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Response to Reply #145
161. here's the corrected post.. :-)
The situation of life for the soldiers involved in this conflict is wrong all the way around right now. On the installations here in the states, the preparation and the support is not what it should be for young men and women going to war. Remember... these are kids, many just out of High School. One of Kevin's greatest concerns was the lack of real preparation for what they face in a combat zone. HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS... should be spending their summer with their first real job, or preparing to go to college in the fall, having summer relationships, taking their first trip on their own, whole days at the beach burned to a crisp, hangovers from a few extra illicit beers.... you know.. "kid stuff."

HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS are dying. We'll reserve another post for the Iraqi's.. they deserve it, and we in no way belittle what they are going through. BUT.. our goal is to stop the madness. To do that, we have to face what all of this is doing to OUR country, and OUR citizens. Until we face what is being done to OUR OWN, the madness won't stop.. because not enough of our own have enough respect for people of other countries to make it stop.

When Kevin was in Iraq, he slept every night on a cement floor with a sleeping bag. They were in a bombed out customs building that they took over as their base camp. They were given two liters of water A DAY, and it was 123 degrees during the day, EVERY day. They basically ate MRE's.. pre-fab food, that looked more like paper than anything edible. They bathed in the Tigris River, washed their clothes there (if you could call it that - I washed sand out of his DCU's for three washings before they began to look salvageable when he returned. His feet took 3 months to heal. There were cuts and blisters and toenails missing... it was ridiculous.

I sent them a package every week.. average 35 pounds. They requested koolaid to make the water taste like anything except water.. canned fruit, vegetables... soups.. canned hams, canned turkey... and lots of sox.

Now we here that Taco Bell has just signed a contract to build the first of their franchises in Iraq. There are so many fastfood chains over there now... Kevin's unit, when preparing to deploy, was told that there would be A/C and separate barracks rooms, that they would have computer access to take college courses in their spare time.. there would be mini-malls and recreation facilities. We haven't heard about any of those from the soldiers we know. We have heard that in the first two months of Kevin's unit deploying, they lost 17 soldiers, and many more wounded. Doubt there was too much recreating going on.

Back on post.. again.. how do you prepare for war? Kevin will tell you about his experiences with young soldiers.

HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS ARE DYING. Don't forget that, please. Please pass that along.. and hope that it makes the impression intended. These kids are manning machine guns, and firing M-16's. These kids are being shot at.. FOR WHAT?

These kids have young 18 yr. old wives waiting for them.. here.. in our living room. They cry - they are so afraid. They know every idiosyncrasy of their husband - they worry if anyone in their husband's unit knows of them. They worry if their husband is taking his medicine, if he is soaking his feet - if he still loves them when they don't hear from him for two weeks. They wonder if their mail is getting through because they get a phone call, and just when they say HI they are cut off. We tell them it's a satellite phone, it happens all the time. They hesitate to believe us.. they worry. Maybe their husband was just struck by a stray bullet.. or maybe he hung up because he didn't love them anymore.

It goes on.. it's just beginning.. it's crazy.. and it has to end.

THANK YOU for the forum. There are so many people who need what you offer. Don't give up, please. Kevin told soldiers, his friends, "I've got your back." He meant it. I have his.. but we know that we are definitely NOT ALONE. We can feel you all around us.. and we will tell the soldiers we know, their family members and the Iraqis we talk with.. there are many good Americans.. stand up and watch them work.

THIS IS AWESOME!! Thank you.
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  - location  monicab   May-21-05 03:34 PM   #34 
     - That does shed light... Did you go to Iraq supporting the action?  Tinoire   May-21-05 03:49 PM   #41 
        - Second this question, and have one to add.  mzmolly   May-21-05 08:21 PM   #121 
           - bush support  monicab   May-22-05 06:20 PM   #184 
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                 - don't believe everything you read...  monicab   May-24-05 03:05 PM   #227 
                    - Ahhhhhhhhhhh,  mzmolly   May-24-05 03:46 PM   #229 
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           - You tried Eloriel. Goodness knows you, we, tried!  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:57 PM   #139 
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  - specific organizations  monicab   May-21-05 03:07 PM   #19 
     - RE: GI Rights Hotline  Swamp Rat   May-21-05 03:19 PM   #25 
        - Links  monicab   May-21-05 03:40 PM   #36 
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  - Thank you  monicab   May-21-05 03:02 PM   #15 
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  - :-)  monicab   May-21-05 03:16 PM   #22 
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     - THANK YOU  monicab   May-21-05 05:13 PM   #76 
     - Monica, I would be honored to do that for you! SwampRat  Tinoire   May-21-05 05:23 PM   #80 
     - THANKS AGAIN  monicab   May-21-05 05:27 PM   #83 
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  - *self-delete* dupe  AmBlue   May-21-05 03:51 PM   #44 
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  - From a Veteran  alfredo   May-21-05 04:15 PM   #54 
  - Thank you Tinoire  merh   May-21-05 04:16 PM   #55 
  - thank you  monicab   May-21-05 04:22 PM   #58 
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  - Thank you Kevin and Monica  JohnyCanuck   May-21-05 04:46 PM   #67 
  - Welcome Kevin and Monica!  mutley_r_us   May-21-05 04:46 PM   #68 
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  - contractors..  monicab   May-21-05 05:16 PM   #77 
  - Thanks, Monica. I'll look forward to Kevin's response. n/t  intheflow   May-21-05 06:45 PM   #101 
  - contractors  monicab   May-22-05 05:12 PM   #178 
  - A heartfelt Welcome to Kevin and Monica...  leftchick   May-21-05 05:01 PM   #71 
  - an Official Welcome! how nice!  G_j   May-21-05 05:07 PM   #73 
  - Thank you for spending some time with us...  DemBeans   May-21-05 05:09 PM   #74 
  - draft.. recruiting VERY IMPORTANT  monicab   May-21-05 05:20 PM   #78 
     - Ditto- can't stress that enough!  Tinoire   May-21-05 05:52 PM   #90 
     - Oh, I am so glad to have this information for my son!!!  Just Me   May-21-05 06:22 PM   #97 
  - Welcome Monica and Kevin!  ultraist   May-21-05 05:25 PM   #81 
  - WOW!!! Monica and Kevin in da house!!!  Karenina   May-21-05 05:42 PM   #87 
  - Thank you as always to Tinoire and a heartfelt welcome to Kevin and Monica  shance   May-21-05 05:49 PM   #89 
  - Welcome, and a question  alcibiades_mystery   May-21-05 05:56 PM   #91 
  - Welcome Kevin and Monica  Paula Sims   May-21-05 06:03 PM   #92 
  - No questions, just support  MrScorpio   May-21-05 06:05 PM   #93 
  - Welcome, thanks, and a question  clem_c_rock   May-21-05 06:10 PM   #94 
  - tactics  monicab   May-21-05 06:35 PM   #99 
     - I heard one of the things Giuliana Sgrena was working on reporting  clem_c_rock   May-21-05 07:37 PM   #115 
  - Welcome Kevin and Monica.  understandinglife   May-21-05 06:13 PM   #95 
  - The deserters: Awol crisis hits the US forces (heart-breaking)  Tinoire   May-21-05 06:55 PM   #102 
  - We can tell you stories..  monicab   May-21-05 07:09 PM   #106 
     - I, we, can't wait to hear your stories  Tinoire   May-21-05 07:33 PM   #114 
  - Welcome to DU, Kevin and Monica!  bobthedrummer   May-21-05 07:06 PM   #104 
  - American military personnel  Karenina   May-21-05 07:08 PM   #105 
  - Hello from Ireland  Chomp   May-21-05 07:09 PM   #107 
  - Iraqi citizens.. and THANK YOU for EVERYTHING  monicab   May-21-05 07:13 PM   #109 
     - People helping people,...that's,...power!!!  Just Me   May-21-05 07:52 PM   #118 
     - PLEASE share these messages with the Iraqi people.  BeHereNow   May-21-05 08:29 PM   #125 
        - But for my need to reach out to the people in Iraq, I would not be here!!!  Just Me   May-21-05 08:45 PM   #128 
        - Ditto!  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:17 PM   #130 
           - Honey babe-  BeHereNow   May-21-05 09:34 PM   #133 
              - Laughing  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:47 PM   #136 
  - Welcome and bless you both for your courage!!  lilymercury   May-21-05 07:11 PM   #108 
  - welcome! ... your depth, integrity, heart just leap off the page  faithnotgreed   May-21-05 07:18 PM   #112 
  - A big DU welcome to Kevin and Monica  HeeBGBz   May-21-05 07:27 PM   #113 
  - WELCOME!!!!!  mzmolly   May-21-05 07:39 PM   #116 
  - Good golly  monicab   May-22-05 05:04 PM   #177 
     - Indeed I have.  mzmolly   May-22-05 11:42 PM   #194 
  - DUers, Kevin, Monica- check out WhatReallyHappened.com !  Tinoire   May-21-05 07:40 PM   #117 
  - Protests across U.S. support war resisters "Pablo and Kevin put the war  Tinoire   May-21-05 07:57 PM   #119 
  - TRUE Patriots! WELCOME KEVIN AND MONICA!!!  BeHereNow   May-21-05 08:14 PM   #120 
  - Your nephew and his wife are both in my prayers  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:27 PM   #131 
     - Thank you Tinoire-  BeHereNow   May-21-05 09:37 PM   #134 
  - welcome Kevin and Monica  Vincardog   May-21-05 08:27 PM   #124 
  - we can do this together  monicab   May-22-05 05:01 PM   #176 
  - Notice how not ONE lurking freeper troll has had the nerve  BeHereNow   May-21-05 08:36 PM   #126 
  - Welcome, Kevin and Monica!  Spazito   May-21-05 08:42 PM   #127 
  - arriving late and leaving early...  mike_c   May-21-05 09:01 PM   #129 
  - Again Welcome, Kevin and Monica!  Berserker   May-21-05 09:28 PM   #132 
     - And you won't see them in this thread  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:38 PM   #135 
        - What a fantastic  Catrina   May-21-05 10:48 PM   #143 
           - Hi Catrina  monicab   May-21-05 11:03 PM   #144 
           - Hi Catrina  Tinoire   May-22-05 12:03 AM   #151 
  - We've read many reports about the sorry lack of proper equipment  Tinoire   May-21-05 09:56 PM   #138 
  - this will require many posts, but here's a start...  monicab   May-21-05 10:23 PM   #141 
  - Thanks :) but I think there's a typo in your post  Tinoire   May-21-05 11:15 PM   #145 
     - typo  monicab   May-22-05 07:12 AM   #160 
     - here's the corrected post.. :-)  monicab   May-22-05 07:15 AM   #161 
  - equipment and living quarters  monicab   May-22-05 05:46 PM   #180 
     - I really hope the living conditions have improved!  Tinoire   May-22-05 07:13 PM   #187 
  - Kevin and Monica,  Auntie Bush   May-21-05 10:36 PM   #142 
  - Welcome Kevin and Monica and Caterina  DemonFighterLives   May-21-05 11:46 PM   #147 
  - welcome  monicab   May-22-05 05:52 PM   #181 
     - I feel terrible for them all  DemonFighterLives   May-22-05 06:19 PM   #183 
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  - A quote that's on my fridge....  halobeam   May-22-05 12:31 AM   #155 
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  - Welcome to DU!  Crunchy Frog   May-22-05 01:43 AM   #158 
  - Kick  Zhade   May-22-05 02:55 AM   #159 
  - soldier stories  monicab   May-22-05 07:45 AM   #162 
  - "Before you can destroy others, you have to destroy yourself"  Tinoire   May-22-05 09:37 AM   #165 
  - Vietnam era veteran welcomes you to Democratic Underground  B Calm   May-22-05 07:59 AM   #163 
  - thanks  monicab   May-22-05 01:35 PM   #170 
  - Question from Underground Panther in the Sky  Tinoire   May-22-05 10:59 AM   #167 
  - Good questions  monicab   May-22-05 05:59 PM   #182 
  - questions from panther  monicab   May-23-05 07:37 AM   #200 
  - Welcome to DU!  lateo   May-22-05 12:57 PM   #168 
  - :-)  monicab   May-22-05 01:33 PM   #169 
     - You are welcome.  lateo   May-22-05 09:17 PM   #190 
  - RECRUITING INFORMATION  monicab   May-22-05 01:58 PM   #171 
  - Amazing- "shop in the largest shopping mall in the world"  Tinoire   May-22-05 02:04 PM   #172 
     - yes, ma'am...  monicab   May-22-05 02:21 PM   #173 
        - Thanks :) Same here! n/t  Tinoire   May-22-05 04:29 PM   #174 
  - This is an amazing thread... thank you so much.  salin   May-22-05 04:39 PM   #175 
  - 5 Questions  chlamor   May-22-05 05:25 PM   #179 
  - Welcome to DU, Kevin and Monica!  Sparkly   May-22-05 06:22 PM   #185 
  - Good night all  monicab   May-22-05 06:24 PM   #186 
  - Good-night Kevin and Monica! Hope to see you soon before they lock this  Tinoire   May-22-05 07:33 PM   #188 
     - we're not going anywhere.. back in the morning.  monicab   May-22-05 08:19 PM   #189 
        - Good... We'll see you in the morning then  Tinoire   May-22-05 11:50 PM   #197 
  - THIS IS WHAT YOU DO FOR US... THANK YOU  monicab   May-22-05 09:48 PM   #191 
  - This is the letter referred to in the last post...  monicab   May-22-05 09:57 PM   #192 
     - As a summary...  monicab   May-22-05 10:12 PM   #193 
     - Thanks for explainining the process  Tinoire   May-22-05 11:48 PM   #196 
     - Unbelievable. I wish the Mainstream media would tell your stories.  mzmolly   May-22-05 11:51 PM   #198 
     - "they were going to shackle his legs and force him on the plane to Irag"?!  Tinoire   May-22-05 11:45 PM   #195 
  - Kick  LibertyorDeath   May-23-05 01:24 AM   #199 
  - Another Soldier  monicab   May-23-05 08:20 AM   #201 
  - Mother's letter  monicab   May-23-05 08:21 AM   #202 
     - WHAT A CROCK!!!!  Just Me   May-23-05 08:37 AM   #203 
        - As I used to say, the military is like Vegas...  IrateCitizen   May-23-05 08:46 AM   #208 
  - Welcome, and thank you for doing your duty  TOJ   May-23-05 08:41 AM   #204 
  - Kevin and Monica, greetings from another military resister!  IrateCitizen   May-23-05 08:42 AM   #205 
  - Thank you  monicab   May-23-05 08:54 AM   #209 
  - From an Infantryman's Journal  monicab   May-23-05 08:42 AM   #206 
  - A 23 yr. old soldier -  monicab   May-23-05 08:43 AM   #207 
  - Kick for a real American Patriot!  Andy_Stephenson   May-23-05 09:51 AM   #212 
  - KICK!  IrateCitizen   May-23-05 10:39 AM   #213 
  - Our reasons....  monicab   May-23-05 11:24 AM   #214 
  - Go Kevin, Go !  ozmike   May-23-05 11:33 AM   #215 
  - Hot.Button.Issue.  Karenina   May-23-05 12:12 PM   #216 
  - Welcome, Sgt. and Mrs. Benderman!  BurtWorm   May-23-05 12:18 PM   #217 
  - This one is SPECIAL - from Iraq  monicab   May-23-05 12:19 PM   #218 
  - After all... we're all just people who want to live our lives in peace  monicab   May-23-05 12:21 PM   #220 
  - I respectfully request that a new thread be started.  bobthedrummer   May-23-05 12:20 PM   #219 
  - :-)  monicab   May-23-05 12:34 PM   #221 
     - Done. I started a new thread for people to use.  Tinoire   May-23-05 01:12 PM   #222 
        - dupe  Tinoire   May-23-05 01:13 PM   #223 
  - PT 2 - Please transition to NEW THREAD  Tinoire   May-23-05 01:15 PM   #224 
  - Corrected link to thread 2  Tinoire   May-23-05 04:08 PM   #226 
  - Welcome!  ih8thegop   May-24-05 03:40 PM   #228 
  - :-)  monicab   May-24-05 10:36 PM   #230 
     - Agreed (nt)  ih8thegop   May-25-05 12:14 PM   #231 
  - This is so outstanding. I think it's the best DU post I have ever seen.  Nothing Without Hope   May-26-05 09:39 PM   #232 
     - Thank you  Tinoire   May-27-05 06:44 PM   #233 
 

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