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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #50
51. I wasn't aware somebody was looking for compassion and empathy here
I thought we were talking about Wal-Mart's business practices. I can have compassion for the less fortunate and still state my belief that Wal-Mart is neither evil nor the cause of the problem.

For the record, I support neither job offshoring nor tax cuts for the wealthy...
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  -Wal-Mart is the perfect example of how good economic work earthmama  Jun-13-05 07:51 AM   #0 
  - Wal-Mart *is* the perfect example...  trotsky   Jun-13-05 07:57 AM   #1 
  - How about just not shopping at Wal-Mart if you don't like what they do?  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 07:58 AM   #2 
  - The only WalMart I've ever been in was a depressing dump.  Bridget Burke   Jun-13-05 08:01 AM   #3 
  - Try a Marc's some time.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 08:03 AM   #5 
  - No, you should definately blame Wal-Mart  quisp   Jun-13-05 08:41 AM   #8 
     - Isn't that more commonly known as free enterprise?  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 08:49 AM   #9 
     - the notion that businesses are only responsible to their shareholders  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 09:13 AM   #20 
     - it's a right-wing notion at its core  Bill McBlueState   Jun-13-05 09:25 AM   #29 
     - I didn't say that I liked the idea, it's just a truth.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:30 AM   #32 
     - Giving someone what they want isn't necessarily a moral act.  SmokingJacket   Jun-13-05 10:31 AM   #63 
     - Pure Adam Smith economics is pretty much out of date.  Ron_Green   Jun-13-05 10:58 AM   #66 
     - That's simply not true.  Clark2008   Jun-13-05 09:44 PM   #74 
  - How good economics works.... where in China?  whistle   Jun-13-05 08:01 AM   #4 
  - if the market were free, there would be no government regulation.  Massacure   Jun-13-05 08:22 AM   #6 
  - Ummm...that's how they keep prices so low...  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 08:40 AM   #7 
     - I don't necessarily think that most people would "want" those low prices  trotsky   Jun-13-05 08:54 AM   #10 
     - I guess my issue is this:  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 08:58 AM   #14 
     - I don't see any problem with demonizing Wal-Mart.  trotsky   Jun-13-05 09:03 AM   #16 
        - That's fine. I think it's a product of emotionalizing the issue, though.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:13 AM   #19 
           - Wow, you really don't know what it's like for other income groups, do you?  trotsky   Jun-13-05 09:15 AM   #22 
           - I see "help-wanted" signs almost everywhere I go.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:22 AM   #26 
              - You're confirming my point.  trotsky   Jun-13-05 09:26 AM   #30 
                 - Of COURSE the job market is regional...  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:33 AM   #33 
                 - Wal-Mart takes advantage of regional economics.  trotsky   Jun-13-05 09:37 AM   #36 
                    - Let's just agree to disagree.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:40 AM   #37 
                 - He lives in Westlake, a well-to-do suburb of Cleveland.  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 09:36 AM   #35 
                    - Yes, I do  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:50 AM   #44 
                    - It's not the perspective in question -  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 09:59 AM   #50 
                       - I wasn't aware somebody was looking for compassion and empathy here  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 10:03 AM   #51 
                          - But see, you're NOT compassionate . .  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 10:13 AM   #56 
                             - I'd disagree.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 10:20 AM   #59 
                    - And, after checking YOUR profile, Avon Lake ain't no slum, either...  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:58 AM   #49 
                       - The difference between Avon Flake and Westlake  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 10:03 AM   #53 
                          - Some are, some aren't.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 10:10 AM   #55 
           - What is the goal of business?  buddyhollysghost   Jun-13-05 10:25 AM   #61 
     - No, people will continue to shop there  prolesunited   Jun-13-05 11:06 AM   #67 
        - That's true, I guess it has to start affecting them more directly  trotsky   Jun-13-05 11:31 AM   #71 
     - To all involved?  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 08:56 AM   #11 
     - No, to Wal-Mart's shareholders  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:01 AM   #15 
     - i'm sure Wal-Mart's employees want health insurance too  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 08:56 AM   #12 
        - Exactly!  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:05 AM   #17 
        - Yeah, who cares that  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 09:16 AM   #23 
        - I'm not sure what you mean by "faith-based crapshoot-ology", but  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:18 AM   #24 
           - Wal Mart is DEFINITELY the cause of a ballooning Trade Deficit.  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 09:23 AM   #27 
              - THE cause??? You're kidding, right?  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:29 AM   #31 
                 - Sure, because the common man can do that so easily!  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 09:43 AM   #40 
                 - I'm just suggesting that Wal-Mart is a product of existing laws, not the  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:46 AM   #42 
                 - There's a bit of chicken/egg thing going on here.  NCevilDUer   Jun-13-05 09:52 AM   #45 
                    - I agree that Wal-Mart compounds the problems, but I still think  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:57 AM   #47 
                       - unfair labor practices used to catch people's attention  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 10:14 AM   #57 
                          - Labor is definitely in trouble.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 10:15 AM   #58 
                             - i hope things work out for you  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 10:26 AM   #62 
        - the issue is: who pays for Wal-Mart's sick employees?  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 09:20 AM   #25 
           - The same people who pay for health care for the unemployed...  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:24 AM   #28 
              - you are correct about that  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 09:40 AM   #38 
                 - We do agree on that.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:43 AM   #39 
                 - How do we subsidize someone  pnb   Jun-13-05 09:44 AM   #41 
                    - no legal requirement...i suppose that's the same as obligation  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 09:49 AM   #43 
                       - I agree with you that it is good business  pnb   Jun-13-05 10:09 AM   #54 
                          -'s a benefit  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 10:21 AM   #60 
        - Like He Said, Walmart's Business Model Has Benefits and Drawbacks  GiovanniC   Jun-13-05 09:05 AM   #18 
  - Walmart is filling a market niche.  newportdadde   Jun-13-05 08:58 AM   #13 
  - Thanks, that's part of what I was attempting to say.  MercutioATC   Jun-13-05 09:14 AM   #21 
  - apples and oranges  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 09:34 AM   #34 
     - You have heard, of course, that the only Walmart in North America  NCevilDUer   Jun-13-05 09:58 AM   #48 
        - no, of course not  noiretblu   Jun-13-05 10:03 AM   #52 
  - My reply to this.......  demgurl   Jun-13-05 09:56 AM   #46 
  - Wallmart is an excellent example of externalizing costs  depakid   Jun-13-05 10:51 AM   #64 
  - If good economics works by replacing high-paying jobs with low-paying ones  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-13-05 10:53 AM   #65 
  - I think "bad economics" also involves . . .  HughBeaumont   Jun-13-05 11:07 AM   #68 
  - The race to the bottom in terms of prices and wages is NOT good  fob   Jun-13-05 11:09 AM   #69 
  - I've worked for Wal-Mart  _testify_   Jun-13-05 11:25 AM   #70 
  - Good point  Pockets   Jun-13-05 11:56 AM   #72 
  - Point out that Walmart using its size to keep the costs from suppliers  applegrove   Jun-13-05 09:40 PM   #73 
  - You are supporting China's military  nomatrix   Jun-14-05 04:04 AM   #75 
  - here is the bestest response earthmama  nomatrix   Jun-14-05 04:22 AM   #76 
  - Buying the Dragons Teeth  nomatrix   Jun-14-05 04:54 AM   #77 
  - Wal-Mart IS a GREAT EXAMPLE of "good economics"  Selatius   Jun-14-05 05:53 AM   #78 
  - ALL retail sucks.  tjwash   Jun-14-05 06:41 AM   #79 

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