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Fri Sep-19-03 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 40. I did read post 35 - and if I pay less in total - do I care that the |
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eventual marginal rate is 35%? If so why. I have more money - the rich have less - after taxes. The bullshit marginal rate has not made me unhappy - again I have more money after taxes - so I am happy!!!!!  |
| -flat tax? this is disturbing |
benfro25 |
Sep-19-03 03:14 PM |
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Didn't turdinthepunchbowl get tombstoned? |
RobertSeattle |
Sep-19-03 03:20 PM |
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Yes |
goobergunch |
Sep-19-03 03:22 PM |
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Yes, it was tombstoned |
sangh0 |
Sep-19-03 03:23 PM |
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thats not the point |
benfro25 |
Sep-19-03 03:27 PM |
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"no one could articulately argue against him" - now that hurts! |
papau |
Sep-19-03 03:44 PM |
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? |
benfro25 |
Sep-19-03 03:53 PM |
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You are not mistaken?- We capture "flat tax" and make it progressive! :-) |
papau |
Sep-19-03 04:44 PM |
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Your tax burden is a function of your value of a dollar and your value of |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:48 PM |
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?- With a high per person deductible, marginal rate for the poor is zero! |
papau |
Sep-19-03 05:00 PM |
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Because of posts 35 and 44 |
AP |
Sep-19-03 08:10 PM |
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UGGH! Are you serious? |
Fescue4u |
Sep-21-03 02:09 PM |
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If the cap comes off, it means people under the cap now will pay less. |
AP |
Sep-21-03 03:10 PM |
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Incidentally, two logical inconsistencies of pro-flat tax/exemption... |
AP |
Sep-21-03 03:18 PM |
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If that were true I would support it. |
Fescue4u |
Sep-21-03 04:42 PM |
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Tax system is worce then Taxes |
sphbecker |
Sep-19-03 03:27 PM |
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The tax system is only as complex as your life |
jmowreader |
Sep-19-03 09:46 PM |
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Anyone who doesn't have 6 hours to save a couple thousand bucks |
AP |
Sep-19-03 11:18 PM |
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Ah er |
HFishbine |
Sep-19-03 03:28 PM |
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a national sales tax would be regressive! |
benfro25 |
Sep-19-03 03:30 PM |
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That's because many liberals |
sangh0 |
Sep-19-03 03:33 PM |
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Depends |
HFishbine |
Sep-19-03 03:50 PM |
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The lower the income, the higher the propensity to consume... |
jab105 |
Sep-20-03 01:48 AM |
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No, it doesn't add up. |
steviet_2003 |
Sep-20-03 06:10 PM |
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Furthermore, if you're financing thos purchases, you pay interests on tax |
AP |
Sep-21-03 09:46 AM |
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Educate yourself |
cheryl_d |
Sep-19-03 03:40 PM |
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People who go into debt every year (ie, poor and middle class) |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:37 PM |
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Regressive Taxation 101 |
rucky |
Sep-19-03 03:34 PM |
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Bad Example |
Nederland |
Sep-19-03 04:06 PM |
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It's all proportional... |
rucky |
Sep-19-03 04:22 PM |
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But a person who makes $30,000.01 would pay the same rate |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:39 PM |
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NO |
ThomWV |
Sep-19-03 04:46 PM |
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You just said nothing. |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:54 PM |
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not with a large deductible per person - that makes it "progressive" |
papau |
Sep-19-03 04:54 PM |
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No matter how much you give as a deduction, the person just above that |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:59 PM |
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I disagree - marginal rates do not motivate - and total tax paid by |
papau |
Sep-19-03 08:35 PM |
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That's an example of how the system doesn't work. |
AP |
Sep-19-03 08:45 PM |
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We agree - as I knew we would! |
papau |
Sep-19-03 08:56 PM |
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We don't agree about flat taxes, which is what we're talking about. |
AP |
Sep-19-03 09:06 PM |
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i beg to differ |
MassDem4Life |
Sep-22-03 07:19 AM |
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Ok, tell me what the tax rate is at 1 mil, 10 mil, 50 mil and 100 mil |
AP |
Sep-22-03 07:34 AM |
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define "Fair" |
MassDem4Life |
Sep-22-03 10:59 PM |
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I've defined fair throught this thread. |
AP |
Sep-22-03 11:54 PM |
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Flat tax proposals also exclude the basics. |
Hanuman |
Sep-19-03 04:57 PM |
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ok, so you're talking about a national sales tax??? |
rucky |
Sep-19-03 06:14 PM |
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lots of anti-progressive libertarians on this board |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Sep-19-03 03:34 PM |
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A progressive income tax is about more than just money. |
quilp |
Sep-19-03 03:50 PM |
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that's good points, quilp! |
Mel |
Sep-19-03 04:12 PM |
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I don't know why people making $5.25 an hour are not turning to theft |
quilp |
Sep-19-03 04:25 PM |
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Great posts quilp, thanks! |
jab105 |
Sep-20-03 01:53 AM |
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Well, one reason might be that it wasn't posted in the main forums. |
denverbill |
Sep-19-03 04:17 PM |
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This has been my pet peeve here at DU for months. And my impression is... |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:33 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
denverbill |
Sep-19-03 04:37 PM |
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In realtion to Kerry vs Dean debate on this issue, |
AP |
Sep-19-03 04:45 PM |
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OK, I see now. |
denverbill |
Sep-19-03 04:58 PM |
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I agree - but I like the language "flat tax" - just make it progressive w/ |
papau |
Sep-19-03 04:47 PM |
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read post 35 |
AP |
Sep-19-03 05:01 PM |
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I did read post 35 - and if I pay less in total - do I care that the |
papau |
Sep-19-03 05:04 PM |
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See, by arguing this you reveal that you don't have an informed opinion |
AP |
Sep-19-03 08:20 PM |
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No See http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/00in11si.xls |
papau |
Sep-19-03 08:43 PM |
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You're saying that you don't understand what I'm saying? |
AP |
Sep-19-03 08:46 PM |
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We are typing too fast and posts are flying by each other! |
papau |
Sep-19-03 08:55 PM |
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How can you say that after reading everything here? |
AP |
Sep-19-03 09:25 PM |
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That is not true. Everytime some decides whether they're going |
AP |
Sep-19-03 09:34 PM |
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Hello?....Papau?....Anyone there?...(sounds of crickets chirping) |
AP |
Sep-19-03 11:15 PM |
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As progressive as ya want it to be. |
FauxNewsBlues |
Sep-20-03 07:48 PM |
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I already addressed this. |
AP |
Sep-21-03 09:44 AM |
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the Rhetoric sounds good, but if you plug number into |
MassDem4Life |
Sep-22-03 07:26 AM |
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You know, if people really realized what a flat tax would do...... |
denverbill |
Sep-19-03 05:01 PM |
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even adam smith is for progressive taxation |
friendofbenn |
Sep-20-03 01:41 AM |
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I've written three posts in this thread -- 35, 44 and 60 -- |
AP |
Sep-20-03 01:48 AM |
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www.fairtax.org n/t |
jackcgt |
Sep-19-03 04:58 PM |
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"fair tax is a GOP sham to push a sales tax that helps the rich - why |
papau |
Sep-19-03 05:01 PM |
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Well, I'll consider a Fair Tax when they consider a Fair Income. |
denverbill |
Sep-19-03 05:13 PM |
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Well There's a Silver Lining |
Crisco |
Sep-19-03 08:40 PM |
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If accountants are the price for a system which can |
AP |
Sep-19-03 08:48 PM |
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OH, Please tell me of the clear benefits of our current |
MassDem4Life |
Sep-19-03 11:59 PM |
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See posts 35 and 44 and this one. |
AP |
Sep-20-03 01:30 AM |
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i see it is the old punish the profiteers |
MassDem4Life |
Sep-22-03 07:40 AM |
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Oh man, are you confused. Start from the beginning and read everything. |
AP |
Sep-22-03 08:05 AM |
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A word about "corporations passing on taxes to customers" |
AP |
Sep-22-03 08:13 AM |
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and a word about, "they're all rich" |
AP |
Sep-22-03 08:18 AM |
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I could get behind a combination system.... |
DoNotRefill |
Sep-20-03 02:01 AM |
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There aren't only three bands of wealth in America... |
AP |
Sep-20-03 02:09 AM |
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kick, 'cause it's important |
AP |
Sep-20-03 08:41 AM |
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I see nothing wrong with the 30s-60s progressive taxes... |
Touchdown |
Sep-20-03 01:26 PM |
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A few notes... |
AP |
Sep-20-03 05:46 PM |
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Good points. |
Touchdown |
Sep-21-03 01:45 PM |
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There is a difference between different types of income... |
AP |
Sep-21-03 03:28 PM |
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What I was thinking... |
DoNotRefill |
Sep-20-03 07:32 PM |
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It's not sufficiently precise. Just because the item is a luxury item |
AP |
Sep-21-03 09:29 AM |
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cf. |
TacticalPeak |
Sep-20-03 06:04 PM |
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My idea, reposted. |
QuestioningStudent |
Sep-21-03 03:55 PM |
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National sales tax is NOT the answer. |
AP |
Sep-21-03 05:53 PM |
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I'll kick this up for the last time, perhaps, to give... |
AP |
Sep-22-03 06:32 PM |
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