You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #59: Because hair is different does not mean that it is more difficult [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #45
59. Because hair is different does not mean that it is more difficult
You are making the assumption that because it is different, it is more difficult. That isn't necessarily so, for a wide variety of reasons already stated in this thread. The specific texture of hair, whether or not it is already permed, the style it is worn it (high-maintenance or low?) can be true of either whites or blacks.

My wife is black, wears her hair in a short natural, cuts it herself, or I cut it for her, washes her hair daily, never goes to the salon. This is one extreme, and it is very low maintenance.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -AL salon charges black women $15 more than white women for hair care BurtWorm  May-31-05 10:29 AM   #0 
  - It IS bullshit, but I could actually see it being an innocent idiocy.  Vash the Stampede   May-31-05 10:32 AM   #1 
  - Yes, I can kind of see that.  crispini   May-31-05 10:38 AM   #3 
  - Do salons that specialize in black women's hair charge more  BurtWorm   May-31-05 10:44 AM   #8 
  - I don't know either.  crispini   May-31-05 11:00 AM   #13 
  - not really  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:44 PM   #38 
  - drycleaners also charge more for a "blouse"  FLDem5   May-31-05 05:32 PM   #44 
  - Believe it or not, there is a theoretically valid argument for that  AntiCoup2K4   Jun-01-05 10:16 AM   #55 
     - And there is a valid argument for hair, too  blurp   Jun-03-05 05:19 AM   #99 
  - Yes they do.  Horse with no Name   May-31-05 11:22 PM   #48 
  - One kind of hair?  Karenina   May-31-05 11:09 AM   #15 
     - hey there  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:33 PM   #33 
        - Rinse, lather, rinse  Karenina   May-31-05 04:19 PM   #40 
  - Simple solution? Charge by time+materials, not by service.  eyesroll   May-31-05 10:40 AM   #5 
  - I've never worked in one either, but I don't think it's feasible.  Vash the Stampede   May-31-05 10:41 AM   #6 
  - You really want to put that accounting burden  mnmod   May-31-05 10:42 AM   #7 
     - Well, plenty of small companies already do time+materials.  eyesroll   May-31-05 11:05 AM   #14 
        - still pretty silly...  mnmod   May-31-05 01:05 PM   #17 
           - She's being charged more because she's black.  BurtWorm   May-31-05 01:10 PM   #18 
              - No she is being charged more because her hair is harder to do!  mnmod   May-31-05 01:28 PM   #19 
                 - How do they know her hair is harder to do before they actually do it?  BurtWorm   May-31-05 01:31 PM   #20 
                 - Yes....  mnmod   May-31-05 02:46 PM   #21 
                    - So you think they asked her if she was Irish?  BurtWorm   May-31-05 02:55 PM   #23 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   May-31-05 03:14 PM   #27 
                 - hey we can up and have a huge reaction  mnmod   May-31-05 06:03 PM   #45 
                    - Because hair is different does not mean that it is more difficult  kwassa   Jun-01-05 11:56 AM   #59 
                 - really? how is it that you know what the texture of her hair is?  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:19 PM   #28 
                 - I agree, this is ***NOT**** racism  OKJackson   May-31-05 04:59 PM   #41 
                 - use the word, but you don't seem to grasp  noiretblu   May-31-05 05:30 PM   #42 
                    - Do you run a salon?  mnmod   May-31-05 09:51 PM   #46 
                       - did you read the article?  noiretblu   May-31-05 11:24 PM   #49 
                       - Of course they don't run salons. They just think they know better anyway.  blurp   Jun-03-05 05:28 AM   #101 
                 - Actually, a lot of Irish people have thick, frizzy curls as well...  buddyhollysghost   Jun-01-05 04:26 PM   #68 
                    - have your relatives ever been charged more  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:58 PM   #79 
  -'s just ignorant because not all black women have the same hair  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:23 PM   #30 
  - Well, if it takes more time to do, then it isn't bullshit then, is it?  blurp   Jun-03-05 05:21 AM   #100 
  - Im no expert  mnmod   May-31-05 10:34 AM   #2 
  - really? what is the difference?  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:35 PM   #34 
     - question tho.....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:14 PM   #62 
        - no, not as far as i know  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 04:51 PM   #75 
           - You said she was black right?  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:56 PM   #78 
              - no...not as far as i know  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:03 PM   #80 
                 - So kinda like other Department Store Salons....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 05:11 PM   #85 
                    - frankly...i would never, ever have my hair done in a dept. store  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:13 PM   #86 
                       - don't sleep on Department Stores and Regis and the like tho....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 05:26 PM   #89 
                          - LMAO...  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:39 PM   #92 
  - I can see it being innocent as well. Long-haired gals get charged more  mcscajun   May-31-05 10:39 AM   #4 
  - Men with pattern baldness get charged the same for haircuts as men with  kwassa   May-31-05 10:46 AM   #9 
  - Yeah, but it works out for you get your alterations free  mcscajun   May-31-05 10:50 AM   #12 
  - I never get alterations free! More injustice!  kwassa   May-31-05 11:38 AM   #16 
  - Tell that to the store I just bought a suit from  dsc   May-31-05 03:08 PM   #25 
  - We do? Direct me to THAT store!!  Vash the Stampede   May-31-05 03:41 PM   #37 
  - Not in Barnstable Village.  Pacifist Patriot   May-31-05 05:31 PM   #43 
  - I went once to have my long hair CUT off, and they wanted to charge more  SoCalDem   May-31-05 02:52 PM   #22 
  - Yeah  Piperay   Jun-03-05 04:25 AM   #97 
  - Women's hair cuts costs more than men's too  Mizmoon   May-31-05 10:46 AM   #10 
  - Women's dry cleaning still costs more?  BurtWorm   May-31-05 10:48 AM   #11 
     - nope.. blouses cost more than men's shirts. n/t  progressivebydesign   Jun-01-05 12:17 AM   #53 
  - Not all black people have the same hair texture  DesertedRose   May-31-05 03:02 PM   #24 
  - thanks for stating the obvious  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:22 PM   #29 
  - When my hair was longer paid more for a haircut. Anywhere from five  BlueStateGirl   May-31-05 03:11 PM   #26 
  - mens hair is cheaper to cut then womens  TorchTheWitch   May-31-05 03:24 PM   #31 
  - funny...the rush to excuse this practice  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:29 PM   #32 
  - Who is making excuses? If it takes longer to do someone's hair based on  BlueStateGirl   May-31-05 03:39 PM   #36 
     - ahem..."IF" is the operative word  noiretblu   May-31-05 03:47 PM   #39 
  - Dillard's has a history of racial discrimination:  Lars39   May-31-05 03:37 PM   #35 
  - What would they charge this woman?  Bluebear   May-31-05 09:58 PM   #47 
  - Touche  angee_is_mad   May-31-05 11:52 PM   #50 
  - Does this mean condasleeza had to pay $800 for her inaugural do?  lonestarnot   May-31-05 11:54 PM   #51 
  - We had this discussion before here on DU, another salon.  progressivebydesign   Jun-01-05 12:15 AM   #52 
  - This is an ignorant question, but, what is a "set"?  BurtWorm   Jun-01-05 10:03 AM   #54 
     - a wash and a set  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 10:16 AM   #56 
     - The 75% markup is what gets me.  BurtWorm   Jun-01-05 10:59 AM   #57 
        - well, according to some  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 11:26 AM   #58 
     - a set depends on the style...  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:19 PM   #63 
        - $15 worth of technique?  BurtWorm   Jun-01-05 04:25 PM   #66 
        - it makes sense.....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:35 PM   #69 
           - How much more would you charge for long hair?  BurtWorm   Jun-01-05 04:37 PM   #71 
              - well my hair is pretty long....and  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:49 PM   #74 
        - sets are not generally done on really kinky hair textures  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 04:26 PM   #67 
           - Yeah - you wouldn't do sets on natural hair  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:36 PM   #70 
              - hey...are you a hairstlyist?  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 04:37 PM   #72 
                 - nope.....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 04:53 PM   #76 
                    - one of the funniest books i've ever read was (mostly) about hair  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:07 PM   #82 
                       - i had locks once.....  MsTryska   Jun-01-05 05:21 PM   #88 
                          - LOL...i don't know why some people like those "tails"  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:31 PM   #91 
  - Charging more based on race is clearly discrimination  ultraist   Jun-01-05 12:50 PM   #60 
  - I used to work for a hair care distributor  nomatrix   Jun-01-05 04:07 PM   #61 
  - We don't know what they charge anyone for coloring their hair.  BurtWorm   Jun-01-05 04:21 PM   #64 
  - thanks for the info  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 04:23 PM   #65 
  - I had it happen to me !!!  lynne   Jun-01-05 04:40 PM   #73 
  - they charged you because of the length and texture of your hair  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 04:55 PM   #77 
     - Thank you. That is exactly my point -  lynne   Jun-01-05 11:38 PM   #94 
        - this suit is alleging racial discrimination  noiretblu   Jun-02-05 04:56 PM   #95 
  - My hair may be difficult to manage at times but  jmm   Jun-01-05 05:04 PM   #81 
  - they shouldn't charge at all to experiment  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:09 PM   #83 
  - FACT AA womens hair to style is much more labor intensive  ElsewheresDaughter   Jun-01-05 05:10 PM   #84 
  - does this apply to every AA female in the entire world?  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 05:19 PM   #87 
  - I'm White and my hair is very thick, coarse, and curly.  ccbombs   Jun-03-05 04:29 AM   #98 
  - Ex-wife owned a Salon, Daughter is a Cosmetologist...  BiggJawn   Jun-01-05 05:30 PM   #90 
  - i don't think your comment is racist  noiretblu   Jun-01-05 06:32 PM   #93 
  - I'll take your word on the difference in hair care  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-03-05 05:33 AM   #102 
  - What a crock  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Jun-03-05 03:42 AM   #96 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC