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72. The Site's for Real...the Story of His Death? Greatly Exaggerated.
Edited on Tue May-17-05 08:59 AM by mcscajun
And he's NO Antiwar activist. He's a white supremacist, attention-seeking troll. He's got more hate-spewing websites than a Hydra has heads (they come and go, apparently), and he no doubt made up the story of his death after Googling himself (a hobby that probably takes up a great deal of his time) and found this:


NEWSWATCH 50 || WWTI NEWS
... Local emergency crews tried to revive him, but he died from his injuries after being taken ... Michael Crook is the author of the anti-soldier website ...
http://www.newswatch50.com/news/local/story.aspx?conten...

Of course, if you click on the link, you'll find the results are from two different stories, one a totally unrelated death, and the other on a local protest against him and his "Forsake the Troops" website.

I spent 15-20 minutes crawling around the Syracuse news outlets, and there was absolutely nothing about his death or any attack on him. I also did a little free association web crawling and found any number of people who Want him dead, or would be willing to kill him; also found his aliases, home address in Syracuse, NY, and his phone number. He may have decided the time to lay low was at hand, and faking his own death a convenient ruse for now.
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  -Antiwar webmaster asssasinated therapist  May-17-05 06:58 AM   #0 
  - HOLY SHIT  MADem   May-17-05 07:00 AM   #1 
  - Well of course it is. Freeper types are usually violent thugs.  tjdee   May-17-05 07:02 AM   #5 
  - I've always said - "In real life - they would just kill you dead..."  hexola   May-17-05 08:05 AM   #50 
  - Talk about  FreedomAngel82   May-17-05 12:21 PM   #107 
  - Sounds Like Crook Was Against The Socialism Implicit In Military Life  cryingshame   May-17-05 07:17 AM   #27 
  - Okay, so which side killed him?  jmowreader   May-17-05 12:15 PM   #102 
  - Wouldn't be accurate to call that rhetoric 'anti-war'  cestpaspossible   May-17-05 06:42 PM   #123 
  - 63 posts for original poster.. just saying.. relax and get facts!  Griffy   May-17-05 08:14 PM   #127 
  - That's how the RW operates  Gman   May-17-05 07:01 AM   #2 
  - and apparently how they KILL  Protagoras   May-17-05 10:40 AM   #92 
     - And how easily some people will believe the worst...  Freddie Stubbs   May-18-05 08:15 AM   #144 
  - And so it begins...  Tyler Durden   May-17-05 07:02 AM   #3 
  - We shouldn't be intimidated  therapist   May-17-05 07:04 AM   #9 
  - Initimidated? YES. Cowed? NO.  Tyler Durden   May-17-05 07:10 AM   # 
  - Was Pope Benedict a "Hitler Youth"?  Tigress DEM   May-17-05 11:16 PM   #133 
  - That's scary  demnan   May-17-05 07:02 AM   #4 
  - Is this the start of Krystalnacht?  unhappycamper   May-17-05 07:03 AM   #6 
  - Ya gotta wonder.... n/t  MADem   May-17-05 07:05 AM   #10 
  - This sounds like BOGUS CRAP!--Edited!  patdem   May-17-05 07:04 AM   #7 
  - Agreed  ET Awful   May-17-05 07:07 AM   #13 
  - I posted a link to the cache of the page above  MADem   May-17-05 07:08 AM   #16 
  - It's for real.  tjdee   May-17-05 07:11 AM   #21 
  - it still has hoax potential  foo_bar   May-17-05 07:16 AM   #26 
  - Info on Crook...  leftchick   May-17-05 07:11 AM   #22 
  - He didn't find the camera  KurtNYC   May-17-05 11:42 AM   #93 
  - I guess i'm still gullible  therapist   May-17-05 07:31 AM   #34 
  - Someone close this thread!  SeveneightyWhoa   May-18-05 12:16 AM   #139 
  - The Stormtroopers are back...  entanglement   May-17-05 07:04 AM   #8 
  - Where did this happen? (nt)  MaineDem   May-17-05 07:05 AM   #11 
  - Well, my first instinct when I saw this site months ago was that it was  ET Awful   May-17-05 07:06 AM   #12 
  - I've never heard about it before, but i checked archive.org  therapist   May-17-05 07:09 AM   #18 
  - Thats not anti-war  tinanator   May-17-05 07:21 AM   #31 
  - I googled him. Was he also a white supremacist?  katinmn   May-17-05 07:39 AM   #38 
  - Something just doesn't feel right about this.  Scooter24   May-17-05 07:07 AM   #14 
  - OK researchers--  eridani   May-17-05 07:08 AM   #15 
  - Here is a start  MADem   May-17-05 07:10 AM   #19 
  - He's a jerk, but you don't kill someone in this country for that.  tjdee   May-17-05 07:12 AM   #23 
  - Well, it's hard to believe that there's no supporting evidence.  Xithras   May-17-05 12:11 PM   #100 
  - He wasn't anti-war, he was anti-troops.  BlueEyedSon   May-17-05 07:08 AM   #17 
  - He was also EX MILITARY apparently - for all of TWO WEEKS  MADem   May-17-05 07:13 AM   #24 
  - 315...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   May-17-05 07:10 AM   #20 
  - I'm a looking around like crazy, found this  MADem   May-17-05 07:16 AM   #25 
  - Agreed  TornadoTN   May-17-05 07:52 AM   #42 
  - I live here and have  dusty64   May-17-05 08:11 AM   #52 
  - Googled "Michael Crook"  Career Prole   May-17-05 07:19 AM   #28 
  - me. too. White supremacist?  katinmn   May-17-05 07:39 AM   #39 
  - He apparently held some soldier's camera HOSTAGE for $1000.  UdoKier   May-17-05 01:02 PM   #113 
  - Anti-war? He seems to be anti-soldier. BIG difference. n/t  patricia92243   May-17-05 07:20 AM   #29 
  - Citizens against Michael Crook:  tjdee   May-17-05 07:21 AM   #30 
  - I thought he was being inflammatory to get attention  Mizmoon   May-17-05 07:22 AM   #32 
  - Found a pic of the guy  MADem   May-17-05 07:25 AM   #33 
  - Crook's blog here...  Career Prole   May-17-05 07:31 AM   #35 
  - PROOF THAT HE IS A BULLSHITTER, right there!!!  MADem   May-17-05 08:57 AM   #71 
     - Damn, you're good!  Career Prole   May-17-05 10:38 AM   #91 
     - That detail just LEAPED out at me  MADem   May-17-05 12:15 PM   #103 
        - Check it out now...  Career Prole   May-17-05 12:45 PM   #110 
           - Look again, apparently, he is UNDEAD  MADem   May-17-05 02:02 PM   #116 
     - Reverse phone number lookup  eridani   May-17-05 07:26 PM   #125 
  - Has anyone found confirmation elsewhere?  Bridget Burke   May-17-05 07:33 AM   #36 
  - So far, all I can figure out is that he is a real person  MADem   May-17-05 07:37 AM   #37 
     - Yes, but there's no hint he was killed....  Bridget Burke   May-17-05 07:52 AM   #43 
  - This isn't passing the smell test  TornadoTN   May-17-05 07:46 AM   #40 
  - I am starting to wonder myself, found this tidbit  MADem   May-17-05 07:48 AM   #41 
     - Good background there  TornadoTN   May-17-05 07:55 AM   #45 
     - I edited above post to include some stuff from military.com  MADem   May-17-05 07:58 AM   #47 
     - Good find  TornadoTN   May-17-05 08:03 AM   #49 
     - I noted above that his "family member" said they could not update the site  MADem   May-17-05 09:06 AM   #75 
     - "Crook"  therapist   May-17-05 07:55 AM   #46 
        - Not his real name, apparently--see the military.com link  MADem   May-17-05 08:07 AM   #51 
  - He Appears To Be In His Mid 20's (Grainy Webcam Photo)  arwalden   May-17-05 07:53 AM   #44 
  - also has a few more names: Mike Vogel-Delany and Mike Delany  maddezmom   May-17-05 08:02 AM   #48 
     - STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A FAKE!!!!!  MADem   May-17-05 08:21 AM   #57 
        - Found the same thing *HOAX*  TornadoTN   May-17-05 08:25 AM   #62 
        - Thank you.  therapist   May-17-05 08:42 AM   #66 
        - OK, good, it's a hoax  OldLeftieLawyer   May-17-05 09:00 AM   #74 
        - No, I think you are a wise realist  MADem   May-17-05 09:55 AM   #87 
        - No, your right  TornadoTN   May-17-05 11:55 AM   #97 
        - excellent research  CitySky   May-17-05 09:38 PM   #131 
  - "Forsake The Troops" Webmaster Beaten to Death  Roland99   May-17-05 08:20 AM   #53 
  - I get death threats all the time.  benburch   May-17-05 08:20 AM   #54 
  - Oh, dear god  OldLeftieLawyer   May-17-05 08:20 AM   #55 
  - How terrible.....  EOTE   May-17-05 08:20 AM   #56 
  - Read the whole thread, including links, this guy is a FAKE n/t  MADem   May-17-05 08:24 AM   #60 
  - I'm from Watertown NY  shadowknows69   May-17-05 08:23 AM   #58 
  - See my post upthread, it is looking like a HOAX n/t  MADem   May-17-05 08:24 AM   #61 
  - Yeah...saw that after the mods moved my thread over to here  Roland99   May-17-05 09:39 AM   #81 
  - I think this is looking like a hoax  shadowknows69   May-17-05 09:35 AM   #80 
  - Roland, that is FROM the guy's website--it is looking like he faked it  MADem   May-17-05 08:23 AM   #59 
  - I'd say wait and see....  DoNotRefill   May-17-05 10:22 AM   #90 
  - Wayback machine archive of the site's front page, Feb 05  Maddy McCall   May-17-05 08:34 AM   #63 
  - Can you say agent provocateur? I knew you could!  MadHound   May-17-05 08:35 AM   #64 
  - Disagree--I think he is a fucking LOONY TUNE  MADem   May-17-05 08:48 AM   #67 
  - Granted, he seems to be a free for all nut,  MadHound   May-17-05 09:46 AM   #83 
     - Funny, I don't look at it that way  MADem   May-17-05 10:03 AM   #88 
     - In a sense, your right  TornadoTN   May-17-05 12:04 PM   #98 
  - I can say that..  route_66   May-17-05 08:49 AM   #68 
  - We have the resources to counter this, but there are still two factors  MadHound   May-17-05 09:50 AM   #84 
  - why the "white power" crap?  foo_bar   May-17-05 08:54 AM   #70 
     - I don't think he is playing Punk'd  therapist   May-17-05 09:06 AM   #76 
     - No, if this is psyops, then we are in bigger trouble than we are now  MADem   May-17-05 09:15 AM   #79 
     - I've hung around enough freepers and other RW loons find out  MadHound   May-17-05 09:54 AM   #86 
        - What's staggering to me is that ANYONE would believe the left  Bouncy Ball   May-18-05 12:34 AM   #142 
  - News Item from one week ago. LINK  Maddy McCall   May-17-05 08:38 AM   #65 
  - If you read all the links in this thread, you will learn that he did not  MADem   May-17-05 08:51 AM   #69 
  - The Site's for Real...the Story of His Death? Greatly Exaggerated.  mcscajun   May-17-05 08:58 AM   #72 
  - LINK TO HIS BLOG, on another website:  Maddy McCall   May-17-05 09:00 AM   #73 
  - Maddy, go look at that page again, he is GAMING people  MADem   May-17-05 09:09 AM   #77 
     - I understand that.  Maddy McCall   May-17-05 09:11 AM   #78 
     - HA!  Roland99   May-17-05 09:45 AM   #82 
  - More evidence of apartied in the U.S. !!!!! Reverse Revolution will have  lonestarnot   May-17-05 09:51 AM   #85 
  - What does this have to do with apartied (sic)?  Freddie Stubbs   May-17-05 11:50 AM   #96 
     - Do you know the 10 steps to genocide?  lonestarnot   May-17-05 07:39 PM   #126 
        - Is one of those steps pretinding to be murdered?  Freddie Stubbs   May-18-05 11:49 AM   #149 
  - Interesting........he was going to start up a cop web page too.....  Historic NY   May-17-05 10:22 AM   #89 
  - Equal opportunity hatemonger, isn't he?  warrens   May-17-05 11:47 AM   #94 
  - I just Called  Tomtech   May-17-05 11:48 AM   #95 
  - I Recommend Reposting/Mirroring the Site  Pockets   May-17-05 12:06 PM   #99 
  - **UPDATE: WEBPAGE CHANGED**  TornadoTN   May-17-05 12:13 PM   #101 
  - What a prick...!  hexola   May-17-05 12:19 PM   #104 
  - And in 40 minutes, he rose from the dead!!!  MADem   May-17-05 12:20 PM   #106 
  - I still see the same thing.  Sparkly   May-17-05 12:35 PM   #109 
  - Oh God  FreedomAngel82   May-17-05 12:19 PM   #105 
  - Dude, it is fake.  Zynx   May-17-05 12:25 PM   #108 
     - Or discussed as to why it was posted in the first place  eleny   May-17-05 12:46 PM   #111 
     - I'm with you--why give the little shit any more attention? n/t  MADem   May-17-05 12:52 PM   #112 
  - contemptible, sad little man. he deserves to be ignored.  NuttyFluffers   May-17-05 01:07 PM   #114 
  - Hoax - Con I am sure the donate button would appear for the wife and baby  glitch   May-17-05 01:13 PM   #115 
  - I'll bet those guys are "pro-life"  mutley_r_us   May-17-05 02:05 PM   #117 
  - He may be still alive.  HR_Pufnstuf   May-17-05 04:55 PM   #118 
  - From his blog:  proud2Blib   May-17-05 08:16 PM   #128 
  - WE'RE ENTERING THE REALMS OF THE BROWSHIRTS  clem_c_rock   May-17-05 05:09 PM   #119 
  - Reat through the thread! The guy isn't dead!  UdoKier   May-17-05 05:13 PM   #120 
     - thanks for letting me in on it.  clem_c_rock   May-17-05 06:26 PM   #122 
  - Wake me when the anti-war people decide to defend themselves.  HypnoToad   May-17-05 05:13 PM   #121 
  - I'm antiwar and i back closings of the military bases  therapist   May-17-05 06:50 PM   #124 
  - "UPDATE: Forsake The Troops is led by Scott Vogel and Laurie Vogel??"  mzmolly   May-17-05 09:18 PM   #129 
  - More:  mzmolly   May-17-05 09:29 PM   #130 
  - He was a smuck  LittleClarkie   May-17-05 09:46 PM   #132 
  - breaking news  shadowknows69   May-17-05 11:36 PM   #134 
     - Like an SNL skit  LittleClarkie   May-17-05 11:58 PM   #135 
  - One word: TERRORISM (n/t)  Triana   May-17-05 11:59 PM   #136 
  - Does everyone get a banned message when they click here  LittleClarkie   May-18-05 12:00 AM   #137 
  - Bull shit! ... wingnut propagandist  Swamp Rat   May-18-05 12:10 AM   #138 
  - Too bad the white supremacist asshole isn't dead. eom  geek tragedy   May-18-05 12:19 AM   #140 
  - This is a big-time hoax  Don1   May-18-05 12:30 AM   #141 
  - He needs psychological help.  Bouncy Ball   May-18-05 12:38 AM   #143 
  - Foolish, foolish media.  LightningFlash   May-18-05 08:22 AM   #145 
  - What's funny is  shadowknows69   May-18-05 08:35 AM   #146 
     - Sounds like Donald Rumsfeld return from pakistan..  LightningFlash   May-18-05 08:41 AM   #148 
  - Crook admits in his blog that it was a hoax.  Heidi   May-18-05 08:41 AM   #147 
     - This guy just wants to die  shadowknows69   May-18-05 02:10 PM   #150 
 

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