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IrateCitizen

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Thu Jun-02-05 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #25

28. How can you still say that the reforms were on the right track???

the real thing is true skills training and educations, and child care. those are the sticking points, in my mind. that and transportation.

The welfare reform bill did not even approach addressing ANY of these adequately, and yet somehow you still portray it as being "on the right track"????

:wtf:

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-What's your Vision for America?	MsTryska	Jun-01-05 09:22 AM	#0
- No Welfare? Define Welfare if you excuse my	bennywhale	Jun-01-05 09:25 AM	#1
- The government gives you a little money.	sexybomber	Jun-01-05 09:29 AM	#3
- Welfare as in Public Assistance....	MsTryska	Jun-01-05 09:35 AM	#6
- That sounds very much like the argument the New Right was proposing	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 07:59 AM	#8
- Well call it what you will.....	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 08:49 AM	#9
- "the people who truly don't want to work is miniscule"	GreenArrow	Jun-02-05 09:01 AM	#11
- Buying into the myths of Clinton's welfare "reform"...	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:02 AM	#13
- wait a second.......	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:07 AM	#16
- Clinton's compromise with the RW took away more than it provided...	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:14 AM	#17
- you are correct	GreenArrow	Jun-02-05 09:16 AM	#18
- To be honest i haven't been paying close attention	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:22 AM	#20
- Like I said, that was a result of the stock market boom	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:34 AM	#23
- That makes sense.	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:58 AM	#25
- How can you still say that the reforms were on the right track???	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 10:06 AM	#28
- well the thought was there.....	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 10:09 AM	#30
- You're misrepresenting what you first said. you said "No Welfare"	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 09:06 AM	#15
- no. you didn't fully understand how i'm putting the pieces together......	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:20 AM	#19
- If War is declared the military becomes compulsory? I see your	bennywhale	Jun-01-05 09:28 AM	#2
- I think that people didn't think it thorugh carefully	MsTryska	Jun-01-05 09:34 AM	#4
- Your still proposing forced labour however.	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 07:54 AM	#7
- yes, and also forced taxation. nt	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 08:50 AM	#10
- Robert Nozick would be proud of your disinegenuous link between	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 09:01 AM	#12
- I don't see Compulsory Service as deeply immoral.	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:23 AM	#21
- Are you saying that as someone who served in the military?	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:35 AM	#24
- Military Family, yes.	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 09:59 AM	#26
- I served in the military, and I'd hate to see compulsory military service.	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 10:05 AM	#27
- I'd be okay with that as an alternate.	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 10:10 AM	#31
- You will always have belligerent and false wars in a militarized society.	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 10:14 AM	#33
- How can forced labour not be immoral. Its tantamount to slavery.	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 06:48 PM	#38
- and i hate living in a society	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 08:15 PM	#42
- I'm assuming by your last comment you believe that i don't think there	bennywhale	Jun-04-05 07:39 AM	#53
- where did you get the idea that i believe there should	MsTryska	Jun-04-05 09:16 AM	#54
- Pancakes for everybody	bryant69	Jun-01-05 09:35 AM	#5
- As long as mine have chocolate chips!	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:03 AM	#14
- Are you interested in my utopian vision, or reality as I see it?	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 09:32 AM	#22
- Hey thanks for playing!	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 10:08 AM	#29
- Desperate times call for desparate measures...	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 10:12 AM	#32
- True. My main concern with the cap	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 10:53 AM	#34
- Europe's trick...	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 11:16 AM	#36
- Its also to do with immigration. Europe's birth rate is lower but not	bennywhale	Jun-02-05 06:52 PM	#40
- You make good points.....	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 08:17 PM	#43
- in re: childbirth limits/population growth	GreenArrow	Jun-02-05 10:59 AM	#35
- Reply	IrateCitizen	Jun-02-05 11:22 AM	#37
- Just another country.	Taxloss	Jun-02-05 06:52 PM	#39
- ?!	MsTryska	Jun-02-05 08:12 PM	#41
- Well, YOU don't, personally.	Taxloss	Jun-02-05 08:34 PM	#46
- ahh...you are speaking as soemone from the UK.....	MsTryska	Jun-03-05 06:59 AM	#48
- It was far from perfect	Lannes	Jun-02-05 08:19 PM	#44
- hell....	MsTryska	Jun-03-05 07:02 AM	#49
- See> Dennis Kucinich	sweetheart	Jun-02-05 08:27 PM	#45
- Yeah...the basics would definitely	MsTryska	Jun-03-05 07:03 AM	#50
- I see another "terra" attack and martial law. Lines will be drawn.	maveric	Jun-02-05 08:45 PM	#47
- a gay fantasia cross between Xanadu, Moulin Rouge, and the Wiz.	NuttyFluffers	Jun-03-05 07:11 AM	#51
- Sadly ...	Nihil	Jun-03-05 07:32 AM	#52

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