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  -Liberal SCOTUS Justices Screwed The Home Owners stopbush  Jun-23-05 11:46 AM   #0 
  - I agree 100%  AX10   Jun-23-05 11:48 AM   #1 
  - On this particualr ruling, I prefer to put the blame where it  stopbush   Jun-23-05 11:51 AM   #2 
     - The liberals on the court were right to support this  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:13 PM   #8 
        - So long, private property, then.  aeolian   Jun-23-05 01:16 PM   #9 
        - Private property is anti-democratic  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:20 PM   #12 
        - That's how Magabe justifies it, too.  elehhhhna   Jun-23-05 01:24 PM   #17 
        - Then you should really be against this friend. Consider this scenario  MadHound   Jun-23-05 01:50 PM   #50 
        - So one farmer should stand in the way of people that need homes?  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:55 PM   #54 
           - so developers and bureaucrats should be able to push families out of  aeolian   Jun-23-05 02:10 PM   #64 
           - THE PEOPLE should be able to push families out  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:15 PM   #69 
           - You can't see how that could possibly go wrong?  aeolian   Jun-23-05 02:18 PM   #72 
           - Why do you think we have social programs?  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:22 PM   #75 
              - CitiCorp wanting to build an office building is now a "social program?"  aeolian   Jun-23-05 02:25 PM   #80 
              - If it brings jobs and more tax money  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:28 PM   #84 
                 - "we support democracy"  Prag   Jun-23-05 02:36 PM   #95 
                 - But they answer to elected officials  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:40 PM   #103 
                 - Will you stop with this blather about Democracy  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:48 PM   #112 
                 - Democracy is NOT BLATHER  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:54 PM   #119 
                    - In its purest form that what it is!  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:58 PM   #124 
                 - Why not build cities populated entirely by corporate structures  stopbush   Jun-23-05 03:25 PM   #137 
                 - Hey, not to mention the "elected officials" from that district...  Prag   Jun-23-05 03:28 PM   #139 
                 - I support democracy  TXlib   Jun-23-05 06:07 PM   #181 
                    - They aren't necessarily opposed  blurp   Jun-23-05 07:31 PM   #193 
                       - Communism only works when everyone is emotionally vested in everybody else  TXlib   Jun-23-05 11:26 PM   #200 
              - YOU'RE DAMNED STRAIGHT I REALIZE WHO I AM AGREEING WITH!  Walt Starr   Jun-23-05 07:53 PM   #198 
           - Trouble with that concept friend is that it isn't THE PEOPLE  MadHound   Jun-23-05 02:32 PM   #89 
           - As an individaul, you don't like it, but we live in a democracy.  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:38 PM   #99 
              - put the issue up for a vote then  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:42 PM   #108 
              - Wrong, we live in a Constitutinal REPUBLIC  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 02:47 PM   #111 
              - This is also called "Democratic Underground"  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:57 PM   #122 
                 - Funny how as, according to you "Democracy wins"  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 03:37 PM   #144 
                 - You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about..  T Town Jake   Jun-23-05 03:39 PM   #147 
                 - It's funny how your vision of democracy resembles Soviet Russia  TXlib   Jun-23-05 06:06 PM   #180 
              - LOL friend, you don't know a damn thing about me,  MadHound   Jun-23-05 03:01 PM   #128 
              - You keep saying it is up to the people to decide, but it is not.  Rex   Jun-23-05 06:15 PM   #182 
              - The rules of our democracy are layed out by the Constitution.  Sushi-Lover   Jun-23-05 06:24 PM   #184 
           - Either you're an outright communist  TXlib   Jun-23-05 06:05 PM   #179 
           - They're not bureaucrats.  cprise   Jun-23-05 02:41 PM   #107 
           - Did you even read the post properly?  GoneOffShore   Jun-23-05 02:27 PM   #83 
           - Of course I read the post. Either you support democracy or not.  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:30 PM   #86 
              - Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness (property)  VTMechEngr   Jun-23-05 02:33 PM   #93 
              - Democrats stand for democracy  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:46 PM   #109 
                 - So, you support turning a 30% homeless rate into a 50% homeless rate.  Prag   Jun-23-05 02:48 PM   #113 
                 - Oh yeah, just wait  ProgressiveFool   Jun-23-05 04:59 PM   #171 
              - Tyranny of the Majority eh?  Heaven and Earth   Jun-23-05 11:40 PM   #202 
           - OMG! What a horrible concept. A farmer needing land for crops  VTMechEngr   Jun-23-05 02:32 PM   #88 
           - Making special considerations for housing, agriculture...  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:17 PM   #133 
           - Considering that I own such a farm, yes, I think that it is entirely fair  MadHound   Jun-23-05 02:40 PM   #104 
           - Its too bad we don't have fair or comprehensive planning policies.  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:29 PM   #140 
              - I agree with you  MadHound   Jun-23-05 03:41 PM   #149 
           - Soooo  Horse with no Name   Jun-24-05 11:38 AM   #212 
        - tyranny of the majority is anti-democratic too  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:32 PM   #90 
        - I can't believe what I'm hearing!  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:52 PM   #116 
        - Party of Democracy?  GarySeven   Jun-23-05 03:25 PM   #138 
           - You don't even know the definition of "democracy"  blurp   Jun-23-05 03:47 PM   #153 
              - You are an absolute NUT  GarySeven   Jun-23-05 03:52 PM   #157 
        - the proper name for the tyranny of the majority is kleptocracy  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 03:38 PM   #146 
        - Suddenly, the scene in Dr Zhivago where 200 people are  stopbush   Jun-23-05 03:21 PM   #134 
        - Really?  davekriss   Jun-23-05 05:50 PM   #176 
        - "Private Property is anti-democratic" is the same concept that...  AX10   Jun-23-05 06:37 PM   #186 
        - Then you apparently agree with all the conservatives  blurp   Jun-23-05 07:34 PM   #194 
        - Private property guarantees democracy !  eagler   Jun-24-05 05:22 AM   #206 
        - Ugh  FreedomAngel82   Jun-23-05 01:47 PM   #47 
        - Tax the rich then.  Prag   Jun-23-05 01:28 PM   #25 
        - Property owners are the rich  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:31 PM   #30 
           - Anyone who makes mortgage payments is *NOT* "rich"...  Prag   Jun-23-05 01:35 PM   #33 
           - thank you, you took the words out of my mouth.n/t  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:08 PM   #61 
           - this won't effect the Rich  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 01:39 PM   #36 
           - Relative to the poor, they are the rich.  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:43 PM   #40 
           - "the city does pay 'fair market value' to the land owner for property"  Prag   Jun-23-05 01:49 PM   #49 
           - I grew up poor too, but I worked very hard for my modest home.......  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:25 PM   #79 
           - And some don't even have a home.  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:33 PM   #92 
              - Your not making any sense....You have it all wrong.  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:37 PM   #96 
              - Please explain how making the 30% homeless 50% homeless...  Prag   Jun-23-05 02:38 PM   #100 
              - It isn't for the greater good. It just helps the rich get richer.....  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:40 PM   #102 
              - From Each According to His Ability  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 03:40 PM   #148 
                 - It is a DEMOCRATIC  blurp   Jun-23-05 03:58 PM   #160 
                 - So is lynching, racism if the "majority" so decrees  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 04:46 PM   #166 
                 - To each according to his greed isn't communism  Lilith Velkor   Jun-23-05 06:23 PM   #183 
           - Fair market value = 10-20% of REAL fair market value  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 02:50 PM   #114 
           - Said so much better than I ever could...  Prag   Jun-23-05 01:46 PM   #44 
              - don't mention it  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:11 PM   #66 
           - So I'm RICH! That's a laugher friend!  MadHound   Jun-23-05 03:11 PM   #132 
              - Everone with wealth thinks they "deserve it". Nice try.  blurp   Jun-23-05 03:50 PM   #155 
        - So you really believe  Ron Mexico   Jun-23-05 02:58 PM   #125 
        - You must be absolutely CRAZY  GarySeven   Jun-23-05 02:58 PM   #126 
        - Eminent domain should be reserved for PUBLIC uses of property--  eridani   Jun-24-05 03:32 AM   #203 
  - This is going to hurt us politically  4_Legs_Good   Jun-23-05 11:52 AM   #3 
  - most of the people who post here will not be happy either  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 11:55 AM   #5 
  - I'm happy. Taking this land means more collected in taxes. That's good.  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:17 PM   #10 
  - no---that is how communism works  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:20 PM   #13 
  - Nope. It's about democracy and the greater good.  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:24 PM   #18 
     - wait until they fuck over someone you love  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:27 PM   #21 
     - But the corp pays more in taxes to the city  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:36 PM   #34 
        - we are a country of laws  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:45 PM   #42 
        - Please don't alert this post...  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:00 PM   #127 
           - It is "very instructive"...and quite right, at that.  T Town Jake   Jun-23-05 03:41 PM   #150 
           - Wait .. what??  Sushi-Lover   Jun-23-05 04:18 PM   #163 
              - That's not what I was getting at.  cprise   Jun-23-05 04:49 PM   #167 
                 - i don't believe property rights are absolute  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-24-05 06:53 AM   #208 
        - selfish bastards  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 01:45 PM   #43 
        - But he was right  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:05 PM   #59 
           - Be very careful with that statement  wuushew   Jun-23-05 02:10 PM   #63 
           - Not at all racist  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:17 PM   #70 
              - Why was invading Amerika the only option for the Irish?  wuushew   Jun-23-05 02:24 PM   #78 
              - John Wayne is burning in HELL with Adolf.  AX10   Jun-23-05 06:49 PM   #188 
           - he was right to absolutely no extent  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:14 PM   #67 
           - If you're poor and hungry, you'll fight  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:19 PM   #73 
           - Geez, you don't even know history do you!  MadHound   Jun-23-05 03:22 PM   #135 
              - You're the one that is ignorant of history  blurp   Jun-23-05 03:45 PM   #151 
                 - Funny guy, tell you what, can I go show these comments of yours  MadHound   Jun-23-05 04:59 PM   #172 
                    - Please avail yourself of his services. Don't just sit in your office.  blurp   Jun-23-05 05:58 PM   #177 
        - Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't  0rganism   Jun-23-05 02:24 PM   #77 
        - Really? Come over to Fairfield Connecticut, GE hasn't....  AX10   Jun-23-05 06:52 PM   #189 
     - This ISN'T about the greater good  fujiyama   Jun-23-05 01:33 PM   #31 
     - Yes it is.  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:40 PM   #37 
     - Money for more social programs----Right........  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:56 PM   #120 
     - The words you're looking for are PUBLIC USE  0rganism   Jun-23-05 02:27 PM   #82 
        - But collecting more in taxes is a form of PUBLIC USE  blurp   Jun-23-05 03:01 PM   #129 
           - YOU DON'T KNOW that more taxes will be the result,  0rganism   Jun-23-05 03:22 PM   #136 
     - It's been developed for high end condos  GoneOffShore   Jun-23-05 02:32 PM   #91 
     - Liberalism means helping the INDIVIDUAL  GarySeven   Jun-23-05 03:07 PM   #131 
        - Yeah well liberalism isn't enough.  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:59 PM   #161 
  - Is this sarcasm? It must be... nt  smartvoter   Jun-23-05 01:21 PM   #15 
  - let's hope so...  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:22 PM   #16 
  - Not sarcasm and not cold-hearted  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:28 PM   #23 
     - luck? lucky to own a home?  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:31 PM   #29 
     - Yes, lucky. And lucky to own a business, too. Those are taken as well.  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:46 PM   #45 
     - this will need to be deleted  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:48 PM   #48 
        - Don't give me the "all taxes are pass on" crud  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:02 PM   #56 
           - yeah...corporations just absorb that  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 02:04 PM   # 
     - well, no  Lexingtonian   Jun-23-05 01:51 PM   #52 
        - a little esoteric for this discussion  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-23-05 01:56 PM   #55 
           - absolutely wrong  Lexingtonian   Jun-23-05 02:09 PM   #62 
              - the king owns his castle, the lord his manor  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:19 PM   #74 
              - hardly  Lexingtonian   Jun-23-05 02:38 PM   #98 
                 - this law has the potential of creating a whole lot more  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:57 PM   #123 
              - That's why it's called real estate  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:24 PM   #76 
     - Dude, you have this all wrong........  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:15 PM   #68 
        - But big corps pay more in taxes. That's a fact.  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:26 PM   #81 
           - No they don't........  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:34 PM   #94 
           - No they don't. Not proportionately. This is just silly.  smartvoter   Jun-23-05 11:38 PM   #201 
  - I'm thinking it must be  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 01:52 PM   #53 
  - unfortunately not  noiretblu   Jun-23-05 02:04 PM   #58 
     - Fact is big corps make lots of money, therefore can pay more in taxes  blurp   Jun-23-05 02:07 PM   #60 
        - they make lots of money, but they pay little in taxes.........  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:29 PM   #85 
        - Agreed  Hong Kong Cavalier   Jun-23-05 02:46 PM   #110 
        - enron certainly was a big corporation  noiretblu   Jun-23-05 04:09 PM   #162 
  - except of course... that often such projects get huge tax breaks  salin   Jun-23-05 01:33 PM   #32 
  - You are absolutely correct that incentives are expensive  wuushew   Jun-23-05 01:47 PM   #46 
  - no it's how fascism works  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 01:43 PM   #39 
  - They take the property to get more in tax money  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:51 PM   #51 
     - Corporations are given huge tax breaks to move into a community.  converted_democrat   Jun-23-05 02:31 PM   #87 
     - any extra tax money isn't going to social programs  GreenArrow   Jun-23-05 02:37 PM   #97 
     - This had nothing to do with social programs  dean_dem   Jun-23-05 03:30 PM   # 
     - I agree completely  Indy Lurker   Jun-23-05 07:06 PM   #191 
     - delete: my send button's a little trigger-happy  dean_dem   Jun-23-05 03:30 PM   #141 
  - Karl? That you? I've got Engels on the phone. Lenin says hi!  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:38 PM   #101 
  - You're talking to the wrong Karl, if you read closely.  pgh_dem   Jun-23-05 05:23 PM   #175 
     - I suppose you're calling me a freeper then  blurp   Jun-23-05 07:39 PM   #195 
  - Jesus Christ, you are sooooo naive!  dbaker41   Jun-23-05 07:50 PM   #197 
  - but it also cleaves a wedge among republicans  salin   Jun-23-05 01:30 PM   #27 
  - That's why I just can't understand why the supposed "liberal" judges  ComerPerro   Jun-23-05 01:19 PM   #11 
     - More public services provided with more tax money  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:21 PM   #14 
     - The trend in business taxation has been a downward race to the bottom  wuushew   Jun-23-05 01:27 PM   #22 
     - More business mean more tax money to collect  blurp   Jun-23-05 01:30 PM   #28 
     - Yeah, I suppose that would be one rationale. But good luck collecting  ComerPerro   Jun-23-05 01:37 PM   #35 
     - I think they were being strict constitutionalists and defining the term  4_Legs_Good   Jun-23-05 01:40 PM   #38 
     - Thanks for an actual answer and not just hot rhetoric  ComerPerro   Jun-23-05 01:43 PM   #41 
     - I agree halfway  Lexingtonian   Jun-23-05 02:02 PM   #57 
     - Because "liberal" judges advocate an open interpretation of the Constituti  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:51 PM   #115 
  - it's feeble minded - proof that there needs to be judicial term limits  sui generis   Jun-23-05 11:55 AM   #4 
  - spot on post. thank you. nt  antfarm   Jun-23-05 12:46 PM   #6 
  - I feel sick, i agreed with Scalia.  SeekerofTruth   Jun-23-05 01:03 PM   #7 
  - I have agreed with Thomas twice this month!  Mitt Chovick   Jun-23-05 01:24 PM   #19 
  - So there are only four conservative justices on the SC?  redqueen   Jun-23-05 01:26 PM   #20 
  - I'm not sure which is worse ...  Eastside Blue   Jun-23-05 01:28 PM   #24 
  - It's strange  fujiyama   Jun-23-05 01:29 PM   #26 
  - Exact same reaction when I read the story this morning  bunkerbuster1   Jun-23-05 03:07 PM   #130 
     - You may be with them... But, for entirely different reasons.  Prag   Jun-23-05 03:35 PM   #142 
  - maybe they draw straws on who will be liberal and who will be...  tandem5   Jun-23-05 02:11 PM   #65 
  - Only RETHUGS would support this ruling!  TheGoldenRule   Jun-23-05 02:18 PM   #71 
  - Only corporatist support it  davepc   Jun-23-05 02:40 PM   #106 
  - Correctomundo  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 02:53 PM   #117 
  - No, this mad grab for tax base is a result of G.O.P. tax policies  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:38 PM   #145 
     - States are free to increase their own income taxes  blurp   Jun-23-05 07:30 PM   #192 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-23-05 02:40 PM   #105 
  - There is no representation of middle America anywhere in our Government.  Prag   Jun-23-05 02:53 PM   #118 
  - The issue of property rights is only one dimension.  tandem5   Jun-23-05 03:49 PM   #154 
  - Simple .. a proper liberal  Sushi-Lover   Jun-23-05 03:53 PM   #158 
  - :( this is scarily fascistic.  FizzFuzz   Jun-23-05 02:57 PM   #121 
  - The point is holding the line on so-called property rights  LawDem   Jun-23-05 03:37 PM   #143 
  - TOTALLY Agree. SCOTUS made a hard but correct decision.  cprise   Jun-23-05 03:46 PM   #152 
  - What you say is absolutely true, BUT  GarySeven   Jun-23-05 03:51 PM   #156 
  - There can be a fair balance between private property and societal good  davepc   Jun-23-05 03:54 PM   #159 
  - Socialism, my ass!  eridani   Jun-24-05 03:53 AM   #205 
  - I'm a homeowner, and I agree  Pithlet   Jun-23-05 04:29 PM   #165 
  - Nobody wants to abolish eliminate domain  davepc   Jun-23-05 04:54 PM   #170 
  - Actually, I don't want to scare anyone,  Sushi-Lover   Jun-23-05 05:06 PM   #173 
  - It's definitely not something that should be done on a whim  Pithlet   Jun-23-05 06:31 PM   #185 
  - I understand that  Pithlet   Jun-23-05 05:07 PM   #174 
  - In this case, Pfizer wants to built a new corporate complex...  AX10   Jun-23-05 06:42 PM   #187 
     - That is wrong  Pithlet   Jun-23-05 07:53 PM   #199 
  - with respect  TexasUnderground   Jun-23-05 04:52 PM   #168 
  - that "bump in the road" to property rights...  NorthernSpy   Jun-23-05 06:00 PM   #178 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-23-05 04:27 PM   #164 
  - This part of what you said is BS  Sushi-Lover   Jun-23-05 04:52 PM   #169 
  - How's this tied to the "takings clause" debate in general?  Cell Whitman   Jun-23-05 06:59 PM   #190 
  - Easy to see the logic of it  blurp   Jun-23-05 07:48 PM   #196 
  - There is nothing wrong with eminent domain--  eridani   Jun-24-05 03:38 AM   #204 
  - Uh, have NONE of you guys figured out...  Ferretherder   Jun-24-05 05:58 AM   #207 
     - no doubt...but he is fun n/t  ProdigalJunkMail   Jun-24-05 06:56 AM   #209 
     - It's like a time machine back to 8th grade govenrment class  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jun-24-05 07:36 AM   #210 
     - Agreed.  Sushi-Lover   Jun-24-05 11:29 AM   #211 
 

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