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Sun Jun-12-05 09:57 AM
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People - Sorry to say it, but a black Democrat is not going to win a US Senate seat in our state UNLESS he can get a significant number of independent and moderate Republican votes. Ford has moved to the right because it is the only way he is going to get elected. Would you rather have another Frist (the seat he's running for)? I'd take a conservative Democrat in a second over any Republican. If you want Ted Kennedy to be the chair of the Judiciary Committee again, it's going to require you to support conservative Democrats in conservative states.
If I were advising Ford, I'd tell him he's doing it exactly right. People forget Bill Clinton was a DLC Democrat when he got elected in 92. But once he got into power, he appealed broadly to Democrats. I believe once Ford wins the seat, he'll moderate.
Incidentally, Hilary is doing the exact same thing right now. She's no idiot.
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| -Rep. Harold Ford...STFU |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 09:44 AM |
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Hey Mr. Ford...... |
dennis4868 |
Jun-12-05 09:46 AM |
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Harold Ford is no Democrat. he's a repuke in Dem clothing. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-12-05 09:46 AM |
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I saw him speak last summer before the election. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 09:48 AM |
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Perhaps Rep. Ford |
atreides1 |
Jun-12-05 09:48 AM |
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E-mail him and let him know what a fool he is. |
murielm99 |
Jun-12-05 09:49 AM |
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The alternative? |
DemFromMem |
Jun-12-05 09:57 AM |
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I disagree. He was FOR THE INVASION OF IRAQ. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 10:09 AM |
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Ford is ALWAYS running for something |
tishaLA |
Jun-12-05 11:48 AM |
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PEOPLE (what an arrogant thing to say) Going to the right is wrong. |
leesa |
Jun-12-05 10:11 AM |
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Shhhh...You're Speaking Reality |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-12-05 10:18 AM |
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yes, pragmatism is one thing |
Beacho |
Jun-12-05 10:46 AM |
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"to really make a difference" |
Toots |
Jun-12-05 11:15 AM |
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Party labels matter |
DemFromMem |
Jun-12-05 11:48 AM |
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sigh, you're right |
Bill McBlueState |
Jun-12-05 12:46 PM |
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You're so totally wrong |
depakid |
Jun-12-05 03:14 PM |
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Crawl, Walk, Run, Fly... |
KharmaTrain |
Jun-12-05 11:55 AM |
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Hard right Republicans had 100% ratings from NARAL and... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 01:13 PM |
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misjudgements |
DemFromMem |
Jun-12-05 11:43 AM |
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Good post |
tishaLA |
Jun-12-05 11:53 AM |
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Here's the alternative |
me b zola |
Jun-12-05 10:33 AM |
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Not a chance |
DemFromMem |
Jun-12-05 11:50 AM |
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Yep... I don't know of a Dem sole in RL who is voting for Rosalinda |
Clark2008 |
Jun-12-05 07:28 PM |
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Thank you!!! I'll take her any day over Ford. I met her and I really |
tnlefty |
Jun-12-05 02:38 PM |
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What do her poll numbers look like? n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 02:44 PM |
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RL Dems in the state (other than those in or near her district) |
Clark2008 |
Jun-12-05 07:30 PM |
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Done. Thanks for the link. n/t |
Jade Fox |
Jun-12-05 10:36 AM |
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Be sure to post this in the State forum too n/t |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-12-05 09:50 AM |
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I agree |
pstans |
Jun-12-05 09:53 AM |
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i agree. here is his quote from imus. nauseating. |
bullimiami |
Jun-12-05 09:53 AM |
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You know what Harold, as DNC chariman he DOES SPEAK FOR YOU. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 09:56 AM |
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hey Harry |
darboy |
Jun-12-05 10:32 AM |
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you mean he's not white? and not a Republican? |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Jun-12-05 10:48 AM |
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show me where Dean said Christianity is only for white males |
LSK |
Jun-12-05 10:59 AM |
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Unbelievable |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 11:38 AM |
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OK, Harold |
stickdog |
Jun-12-05 12:21 PM |
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NO HAROLD.... |
flyarm |
Jun-12-05 01:07 PM |
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Where the hell do all these Black Dems... |
slor |
Jun-12-05 09:53 AM |
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Obama? |
buff2 |
Jun-12-05 10:05 AM |
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Probably not from his DNA |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-12-05 10:06 AM |
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No, I am saying as... |
slor |
Jun-12-05 10:34 AM |
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I'm curious |
jobycom |
Jun-12-05 12:10 PM |
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Your comments make a great deal of sense... |
slor |
Jun-12-05 01:28 PM |
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I think |
darboy |
Jun-12-05 10:33 AM |
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Rosaland Kurita is a Dem running against Ford for the Senate |
me b zola |
Jun-12-05 10:30 AM |
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the real question is - |
paulk |
Jun-12-05 10:43 AM |
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A (D) next to their name doesn't make a damn bit of difference...... |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jun-12-05 10:44 AM |
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She may have a chance...the name Harold Ford stinks in TN right now. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 10:45 AM |
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is she really an improvement on Ford? |
paulk |
Jun-12-05 03:09 PM |
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if they have a "D" after their name, but vote with the "R"s |
me b zola |
Jun-12-05 11:34 AM |
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a "D" next to the name is still important |
paulk |
Jun-12-05 03:07 PM |
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Fucking Moonie & PNAC sellout |
AntiCoup2K4 |
Jun-12-05 10:38 AM |
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Ford is the poster boy for the DLC & cheerleader for those attacking Dean |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jun-12-05 11:00 AM |
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And the DU "Reign of Terror" continues.... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:05 AM |
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Have no idea what you are talking about? |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:06 AM |
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And THAT is the problem, isn't it? n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:09 AM |
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Not for me |
Don Claybrook |
Jun-12-05 11:18 AM |
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It will be your problem eventually. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:25 AM |
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Can you perhaps explain why |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 11:43 AM |
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You're not understanding this issue |
Don Claybrook |
Jun-12-05 11:49 AM |
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Should he be criticized? Of course. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:02 PM |
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There's no cat to let out of the bag |
Don Claybrook |
Jun-12-05 12:12 PM |
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You're absolutely right. With that thinking, we "won't be left to ... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:25 PM |
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Thank you. Have a nice day. |
Don Claybrook |
Jun-12-05 12:31 PM |
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He doesn't like it when we say bad things about Democrats. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-12-05 11:19 AM |
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No. I don't like it when you don't know how to run a "revolution". |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:22 AM |
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Oh really? And where the hell is YOUR revolution? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-12-05 11:33 AM |
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Learn the lessons of the past. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:42 AM |
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The torch-wielding mob in this instance |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 11:47 AM |
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That is what the Jacobins said about the Girondists. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:51 AM |
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That's what the Maquis said about the Milice and Pierre Laval. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-12-05 12:10 PM |
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And, hopefully, unlike Robespierre.... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:11 PM |
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Comparing the left to Robespierre and the Terror is rational? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-12-05 12:18 PM |
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Please, I am not comparing the Terror to the left. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:28 PM |
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But did the Girondists organize a concerted attack |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 12:10 PM |
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The Girondists definitely had their differences with the true Jacobins... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:23 PM |
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That's a valid point |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 12:39 PM |
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I agree that it doesn't help. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:50 PM |
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Geez, you can qoute history all day long but can't find a current qoute? |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 12:58 PM |
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Ummm...since it happened about 4 hours ago (you knew that didn't... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 01:02 PM |
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You're right, that's not exactly correct |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 01:15 PM |
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I'm SICK TO DEATH of chickenshit Dems attacking brave Dems for |
stickdog |
Jun-12-05 12:28 PM |
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It all depends on what your plan is, and the thought you've put .... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:30 PM |
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My plan is to support Dems who have the balls to stand up to Repukes |
stickdog |
Jun-12-05 12:54 PM |
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Now we're a torch wielding mob? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jun-12-05 11:57 AM |
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Zell we can agree on. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:09 PM |
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Oh, so crowning Reverend Moon is part of a "rational plan" |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 12:33 PM |
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Where have I said the "rational plan" was Ford's to exercise? |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:35 PM |
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And what is that "rational plan?" Not to protest when "prominent" Dems |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 12:42 PM |
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So, who are you going to run in Tennessee? |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:59 PM |
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See, this is where your historical analogy goes way off track |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 01:04 PM |
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I wasn't implying that you had said that. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 01:05 PM |
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But are they really? I think most people are just saying "STFU!" |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 01:26 PM |
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If that's possible. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 01:46 PM |
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Thanks, I hate to let my ignorance show but....... |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:43 AM |
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Ford is a DLC New Democrat. |
Lars39 |
Jun-12-05 11:13 AM |
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And Brissot was a Girondist. Why should we not chop off his head? |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:19 AM |
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As voters, our job is to distinguish who we will vote for, eh? |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:32 AM |
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Yes, and handing his head to Napoleon... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:33 AM |
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Continue to dilute the party with "Third Way" candidates |
Lars39 |
Jun-12-05 11:36 AM |
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Again, learn your history. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:44 AM |
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We should all be as enlightened as you think you are! |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:48 AM |
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I work hard at researching and learning. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 11:55 AM |
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Don't worry, 'we' have nothing to discuss. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 12:04 PM |
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That's a shame. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:10 PM |
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No shame, you have already presumed my opinions so |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 12:17 PM |
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"Third Way" came out of RW think tanks, |
Lars39 |
Jun-12-05 12:03 PM |
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Exactly |
Frederik |
Jun-12-05 12:23 PM |
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and lets defend people who go on Imus and misquote/misunderstand Dean... |
LSK |
Jun-12-05 11:52 AM |
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And, the Petains are here to defend the Ancien Regime. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-12-05 12:05 PM |
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If by the Ancien Regime, you mean the last 30 years.... |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:16 PM |
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Hello, hello? Reverend Moon? Don't want to talk about that, I see |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 12:28 PM |
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No. You mistake my point as a defense of Ford. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:33 PM |
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Sorry, guess I got sidetracked by the French Revolution |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 12:38 PM |
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I've stated that he (and others) should be criticized for it. |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:53 PM |
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That's all well and good, and I even agree, to a point |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 01:00 PM |
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I believe that is exactly what HE understands. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 01:04 PM |
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Then why your defense of the collaborator? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jun-12-05 12:43 PM |
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Where have I defended Ford? |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 12:55 PM |
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Your historical analogies are ludicrous |
Ms. Clio |
Jun-12-05 12:09 PM |
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Dear Mr. Ford |
DancingBear |
Jun-12-05 11:07 AM |
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Ford showed his opportunism when he, with few years of experience, |
salin |
Jun-12-05 11:10 AM |
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do we have some sort of quota that must be met? |
ldf |
Jun-12-05 11:31 AM |
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I don't care if Harold Jr. is purple. It is not about his race. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:36 AM |
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Ford and all the other DLCers |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Jun-12-05 11:35 AM |
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The lesson of Reagan |
dbaker41 |
Jun-12-05 11:48 AM |
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That's the real difference in our parties, We are willing to debate. |
spanone |
Jun-12-05 11:52 AM |
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and Harold thinks by posturing like this increases his chance of |
FLPolitico |
Jun-12-05 11:52 AM |
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He is a smug bastard |
UdoKier |
Jun-12-05 12:13 PM |
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I'm SICK TO DEATH of chickenshit Dems attacking brave Dems for |
stickdog |
Jun-12-05 12:33 PM |
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My take on Harold Ford... |
kentuck |
Jun-12-05 12:36 PM |
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"Grew up as a political child" in a CORRUPT TENN. political family. |
AngryWhiteLiberal |
Jun-12-05 12:41 PM |
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This ass doesn't own the state of Tennessee. |
cat_girl25 |
Jun-12-05 12:59 PM |
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You have to understand people like George Bush. He's a nice guy! |
Tinoire |
Jun-12-05 01:00 PM |
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Very telling info you provided, there. |
bling bling |
Jun-12-05 01:10 PM |
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Spent my time not telling Ford to shut up, but |
Pithy Cherub |
Jun-12-05 01:15 PM |
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You might consider |
wndycty |
Jun-12-05 02:49 PM |
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Thanks for the info, wndycty. n/t |
tx_dem41 |
Jun-12-05 03:03 PM |
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Ford has helped make Dean a political rock star. |
Pithy Cherub |
Jun-12-05 03:18 PM |
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Why did you only pull the negative comment made about her |
tnlefty |
Jun-12-05 03:42 PM |
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If the primary challenge is unsuccessful- consider |
depakid |
Jun-12-05 03:08 PM |
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Even if means recapturing control of the senate? |
wndycty |
Jun-12-05 03:15 PM |
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Maybe- it's long term thing |
depakid |
Jun-12-05 03:19 PM |
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Is he the State Chair for TN? |
mandyky |
Jun-12-05 03:10 PM |
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