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Wed May-25-05 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #94 |
| 113. "They" are the radical religious rightwingnuts |
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Bush et al, who are pushing their ideologue into our laws. It IS hypocritical to promote "adoption" of a blastocyst while they NEGLECT promoting adoption and the well being of LIVING CHILDREN.
This hypocrisy has NOT been raised just in response to the "snowflake" BS. The hypocrisy of the pro lifers has been discussed ad nauseum here.
The point is: On one hand, these "prolifers" go all out to protect fertilized EGGS (or fetuses), yet, they do NOTHING to ensure living children have parents, or food, housing, medical care and their basic needs met. HYPOCRITES!
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| -I find the "adoption" of embryos to be offensive |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 07:38 AM |
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Oh I don't know. I've always wanted to adopt some goo in a dish |
bluestateguy |
May-25-05 07:40 AM |
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LOL.. |
youthere |
May-25-05 09:13 AM |
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I DO like the no-backtalk aspect of it all. |
elehhhhna |
May-25-05 11:45 AM |
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Yes, but most of those children...clash with the curtains... |
GOPisEvil |
May-25-05 07:40 AM |
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You're absolutely right |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 07:42 AM |
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And "snowflake babies"? Snow is white! |
GOPisEvil |
May-25-05 07:43 AM |
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There's also the yellow snow |
XemaSab |
May-25-05 11:22 AM |
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Oh, to work in one of these labs and get some of the ID #s crossed up |
tk2kewl |
May-25-05 03:09 PM |
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There's not even "little" wait here in Texas. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-25-05 10:29 AM |
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Aww |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-25-05 11:50 AM |
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AMEN |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 07:41 AM |
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As Long As They're Not Brown Babies |
KharmaTrain |
May-25-05 07:43 AM |
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every republican embryo is prescious |
mopaul |
May-25-05 07:47 AM |
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The Verbal Contortions Are Olympic Scale This Morning |
KharmaTrain |
May-25-05 07:50 AM |
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They've now convinced me that science is indeed evil |
Generic Other |
May-25-05 08:55 AM |
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Perfect. "Can you describe, in detail, the process of creating life?" |
blondeatlast |
May-25-05 09:21 AM |
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Sure, but ... |
Deep13 |
May-25-05 10:04 AM |
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and every sperm is sacred ... |
Deep13 |
May-25-05 07:58 AM |
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every sperm is great |
Gruenemann |
May-25-05 11:40 AM |
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What would the neighbors think? |
M155Y_A1CH |
May-25-05 07:49 AM |
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I like my embryos medium to well done. |
valis |
May-25-05 07:47 AM |
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You're a sick little monkey, aren't you? |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 07:50 AM |
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OK :) |
valis |
May-25-05 09:24 AM |
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If one of these embryos are placed in a woman's womb |
Katidid |
May-25-05 07:47 AM |
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OH NO! |
in_cog_ni_to |
May-25-05 07:49 AM |
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following that argument |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 09:16 AM |
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My best friend had three embryos transferred last fall. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-25-05 10:30 AM |
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Oh well said! |
flygal |
May-25-05 01:42 PM |
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AMEN! |
wicket |
May-25-05 07:48 AM |
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Lying lifeless, single-celled, and gool-like |
blondeatlast |
May-25-05 07:49 AM |
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Do you get a tax break? nt. |
jbond56 |
May-25-05 07:50 AM |
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As offensive was the ** photo op yesterday with purportedly born |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
May-25-05 07:51 AM |
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Republican tactics: Play on their emotions rather than logic |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 07:52 AM |
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I can't agree with you. Democrats do feel, but we can also cut through |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
May-25-05 08:26 AM |
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I'll give you that |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:38 AM |
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But my question is |
FreedomAngel82 |
May-25-05 11:58 AM |
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That's very true with some Republicans. Honestly I know several |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
May-25-05 01:38 PM |
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The irony is palpable |
XemaSab |
May-25-05 11:31 AM |
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No argument here. |
Deep13 |
May-25-05 07:57 AM |
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I find offensive your gratuitous opinions on how I should make my family |
Inland |
May-25-05 08:13 AM |
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How about acquire? |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 08:22 AM |
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How about giving people who want children a break |
Inland |
May-25-05 08:30 AM |
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As an adopted American, I refuse to be silenced |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 08:51 AM |
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Unfortunately, no. |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:19 AM |
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This post isn't addressed to me, but I'll respond anyway |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 10:31 AM |
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And yet |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:42 AM |
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Sure |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:24 AM |
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Someone who wants a child |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 09:22 AM |
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But what if they clash with the curtains? |
blondeatlast |
May-25-05 09:32 AM |
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but why???? |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 09:39 AM |
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doesn't sound pro-choice to me. |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:22 AM |
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oh no |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 10:23 AM |
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So they can't have their own, naturally? |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:27 AM |
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Adopted children are unnatural? |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 10:32 AM |
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Ah, now you want to play the word game. |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:37 AM |
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IVF embryos aren't children |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:24 AM |
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That's just playing games with words |
Inland |
May-25-05 11:44 AM |
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If you really think 8 cells equals a human being... |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:48 AM |
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No, I am saying I'm not going to pillory someone for |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:00 PM |
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It's not that and you know it. |
Ripley |
May-25-05 12:05 PM |
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Funny, it seemed like the people "adopting" were being accused of |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:18 PM |
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Most Americans do NOT acquire frozen embryos! |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 12:27 PM |
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Yes, your right to judge. |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:34 PM |
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I'm not sure why you're deliberately misstating the issue |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 12:58 PM |
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Gee, you haven't been around much, have you? |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 12:10 PM |
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Thanks for the education. |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:30 PM |
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Effort wasted, I'm afraid |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 01:00 PM |
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"They" are the radical religious rightwingnuts |
ultraist |
May-25-05 03:59 PM |
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I believe we are discussing other peoples embryos |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 11:21 AM |
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The principle is the same. |
Inland |
May-25-05 11:29 AM |
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When you get pregnant - it is a non-choice about what kind of baby |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 11:33 AM |
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No, its a MADE choice about what kind of baby you will have. |
Inland |
May-25-05 11:49 AM |
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you keep bringing this argument into the realm of the absurd |
FLDem5 |
May-25-05 11:58 AM |
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Your position is absurd; I'm taking it to its logical conclusions. |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:03 PM |
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Children waiting for adoption need parents |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 12:15 PM |
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You looking at me? |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:23 PM |
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Not really |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 01:06 PM |
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"some folks actually choose" - exactly what Inland's been saying |
onenote |
May-25-05 03:06 PM |
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Actually, that was sort of my point, not Inland's |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 03:24 PM |
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I hear what you're saying |
onenote |
May-25-05 03:43 PM |
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It's certainly a more urgent choice |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 03:47 PM |
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No it isn't |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:35 AM |
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Unfortunetaly money has precedence |
Divameow77 |
May-25-05 12:28 PM |
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How about "store bought" precursors? |
displacedtexan |
May-25-05 10:41 AM |
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That's actually the way all adoption works. |
Inland |
May-25-05 10:46 AM |
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What is the priority? |
ultraist |
May-25-05 04:23 PM |
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Thank you! |
Fifth of Five |
May-25-05 08:24 AM |
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Don't tell me you think it is any coincidence |
underpants |
May-25-05 08:28 AM |
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Some idiot asshole this morning on NPR described the embryos as |
spanone |
May-25-05 09:23 AM |
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Good gracious to hell, where do they get this shit? |
blondeatlast |
May-25-05 09:30 AM |
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bwahahahahah "sir may i have another bowl of porridge" |
bleedingheart |
May-25-05 10:34 AM |
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They are eight-celled balls. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-25-05 10:35 AM |
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It's because the soul is assigned at the moment of conception... |
valis |
May-25-05 10:43 AM |
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not necessarily: for example, one could say that the souls are renting |
MisterP |
May-25-05 11:25 AM |
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Good point. The soul could leave the fetus without any damage or pain |
valis |
May-25-05 12:00 PM |
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just goes to so how ignorant they are |
WLKjr |
May-25-05 09:26 AM |
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I don't disagree. |
Bouncy Ball |
May-25-05 10:27 AM |
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I agree with you |
XemaSab |
May-25-05 11:46 AM |
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The whole idea is creepy to me...talk about Nazi experiments!!! |
DemocracyInaction |
May-25-05 10:37 AM |
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can you adopt them and then donate them for research? |
GloriaSmith |
May-25-05 10:47 AM |
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I don't believe that's the point |
Lights_Out |
May-25-05 10:50 AM |
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Illogical |
ultraist |
May-25-05 11:33 AM |
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also illogical |
onenote |
May-25-05 03:39 PM |
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I didn't say that some don't adopt based on race |
ultraist |
May-25-05 04:12 PM |
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THANK-YOU! |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 04:15 PM |
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Absolutely right |
Lights_Out |
May-26-05 10:04 AM |
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One caveat... |
sloppyliberal |
May-25-05 11:34 AM |
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It's a crazy situation |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 11:38 AM |
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I think people should be able to choose what happens with their |
yvr girl |
May-25-05 11:41 AM |
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You put it much more reasonably than I did. |
Inland |
May-25-05 12:06 PM |
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NOW I get it! |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 01:01 PM |
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It does clear it up, if I read it as an apology. |
Inland |
May-25-05 02:05 PM |
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Hey, why start paying attention to what I've written now? |
Modem Butterfly |
May-25-05 02:08 PM |
#104 |
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Aren't there plenty of embryos |
bloom |
May-25-05 11:47 AM |
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I find the existence of unused embryos to be offensive. |
Gormy Cuss |
May-25-05 01:25 PM |
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Excellent points! |
ultraist |
May-25-05 04:19 PM |
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It's all about pro-birth.. Not pro-life! |
demo dutch |
May-25-05 02:24 PM |
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Exactly! It's the pro lifer hypocrisy at work once again |
ultraist |
May-25-05 04:31 PM |
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Why doesn't anyone mention the cost involved for in-vitro! |
demo dutch |
May-25-05 02:33 PM |
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Average cost of IVF is 10k-12k |
ultraist |
May-25-05 05:03 PM |
#119 |
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