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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:08 PM
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79. Not totally
It's about the climate of denial about the seriousness of the pedophile problem in this country. It touches too many people affects too many lives it's triggering to peopkle trauumatizzed and sets off denial in enablers and I think people are unable to think clearly on it.

I think the whole mess is scary as hell and I think people are playing make believe about it and while they pretend everything is fibne kids are hurt and hurt for life.

Victims that come out are shamed,silenced,intimidated and disbelived too much.Enablers will take bribes deny the bad choices they make and perps get away with it all in the confusion and suffering and the cognitive dissonence thier violations cause in people that both love and hate them. It is the ultimate killer of a person's soul and trust. It has to stop..
The mother is evil in the MJ case so was MJ.

Parents have been known to sell thier kids for money as prostitutes,Parents beat thier kids people in powewr abuse power and others choose to stand by way too much..people can be so very evil and the game of secrets can make it all worse,if a court serttle out of court for a bribe justicvce is not done because secrets are kept..and our victim hating, weakness fearing, culture of make believe does NOT help anything heal.

I am very afraid for this world.

That's what the post was about.
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  -Pedophiles everywhere are cheering the MJ verdict. MyPetRock  Jun-13-05 04:47 PM   #0 
  - Just don't take your sons and grandsons to 'sleepovers' with grown men.  redqueen   Jun-13-05 04:47 PM   #1 
  - Give me a break.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 04:49 PM   #5 
     - You're talking about the MJ verdict.  redqueen   Jun-13-05 04:50 PM   #6 
     - Context is always a victim  Tempest   Jun-13-05 04:51 PM   #10 
     - And yet nothing you listed had anything to do with this case  Tempest   Jun-13-05 04:51 PM   # 
     - That statement of yours was really sick.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 04:56 PM   #24 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:00 PM   #30 
           - Hatred of pedophiles isn't a pathology  yankeedem   Jun-13-05 05:05 PM   #37 
           - Hatred of accused pedophiles who are acquitted is  Tempest   Jun-13-05 05:09 PM   #41 
              - Where did the thread originator say that?  yankeedem   Jun-13-05 05:14 PM   #48 
           - I've writting NOTHING about pedophiles until this verdict was announced.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 05:13 PM   #46 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 06:03 PM   #76 
     - Isn't that how Michael Jackson lured kids?  yankeedem   Jun-13-05 04:52 PM   #11 
     - Even if a parent hands a child over to a pedophile, that does NOT  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 04:58 PM   #26 
     - What criminal act?  Tempest   Jun-13-05 05:01 PM   #32 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:09 PM   #40 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-14-05 10:52 AM   #171 
     - Of course, it's never been proven that he's a pedophile  yankeedem   Jun-13-05 05:03 PM   #36 
     - No, that was the reich wing mayor of Spokane.  BringEmOn   Jun-13-05 05:11 PM   #43 
     - I find it mighty odd  FreedomAngel82   Jun-13-05 06:22 PM   #91 
     - "lured, seduced, kidnapped " probably = better case.  Gidney N Cloyd   Jun-13-05 04:58 PM   #28 
  - Then blame the prosecutors  Walt Starr   Jun-13-05 04:47 PM   #2 
  - Must really suck living in a country where you have to prove guilt  ET Awful   Jun-13-05 04:48 PM   #3 
  - Yeah right!!  0007   Jun-13-05 04:55 PM   #22 
  - And that has what to do with a presumption of innocence and proof  ET Awful   Jun-13-05 05:02 PM   #34 
     - I understand clearly, but I think you missed my point  0007   Jun-14-05 05:08 AM   #162 
  - No  Speed8098   Jun-14-05 05:16 AM   #164 
  - Oh Bullshit..don't send your kid into his bedroom and your kid is fine  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-13-05 04:49 PM   #4 
  - I agree totally and with an 11-year old daughter  Liberaler   Jun-13-05 04:54 PM   #17 
  - Great post... welcome to DU!  redqueen   Jun-13-05 05:02 PM   #33 
  - Welcome to DU, Liberaler  Ariana Celeste   Jun-13-05 05:13 PM   #47 
     - I agree  FreedomAngel82   Jun-13-05 06:32 PM   #99 
  - You are so right!!! I think the mother is a criminal.  suziedemocrat   Jun-13-05 05:00 PM   #31 
  - huh? so you believe molestation occured, but only the mom should be  bettyellen   Jun-13-05 08:20 PM   #148 
     - No..I just believe if you don't send your kids into the bedrooms of  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-14-05 12:35 AM   #158 
  - I have sons  ohio_liberal   Jun-13-05 04:50 PM   #7 
  - Oh, please.  crispini   Jun-13-05 04:50 PM   #8 
  - Give me a break  hippiechick   Jun-13-05 04:51 PM   #9 
  - Damn  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-13-05 04:54 PM   #19 
  - Well, there's a special on Kleenex at WalMart  Sequoia   Jun-13-05 04:52 PM   #12 
  - Don't argue the evidence?  sandnsea   Jun-13-05 04:52 PM   #13 
  - You have to be able to get past reasonable doubt or else we have  Pirate Smile   Jun-13-05 04:52 PM   #14 
  - yes, pirate.. well said. I would want the same if it were I that was  rodeodance   Jun-13-05 04:55 PM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 04:52 PM   #15 
  - "Maybe there wasn't enough evidence, but regardless..." LOCK HIM UP!  Bluebear   Jun-13-05 04:53 PM   #16 
  - Lets hope that if some neighbor  KennedyGuy   Jun-13-05 04:54 PM   #18 
  - Why Would Pedophiles Cheer This Verdict?  Itsthetruth   Jun-13-05 04:54 PM   #20 
  - Innocent until proven guilty is a valuable LEGAL concept,  mondo joe   Jun-13-05 04:58 PM   #25 
     - There is enough proof that Bush is guilty  FreedomAngel82   Jun-13-05 06:36 PM   #105 
        - There's proof enough Bush is guilty I'd say there's enough for MJ as well  mondo joe   Jun-13-05 08:31 PM   #149 
  - oh for pete's sake "maybe there wasn't enough evidence"  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 04:56 PM   #23 
  - Please divorce yourself from your emotions & listen to what you're saying  prolesunited   Jun-13-05 04:58 PM   #27 
  - Perfect.  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-13-05 05:47 PM   #67 
  - My 7 yo son...  Finder   Jun-13-05 04:59 PM   #29 
  - These two words should brighten your day: Enemy Combatant  stickdog   Jun-13-05 05:02 PM   #35 
  - so are the innocent  CatWoman   Jun-13-05 05:06 PM   #38 
  - This whole thing is suckable. He's probably a pedo, certainly a  roguevalley   Jun-13-05 05:11 PM   #44 
     - I disagree with you all around  CatWoman   Jun-13-05 05:13 PM   #45 
     - What did he ever do to you?  Kraklen   Jun-13-05 05:14 PM   #49 
     - "The next one" . . .why no other victims since 1993?  Bluebear   Jun-13-05 05:16 PM   #50 
  - You know who's not cheering?  Kraklen   Jun-13-05 05:09 PM   #39 
  - Bull.  Tinoire   Jun-13-05 05:10 PM   #42 
  - Neither am I and I'm happy about it too  classicfilmfan   Jun-13-05 06:18 PM   #87 
  - What did she do to Leno???  FreedomAngel82   Jun-13-05 06:39 PM   #108 
     - They tried to shake Leno down too so he testified for MJ's defense  Tinoire   Jun-13-05 09:27 PM   #153 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:16 PM   #51 
  - and yet that's our current foreign policy.......  CatWoman   Jun-13-05 05:17 PM   #52 
  - Oooh yeah  FreedomAngel82   Jun-13-05 06:47 PM   # 
  - I was expressing my opinion. I watched the trial and was convinced  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 05:21 PM   #53 
     - Did you go watch the actual trial  Debi   Jun-13-05 05:37 PM   #61 
     - I have my opinion.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 05:43 PM   #64 
        - You said you watched the trial....did you? n/t  Debi   Jun-13-05 05:44 PM   #65 
           - Yes, I watched it on t.v.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:08 PM   #78 
              - But it wasn't televised.  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:12 PM   #81 
              - I heard the evidence on t.v. Happy?  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:13 PM   #82 
                 - No, because all the evidence did not end up on t.v.  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:18 PM   #88 
                    - excellent exchange, Debi  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 06:28 PM   #95 
                    - Thanks  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:30 PM   #97 
                       - LOL...me too  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 06:32 PM   #100 
                    - MJ has a very long record of these accusations.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:32 PM   #98 
                       - I'm not arguing the case either - I'm just accepting the verdict  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:37 PM   #106 
                          - Back at ya.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:39 PM   #109 
                             - What the hell is that supposed to mean?  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:47 PM   #117 
              - You have GOT to be kidding  Joacheme Misrahe   Jun-13-05 07:29 PM   #142 
     - You watched the trial like Bush watched the first plane hit the WTC...N/T  gmsage   Jun-13-05 09:51 PM   #157 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:29 PM   #54 
  - hahahahahaha  CatWoman   Jun-13-05 05:29 PM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:32 PM   #57 
     - droll  CatWoman   Jun-13-05 05:34 PM   #58 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:35 PM   #59 
  - No more excuses for"Friends" and famous  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 05:31 PM   #56 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 05:39 PM   #63 
  - I belive in the jury system,the system  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 05:56 PM   #69 
     - I feel the jury was more sane about it than you are being  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-13-05 05:58 PM   #71 
     - And other witnesses accepted bribes to keep secrets  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 05:59 PM   #72 
        - All of it created reasonable doubt, including his testimony  nothingshocksmeanymore   Jun-13-05 06:01 PM   #74 
           - And they let him off  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:04 PM   #128 
     - One in three girls are raped before the age of 18?  crispini   Jun-13-05 06:03 PM   #75 
        - Don't want to ad fuel to this fire  Debi   Jun-13-05 06:34 PM   #103 
        - Here  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:12 PM   #129 
  - question  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 05:51 PM   #68 
     - Not totally  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:08 PM   #79 
        - i agree with you, actually  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 06:16 PM   #84 
           - Thanks it feels good to be heard  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:15 PM   #131 
  - oh get over it  amazona   Jun-13-05 05:36 PM   #60 
  - And shakedown artists everywhere are crying....  OneTwentyoNine   Jun-13-05 05:38 PM   #62 
  - I have a 12 year old son and  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-13-05 05:46 PM   #66 
  - Pedophiles are majority WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICANS ask the FBI for a profil  Reptilian   Jun-13-05 05:57 PM   #70 
  - WHAT???????????????  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:00 PM   #73 
     - I don't think that's the definition of "majority"....  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-13-05 06:11 PM   #80 
        - Ask the FBI for a profile of a child molester or child killer. I bet it  Reptilian   Jun-13-05 06:14 PM   #83 
           - That's because the majority of Americans are Caucasian.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:18 PM   #86 
           - so people should be guilty because they are freak, or  Reptilian   Jun-13-05 06:24 PM   #93 
              - So pedophiles should get off if parents of the kids  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 06:38 PM   #107 
                 - I am a PROUD AMERICAN who is proud to live in the USA I also believe  Reptilian   Jun-13-05 06:46 PM   #115 
                    - I'm talking about protecting kids.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 07:01 PM   #125 
                       - Thanks!!  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:17 PM   #133 
                          - What the hell is the matter here? I can't believe that so many people  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 09:20 PM   #151 
           - When I lived in Utah  classicfilmfan   Jun-13-05 07:32 PM   #143 
  - Such an amazing amount of scary bullshit  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 06:03 PM   #77 
  - Look  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:19 PM   #89 
     - And this has NOTHING to do with Jackson  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 06:26 PM   #94 
        - What was jackson on trial for?  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:00 PM   #124 
           - Ya, okay.  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 07:14 PM   #130 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 07:22 PM   #136 
                 - I'm not being mean to you. I don't even know you.  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 07:29 PM   #141 
                    - Well sarcastic quips hurt and I am asking you to stop it.  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:32 PM   #144 
                       - Thanks  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 08:03 PM   #146 
  - Are you one who wanted Michael hung  donheld   Jun-13-05 06:17 PM   #85 
  - I don't remember  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:24 PM   #92 
  - Maybe there wasn't enough evidence???  Ravy   Jun-13-05 06:20 PM   #90 
  - That's right....guilty until proven innocent. And if found innocent,....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jun-13-05 06:29 PM   #96 
  - Plausible deniability is not innocent.  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:40 PM   #110 
     - I have a feeling you wouldn't have let your kids be with him...  Ravy   Jun-13-05 06:46 PM   #116 
        - I still have reasonable doubt when I look at the evidence.  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:03 PM   #127 
           - So you have reasonable doubt...but you would have convicted him?  SemiCharmedQuark   Jun-13-05 09:23 PM   #152 
  - Ok Be frightened  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:35 PM   #104 
     - Sorry, I have been on the other side of wrongful allegations...  Ravy   Jun-13-05 06:42 PM   #112 
        - This is why I turn down jury duty  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:25 PM   #137 
  - NeoCons everywhere are cheering posts like yours.  Media_Lies_Daily   Jun-13-05 06:33 PM   #101 
  - Ask me if I care what the neocons think?  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:43 PM   #114 
     - Why do you keep replying to people who are replying  RetroLounge   Jun-13-05 08:11 PM   #147 
        - Well, I'm the OP and I agree with everything he said.  MyPetRock   Jun-13-05 09:37 PM   #155 
           - and you're both wrong  RetroLounge   Jun-14-05 11:55 AM   #172 
  - Kids of lunatic gold-digging parents  dolo amber   Jun-13-05 06:34 PM   #102 
  - I have to agree. It was five years ago or more that he paid  katinmn   Jun-13-05 06:41 PM   #111 
     - Yes  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:47 PM   #118 
  - Yeah, that poor family of Grifters and Con-Artists  Sandpiper   Jun-13-05 06:42 PM   #113 
  - Geez  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:55 PM   #121 
     - Geez, indeed  Sandpiper   Jun-13-05 07:00 PM   #123 
  - You either believe in our Justice system or you don't  spanone   Jun-13-05 06:49 PM   #119 
  - The justice system works  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 06:59 PM   #122 
  - How "unsafe" did you feel over the numerous church molestations? Do  linazelle   Jun-13-05 06:51 PM   #120 
  - I don't go to any churches  undergroundpanther   Jun-13-05 07:28 PM   #140 
  - they're not supposed to convict innocent people  Cocoa   Jun-13-05 07:02 PM   #126 
  - Whatever.  cat_girl25   Jun-13-05 07:16 PM   #132 
  - I'm more afraid of parents that whore their children out. n/t  progressivebydesign   Jun-13-05 07:18 PM   #134 
  - I'm more afraid of parents that whore their children out. n/t  progressivebydesign   Jun-13-05 07:18 PM   #135 
  - Title should be: Christian Republican White Males everywhere are cheering  Reptilian   Jun-13-05 07:26 PM   #138 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-13-05 07:27 PM   #139 
  - This person probably still thinks Ray Buckey is guilty  U4ikLefty   Jun-13-05 07:36 PM   #145 
  - Pedophiles are the worst of humanity. The verdict is sickening.  boohootwo   Jun-13-05 08:52 PM   #150 
  - you're buying into the mythology perpetuated by the media . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-14-05 01:50 AM   #161 
     - Pedophilia: Sexual attraction felt by an adult towards a child.  boohootwo   Jun-14-05 09:18 AM   #168 
        - may well be, but it doesn't mean that those so attracted . . .  OneBlueSky   Jun-14-05 12:05 PM   #174 
  - I think MJ is strange, I don't think he is a pedophile.  Blue State Native   Jun-13-05 09:31 PM   #154 
  - And what do you need evidence for?.. you've got your opinion....  gmsage   Jun-13-05 09:45 PM   #156 
  - perhaps you'd be better off living in a country without a jury system...  LiberallyInclined   Jun-14-05 12:39 AM   #159 
  - Did anyone see him do it with your own 2 eyes?  Freedomfried   Jun-14-05 12:41 AM   #160 
  - Jeezus, get a cause!  NVMojo   Jun-14-05 05:12 AM   #163 
  - Many of the loudest "newscasters' found him guilty prior to the verdict--  rodeodance   Jun-14-05 05:28 AM   #165 
     - What bothers me the most is this............  Alacon   Jun-14-05 05:38 AM   #166 
  - I don't think it will affect pedophile cases in general  shadowknows69   Jun-14-05 06:29 AM   #167 
  - The jury found the accusers not credible  AndreaCG   Jun-14-05 10:45 AM   #169 
  - Uh, Maybe he IS innocent?............. And, YOU are the sicko?  TWiley   Jun-14-05 10:50 AM   #170 
  - And people who believe in the Constitution are relieved.  UdoKier   Jun-14-05 11:57 AM   #173 
  - Have we gotten out the pitchforks and torches?  RBHam   Jun-14-05 12:08 PM   #175 
  - If any thread should be summarily locked as flame-bait, this should.  Mairead   Jun-14-05 12:19 PM   #176 
  - Locking.....  Moderator   Jun-14-05 02:04 PM   #177 
 

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