institutionalizes sexism |
OKDem08 |
Jun-26-05 04:58 AM |
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Let's not forget the Southern Baptists. |
slutticus |
Jun-26-05 05:02 AM |
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Indeed |
tavalon |
Jun-26-05 05:54 AM |
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So does the Bible! |
aquart |
Jun-26-05 06:08 AM |
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That said, sharia is a problem |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 10:50 AM |
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Look at the status of women in the extreme right wing church! |
BrendaStarr |
Jun-26-05 07:11 PM |
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You said: |
kitkatrose |
Jun-26-05 11:55 AM |
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Girl stuff! |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 12:12 PM |
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Some of the Gnostic gospels |
XemaSab |
Jun-26-05 02:47 PM |
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So does the bible. They were written by clerics and such who were from |
leesa |
Jun-26-05 01:04 PM |
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Welcome to DU, OKDem! |
funflower |
Jun-26-05 01:46 PM |
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Says something similar in the Bible too. Do we respect the Bible or not? |
Skidmore |
Jun-26-05 05:01 AM |
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If a literal interpretation is against the law... |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 05:12 AM |
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The Catholic Church makes women second class citizens but we have |
rodeodance |
Jun-26-05 05:20 AM |
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That law of the land problem |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 10:57 AM |
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I think that is the main issue |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-26-05 07:55 AM |
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I don't respect the Bible either |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-26-05 07:29 AM |
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Same here. I'm an equal opportunity dis-respecter. |
Oregonian |
Jun-26-05 12:01 PM |
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Thank you Skidmore.. |
annabanana |
Jun-26-05 08:05 PM |
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You can find similar quotes in the Bible |
Frederik |
Jun-26-05 05:16 AM |
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I respect a person's right to practice the religion they choose |
nonconformist |
Jun-26-05 05:17 AM |
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That could explain why Tom DeLay's on his 17th relationship.... |
LightningFlash |
Jun-26-05 05:20 AM |
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Yes it does |
Oversea Visitor |
Jun-26-05 05:26 AM |
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No, we shouldn't |
LondonAmerican |
Jun-26-05 05:32 AM |
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The bible condones genocide |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-26-05 07:13 AM |
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You are right about the bible |
LondonAmerican |
Jun-26-05 08:25 AM |
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Slaughtering over differences |
JNelson6563 |
Jun-26-05 10:36 AM |
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Do you think fundamentalist Christianity discriminates against women? |
tavalon |
Jun-26-05 05:34 AM |
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They think they respect women more than we do. |
aquart |
Jun-26-05 06:05 AM |
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The ones where it won't get you the death penalty?***** |
Egalitariat |
Jun-26-05 06:56 PM |
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Sounds like the Old Testament to me. n/t |
Bluebear |
Jun-26-05 06:23 AM |
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The Wahabi sect resembles your description. Sufi (Islam) doesn't. |
no_hypocrisy |
Jun-26-05 06:42 AM |
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Indeed, one of the most infuriating things |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 07:16 AM |
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Thanx, Volodya |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 08:07 AM |
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Heh, you are welcome |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 09:24 AM |
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Well said, but more muslims need to speak out |
cally |
Jun-26-05 11:44 AM |
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We all, unless extraordinarly "lucky" |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 01:13 PM |
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OK, so you saying that I can't have an opinion |
cally |
Jun-26-05 01:58 PM |
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Sorry, Cally |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 02:44 PM |
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I would like to more about what you have learned |
cally |
Jun-26-05 05:13 PM |
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Callykins |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 06:07 PM |
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how is that "exceptionalism"? |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-26-05 12:54 PM |
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So what's the point? |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 06:21 PM |
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Thank you! |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-27-05 07:40 PM |
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Perhaps islamic culture is better |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 12:57 PM |
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I was going to point that out if you hadn't |
Clark2008 |
Jun-26-05 09:32 AM |
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"For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ |
jody |
Jun-26-05 07:09 AM |
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you took the words out of my mouth |
FLDem5 |
Jun-26-05 11:05 AM |
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Some recent research indicates |
cally |
Jun-26-05 11:38 AM |
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One has to view these texts in historical context. This verse may have |
funflower |
Jun-26-05 01:53 PM |
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I see no reason at all to respect Islam. |
eallen |
Jun-26-05 07:11 AM |
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Islam Does Respect Women, It's The Interpreters/Mullahs Who Don't. |
cryingshame |
Jun-26-05 07:19 AM |
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"It's not the religion. It's all those people who practice it." |
eallen |
Jun-26-05 08:30 AM |
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Some of us think all religion is bullshit, therefore what was |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-26-05 12:05 PM |
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I am not even concerned at this moment about how Islam regards Men-Women |
KlatooBNikto |
Jun-26-05 07:25 AM |
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"Do not tolerate intolerance" |
jim3775 |
Jun-26-05 08:38 AM |
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I don't respect any religion |
undergroundpanther |
Jun-26-05 08:46 AM |
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Respect other people, including Muslims. |
gulliver |
Jun-26-05 09:31 AM |
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You need to distinguish between the religion and the religious text... |
brooklynite |
Jun-26-05 09:51 AM |
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Not every Muslim is the same |
ck4829 |
Jun-26-05 10:45 AM |
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What are your thoughts about sharia? |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 11:01 AM |
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Errraaa... |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 11:29 AM |
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Sharia is bad |
ck4829 |
Jun-26-05 11:49 AM |
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This "reformation" |
Karenina |
Jun-26-05 12:27 PM |
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Religions don't suppress people, People suppress people |
FLDem5 |
Jun-26-05 11:11 AM |
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BINGO!!! |
HypnoToad |
Jun-26-05 01:49 PM |
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thanks.. |
FLDem5 |
Jun-26-05 08:08 PM |
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Jun-26-05 11:35 AM |
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Hear, hear |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-26-05 12:14 PM |
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Jun-26-05 12:59 PM |
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I aim to please! n/t |
Codeine |
Jun-26-05 01:43 PM |
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eh, guess you didn't please everyone. |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-28-05 08:52 AM |
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NO. |
Triana |
Jun-26-05 11:38 AM |
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I respect no religion, but I respect anyone's right to believe whatever... |
mitchum |
Jun-26-05 11:43 AM |
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Most definitely not. |
hel |
Jun-26-05 11:52 AM |
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You meet with muslims and spend time with them and decide |
Terran1212 |
Jun-26-05 12:10 PM |
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I spent years working with a bunch of Iranian guys. |
UdoKier |
Jun-26-05 12:15 PM |
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And I've spent years studying with |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 01:42 PM |
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Excellent!!! |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 01:58 PM |
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See, I don't know if I agree |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 02:12 PM |
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economic class? |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 02:20 PM |
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Economic class |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 02:31 PM |
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Thank you, Vlad. |
Hatalles |
Jun-26-05 06:11 PM |
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You're right. |
UdoKier |
Jun-26-05 07:57 PM |
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With respect, I don't think you can |
Vladimir |
Jun-26-05 08:40 PM |
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Jun-26-05 12:11 PM |
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I think your post was great. |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-26-05 12:19 PM |
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Jun-26-05 12:38 PM |
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You captured it |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 01:26 PM |
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And of course it was deleted... |
UdoKier |
Jun-26-05 07:51 PM |
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Fear of what we don't understand |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 09:04 PM |
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excellent thread, excellent post. Making me think, alot. |
FizzFuzz |
Jun-28-05 10:29 AM |
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Shortly after 9-11 |
ccbombs |
Jun-26-05 01:28 PM |
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Jun-26-05 12:46 PM |
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"My, you certainly missed the point..." eom |
Codeine |
Jun-26-05 12:48 PM |
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You can cherry pick any "Holy Book" in the world & find worse. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-26-05 01:13 PM |
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Walk the walk |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 01:41 PM |
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Islam is an it? It is so monolithic that one verse |
Malikshah |
Jun-26-05 01:30 PM |
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monolithic or not |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 01:46 PM |
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Is truth unchanging law?? |
Malikshah |
Jun-26-05 01:56 PM |
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The truth is equal rights for all persons |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 02:11 PM |
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Not hiding behind excuses nor conding that-- |
Malikshah |
Jun-26-05 02:57 PM |
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Great post sweetheart! |
smirkymonkey |
Jun-27-05 07:50 PM |
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Doesn't religion get imposed on culture? n/t |
hel |
Jun-26-05 02:17 PM |
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No. I can't respect Xianity either... |
HypnoToad |
Jun-26-05 01:49 PM |
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Being a Progressive... |
MrPrax |
Jun-26-05 02:25 PM |
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Trickier? |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 05:49 PM |
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Right Said... |
MrPrax |
Jun-26-05 07:25 PM |
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I think if they are respectful of you, you should respect them. |
Cleita |
Jun-26-05 02:54 PM |
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It's a sad testament to religious fundamentalism. |
deadparrot |
Jun-26-05 03:06 PM |
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It's a sad testament to progressives... |
Codeine |
Jun-26-05 05:26 PM |
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please |
kineta |
Jun-26-05 05:54 PM |
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Clearly moderation is not the problem |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 06:11 PM |
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Let me know what religious beliefs you have... |
Endangered Specie |
Jun-26-05 06:13 PM |
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Have you spent time in one of the islamic countries? |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 06:31 PM |
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there is a difference between "islamic countries" and "islam" |
Endangered Specie |
Jun-26-05 06:55 PM |
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The question is somewhat troublesome |
burythehatchet |
Jun-26-05 06:18 PM |
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Arise the secular democratic estate |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 06:45 PM |
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Don't respect anny religion - just the right of individuals to believe |
mondo joe |
Jun-26-05 06:20 PM |
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Mohammed's teachings improved the status of Arab women |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-26-05 06:43 PM |
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"Look what the cat dragged in" |
Endangered Specie |
Jun-26-05 07:01 PM |
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Whew! I'm not the only one?! |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-26-05 08:14 PM |
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clearing of the throat |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 08:20 PM |
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1 in 6 American women will be victims of attempted/completed rape... |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-26-05 08:16 PM |
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well said |
sweetheart |
Jun-26-05 08:23 PM |
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well we do agree there |
bicentennial_baby |
Jun-26-05 08:27 PM |
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And, I think its 1 in 3 women will be attacked in some way, at some time |
FizzFuzz |
Jun-27-05 07:21 PM |
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Should we impose our mores on people of a vastly different culture? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jun-27-05 02:51 AM |
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I think there is a difference between imposing our mores and calling basic |
FizzFuzz |
Jun-27-05 07:40 PM |
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Well, I agree with that... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Jun-28-05 08:58 AM |
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