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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #64
69. No it isn't
People (both fertile and non-fertile) are being encouraged to acquire eight-celled frozen embryo-cicles while actual, living breathing children go without permanent homes. You have to be a pretty cold-hearted person to actually equate the two.
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  -I find the "adoption" of embryos to be offensive Modem Butterfly  May-25-05 07:38 AM   #0 
  - Oh I don't know. I've always wanted to adopt some goo in a dish  bluestateguy   May-25-05 07:40 AM   #1 
  - LOL..  youthere   May-25-05 09:13 AM   #29 
  - I DO like the no-backtalk aspect of it all.  elehhhhna   May-25-05 11:45 AM   #75 
  - Yes, but most of those children...clash with the curtains...  GOPisEvil   May-25-05 07:40 AM   #2 
  - You're absolutely right  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 07:42 AM   #4 
     - And "snowflake babies"? Snow is white!  GOPisEvil   May-25-05 07:43 AM   #6 
     - There's also the yellow snow  XemaSab   May-25-05 11:22 AM   #60 
     - Oh, to work in one of these labs and get some of the ID #s crossed up  tk2kewl   May-25-05 03:09 PM   #108 
     - There's not even "little" wait here in Texas.  Bouncy Ball   May-25-05 10:29 AM   #45 
        - Aww  FreedomAngel82   May-25-05 11:50 AM   #80 
  - AMEN  FLDem5   May-25-05 07:41 AM   #3 
  - As Long As They're Not Brown Babies  KharmaTrain   May-25-05 07:43 AM   #5 
  - every republican embryo is prescious  mopaul   May-25-05 07:47 AM   #7 
  - The Verbal Contortions Are Olympic Scale This Morning  KharmaTrain   May-25-05 07:50 AM   #14 
  - They've now convinced me that science is indeed evil  Generic Other   May-25-05 08:55 AM   #28 
  - Perfect. "Can you describe, in detail, the process of creating life?"  blondeatlast   May-25-05 09:21 AM   #31 
     - Sure, but ...  Deep13   May-25-05 10:04 AM   #39 
  - and every sperm is sacred ...  Deep13   May-25-05 07:58 AM   #20 
     - every sperm is great  Gruenemann   May-25-05 11:40 AM   #72 
  - What would the neighbors think?  M155Y_A1CH   May-25-05 07:49 AM   #12 
  - I like my embryos medium to well done.  valis   May-25-05 07:47 AM   #8 
  - You're a sick little monkey, aren't you?  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 07:50 AM   #15 
     - OK :)  valis   May-25-05 09:24 AM   #34 
  - If one of these embryos are placed in a woman's womb  Katidid   May-25-05 07:47 AM   #9 
  - OH NO!  in_cog_ni_to   May-25-05 07:49 AM   #13 
  - following that argument  FLDem5   May-25-05 09:16 AM   #30 
     - My best friend had three embryos transferred last fall.  Bouncy Ball   May-25-05 10:30 AM   #46 
     - Oh well said!  flygal   May-25-05 01:42 PM   #102 
  - AMEN!  wicket   May-25-05 07:48 AM   #10 
  - Lying lifeless, single-celled, and gool-like  blondeatlast   May-25-05 07:49 AM   #11 
  - Do you get a tax break? nt.  jbond56   May-25-05 07:50 AM   #16 
  - As offensive was the ** photo op yesterday with purportedly born  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-25-05 07:51 AM   #17 
  - Republican tactics: Play on their emotions rather than logic  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 07:52 AM   #18 
  - I can't agree with you. Democrats do feel, but we can also cut through  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-25-05 08:26 AM   #24 
     - I'll give you that  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:38 AM   #71 
        - But my question is  FreedomAngel82   May-25-05 11:58 AM   #82 
        - That's very true with some Republicans. Honestly I know several  OmmmSweetOmmm   May-25-05 01:38 PM   #101 
  - The irony is palpable  XemaSab   May-25-05 11:31 AM   #65 
  - No argument here.  Deep13   May-25-05 07:57 AM   #19 
  - I find offensive your gratuitous opinions on how I should make my family  Inland   May-25-05 08:13 AM   #21 
  - How about acquire?  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 08:22 AM   #22 
  - How about giving people who want children a break  Inland   May-25-05 08:30 AM   #26 
     - As an adopted American, I refuse to be silenced  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 08:51 AM   #27 
     - Unfortunately, no.  Inland   May-25-05 10:19 AM   #40 
        - This post isn't addressed to me, but I'll respond anyway  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 10:31 AM   #47 
           - And yet  Inland   May-25-05 10:42 AM   #54 
              - Sure  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:24 AM   #61 
     - Someone who wants a child  FLDem5   May-25-05 09:22 AM   #32 
        - But what if they clash with the curtains?  blondeatlast   May-25-05 09:32 AM   #37 
        - but why????  FLDem5   May-25-05 09:39 AM   #38 
        - doesn't sound pro-choice to me.  Inland   May-25-05 10:22 AM   #41 
        - oh no  FLDem5   May-25-05 10:23 AM   #42 
           - So they can't have their own, naturally?  Inland   May-25-05 10:27 AM   #44 
              - Adopted children are unnatural?  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 10:32 AM   #48 
              - Ah, now you want to play the word game.  Inland   May-25-05 10:37 AM   #52 
                 - IVF embryos aren't children  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:24 AM   #62 
                    - That's just playing games with words  Inland   May-25-05 11:44 AM   #74 
                       - If you really think 8 cells equals a human being...  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:48 AM   #78 
                          - No, I am saying I'm not going to pillory someone for  Inland   May-25-05 12:00 PM   #83 
                             - It's not that and you know it.  Ripley   May-25-05 12:05 PM   #86 
                             - Funny, it seemed like the people "adopting" were being accused of  Inland   May-25-05 12:18 PM   #90 
                                - Most Americans do NOT acquire frozen embryos!  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 12:27 PM   #92 
                                   - Yes, your right to judge.  Inland   May-25-05 12:34 PM   #95 
                                      - I'm not sure why you're deliberately misstating the issue  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 12:58 PM   #96 
                             - Gee, you haven't been around much, have you?  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 12:10 PM   #88 
                                - Thanks for the education.  Inland   May-25-05 12:30 PM   #94 
                                   - Effort wasted, I'm afraid  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 01:00 PM   #97 
                                   - "They" are the radical religious rightwingnuts  ultraist   May-25-05 03:59 PM   #113 
              - I believe we are discussing other peoples embryos  FLDem5   May-25-05 11:21 AM   #59 
                 - The principle is the same.  Inland   May-25-05 11:29 AM   #64 
                    - When you get pregnant - it is a non-choice about what kind of baby  FLDem5   May-25-05 11:33 AM   #67 
                    - No, its a MADE choice about what kind of baby you will have.  Inland   May-25-05 11:49 AM   #79 
                       - you keep bringing this argument into the realm of the absurd  FLDem5   May-25-05 11:58 AM   #81 
                          - Your position is absurd; I'm taking it to its logical conclusions.  Inland   May-25-05 12:03 PM   #85 
                             - Children waiting for adoption need parents  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 12:15 PM   #89 
                                - You looking at me?  Inland   May-25-05 12:23 PM   #91 
                                   - Not really  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 01:06 PM   #99 
                                      - "some folks actually choose" - exactly what Inland's been saying  onenote   May-25-05 03:06 PM   #107 
                                         - Actually, that was sort of my point, not Inland's  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 03:24 PM   #109 
                                            - I hear what you're saying  onenote   May-25-05 03:43 PM   #111 
                                            - It's certainly a more urgent choice  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 03:47 PM   #112 
                    - No it isn't  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:35 AM   #69 
        - Unfortunetaly money has precedence  Divameow77   May-25-05 12:28 PM   #93 
  - How about "store bought" precursors?  displacedtexan   May-25-05 10:41 AM   #53 
     - That's actually the way all adoption works.  Inland   May-25-05 10:46 AM   #56 
        - What is the priority?  ultraist   May-25-05 04:23 PM   #117 
  - Thank you!  Fifth of Five   May-25-05 08:24 AM   #23 
  - Don't tell me you think it is any coincidence  underpants   May-25-05 08:28 AM   #25 
  - Some idiot asshole this morning on NPR described the embryos as  spanone   May-25-05 09:23 AM   #33 
  - Good gracious to hell, where do they get this shit?  blondeatlast   May-25-05 09:30 AM   #36 
  - bwahahahahah "sir may i have another bowl of porridge"  bleedingheart   May-25-05 10:34 AM   #49 
  - They are eight-celled balls.  Bouncy Ball   May-25-05 10:35 AM   #50 
  - It's because the soul is assigned at the moment of conception...  valis   May-25-05 10:43 AM   #55 
     - not necessarily: for example, one could say that the souls are renting  MisterP   May-25-05 11:25 AM   #63 
        - Good point. The soul could leave the fetus without any damage or pain  valis   May-25-05 12:00 PM   #84 
  - just goes to so how ignorant they are  WLKjr   May-25-05 09:26 AM   #35 
  - I don't disagree.  Bouncy Ball   May-25-05 10:27 AM   #43 
  - I agree with you  XemaSab   May-25-05 11:46 AM   #76 
  - The whole idea is creepy to me...talk about Nazi experiments!!!  DemocracyInaction   May-25-05 10:37 AM   #51 
  - can you adopt them and then donate them for research?  GloriaSmith   May-25-05 10:47 AM   #57 
  - I don't believe that's the point  Lights_Out   May-25-05 10:50 AM   #58 
  - Illogical  ultraist   May-25-05 11:33 AM   #66 
     - also illogical  onenote   May-25-05 03:39 PM   #110 
        - I didn't say that some don't adopt based on race  ultraist   May-25-05 04:12 PM   #114 
           - THANK-YOU!  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 04:15 PM   #115 
           - Absolutely right  Lights_Out   May-26-05 10:04 AM   #120 
  - One caveat...  sloppyliberal   May-25-05 11:34 AM   #68 
  - It's a crazy situation  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 11:38 AM   #70 
  - I think people should be able to choose what happens with their  yvr girl   May-25-05 11:41 AM   #73 
  - You put it much more reasonably than I did.  Inland   May-25-05 12:06 PM   #87 
     - NOW I get it!  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 01:01 PM   #98 
        - It does clear it up, if I read it as an apology.  Inland   May-25-05 02:05 PM   #103 
           - Hey, why start paying attention to what I've written now?  Modem Butterfly   May-25-05 02:08 PM   #104 
  - Aren't there plenty of embryos  bloom   May-25-05 11:47 AM   #77 
  - I find the existence of unused embryos to be offensive.  Gormy Cuss   May-25-05 01:25 PM   #100 
  - Excellent points!  ultraist   May-25-05 04:19 PM   #116 
  - It's all about pro-birth.. Not pro-life!  demo dutch   May-25-05 02:24 PM   #105 
  - Exactly! It's the pro lifer hypocrisy at work once again  ultraist   May-25-05 04:31 PM   #118 
  - Why doesn't anyone mention the cost involved for in-vitro!  demo dutch   May-25-05 02:33 PM   #106 
     - Average cost of IVF is 10k-12k  ultraist   May-25-05 05:03 PM   #119 
 

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