| 165. ixnay on the onthmay |
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There are too many months already honoring this or that. It doesn't mean jack. No one pays attention.
For a statue or memorial someone has to cough up some dough, and it can't be conveniently "forgotten".
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| -There should be a monument honoring Black slaves. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 07:30 AM |
#0 |
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Boy, would that piss off the right-wing. |
onehandle |
May-13-05 07:36 AM |
#1 |
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Absolutely! And there should be a monument honoring all the |
0007 |
May-13-05 07:42 AM |
#2 |
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yes, yes, yes & yes n/t |
G_j |
May-13-05 07:49 AM |
#3 |
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I like it. What a great idea. nt |
bemildred |
May-13-05 07:55 AM |
#4 |
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I was going to suggest one for Native Americans as well. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 09:01 AM |
#13 |
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I agree for blacks but, |
William Bloode |
May-13-05 04:50 PM |
#78 |
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I'd suggest less a monument to the native peoples but a |
neweurope |
May-14-05 01:10 PM |
#168 |
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How about a monument... |
Deep13 |
May-13-05 07:57 AM |
#5 |
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I'm for reparations |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 08:58 AM |
#12 |
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exactly |
realisticphish |
May-13-05 10:06 AM |
#14 |
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I'm also for reparations ... |
Kweli4Real |
May-13-05 01:47 PM |
#33 |
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Reparations will never happen in our lifetime |
Horse with no Name |
May-13-05 02:17 PM |
#45 |
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The problem with reparations |
XemaSab |
May-13-05 09:44 PM |
#149 |
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Great idea. |
MuseRider |
May-13-05 08:00 AM |
#6 |
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There's one in Detroit |
noonwitch |
May-13-05 08:13 AM |
#7 |
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Wasn't the Statue of Liberty |
Village Idiot |
May-13-05 08:25 AM |
#8 |
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Nope. The story has been flying around the 'Net for years. Check Snopes |
mcscajun |
May-13-05 06:32 PM |
#116 |
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Sounds good to me, however |
MadHound |
May-13-05 08:27 AM |
#9 |
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Interesting that you would compare indentured servitude... |
tx_dem41 |
May-13-05 10:13 AM |
#17 |
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I was waiting for somebody to bite, thanks |
MadHound |
May-13-05 10:51 AM |
#18 |
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The Chinese who built the railroads weren't much better off. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 01:01 PM |
#19 |
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I'm not saying that at all friend, |
MadHound |
May-13-05 01:10 PM |
#21 |
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no one is saying that: EXCEPT YOU |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 04:57 PM |
#81 |
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Checking the first website |
Lurking_Argyle |
May-13-05 06:40 PM |
#117 |
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Zinn is almost as well-known and respected among progressives as Chomsky. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 07:42 PM |
#119 |
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Re-read your own posts |
Lurking_Argyle |
May-14-05 01:22 AM |
#157 |
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I'm not familiar with Hoffman, and was not interested in those links. |
UdoKier |
May-14-05 05:27 PM |
#179 |
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Madhound: Why are you posting links to WHITE SUPREMACISTS? |
ultraist |
May-13-05 07:54 PM |
#121 |
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Yes, Hoffman is a white supremacist, but the facts about |
QC |
May-13-05 08:21 PM |
#127 |
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I agree tx_dem41 |
ultraist |
May-13-05 02:04 PM |
#38 |
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Nice to see that you're buying into the revisionist history friend, |
MadHound |
May-13-05 02:12 PM |
#41 |
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There are not only "two major differences" |
ultraist |
May-13-05 02:41 PM |
#47 |
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I think you might benefit by a closer examination of this issue, |
MadHound |
May-13-05 04:57 PM |
#80 |
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Racism and classism |
ultraist |
May-13-05 05:20 PM |
#93 |
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Hi Ultraist. |
tx_dem41 |
May-13-05 02:13 PM |
#42 |
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yeah |
mark414 |
May-14-05 01:13 AM |
#156 |
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That is an outstanding idea. |
BullGooseLoony |
May-13-05 08:27 AM |
#10 |
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There already is. The foundation of the U.S. Capitol was built by slaves |
leveymg |
May-13-05 08:28 AM |
#11 |
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I think that they deserve better than a "plaque"... |
LiberallyInclined |
May-13-05 01:42 PM |
#31 |
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Most people would prefer cash to a new monument. Reparations. n/t |
leveymg |
May-13-05 05:25 PM |
#97 |
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direct cash reparations will never, and should never, happen... |
LiberallyInclined |
May-13-05 08:36 PM |
#128 |
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OMG! Great Fucking Idea! Nominated! |
DistressedAmerican |
May-13-05 10:09 AM |
#15 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-13-05 10:11 AM |
#16 |
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Here we go. |
Terran |
May-13-05 01:05 PM |
#20 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-13-05 01:13 PM |
#22 |
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"Why only to BLACK slaves?" |
Terran |
May-13-05 01:22 PM |
#23 |
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No, those are ways of giving positive recognition to a culture. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 01:26 PM |
#24 |
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No, sorry |
Terran |
May-13-05 01:33 PM |
#25 |
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"African-Americans, as a group, still are." |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 01:42 PM |
#30 |
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DENIAL! |
ultraist |
May-13-05 02:13 PM |
#43 |
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Revealing,yes. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 02:24 PM |
#46 |
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Wow |
Terran |
May-13-05 03:48 PM |
#67 |
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I would have no problem with reparation, but only in one of 2 ways |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 04:02 PM |
#70 |
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do you know that many black people didn't have birth certificates |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 04:55 PM |
#79 |
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How about reparations to all citizens who were denied the vote? |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 07:50 PM |
#120 |
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that's just fiine with me...reparations for everyone!!!!!! |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 03:56 PM |
#174 |
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Wow. |
UdoKier |
May-14-05 05:18 PM |
#178 |
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are reparations *generally* based on income? |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 05:31 PM |
#180 |
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That's because reparations are usually paid to living victims... |
UdoKier |
May-14-05 06:22 PM |
#182 |
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gee..if only the enslavers had your wisdom |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 06:36 PM |
#183 |
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Winding up... |
UdoKier |
May-14-05 09:17 PM |
#184 |
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nice revision of your position |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 09:58 PM |
#186 |
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Race matters |
ultraist |
May-13-05 05:04 PM |
#85 |
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Sigh |
Terran |
May-13-05 03:30 PM |
#51 |
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It should not be about black or white |
dogday |
May-13-05 01:45 PM |
#32 |
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That is such bullshit. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 02:02 PM |
#37 |
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Thousands died building the west |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 02:16 PM |
#44 |
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get a grip |
SlavesandBulldozers |
May-13-05 04:28 PM |
#74 |
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Thank you so much! |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 04:59 PM |
#82 |
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it's fucking amazing isn't it? |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:14 PM |
#90 |
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honestly i didn't expect to see this coming from DU'ers |
SlavesandBulldozers |
May-13-05 05:23 PM |
#95 |
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Oh, I did. |
ultraist |
May-13-05 05:30 PM |
#100 |
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DU is a microcosm |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:31 PM |
#101 |
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Not really... |
misanthrope |
May-14-05 12:51 PM |
#167 |
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we are a part of "average america" |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 03:44 PM |
#173 |
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It happens all the time |
Tomee450 |
May-13-05 05:51 PM |
#109 |
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UdoKier --- Take a moment to reflect what is being written to you. |
Kerrytravelers |
May-16-05 11:03 AM |
#189 |
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A quick question on that - why not american indian history month? |
The Straight Story |
May-13-05 08:47 PM |
#129 |
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Why is it that when something |
Tomee450 |
May-13-05 09:01 PM |
#132 |
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Why is it that some people |
The Straight Story |
May-13-05 09:35 PM |
#146 |
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Just tell me what group |
Tomee450 |
May-13-05 09:50 PM |
#151 |
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Other Groups? |
The Straight Story |
May-13-05 10:07 PM |
#154 |
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I agree with you completely |
FinallyStartingToWin |
May-13-05 09:19 PM |
#139 |
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National American Indian Heritage Month already exists. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-14-05 11:00 AM |
#163 |
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thank you for correcting my error! |
The Straight Story |
May-14-05 10:09 PM |
#188 |
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ixnay on the onthmay |
wtmusic |
May-14-05 11:55 AM |
#165 |
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Did I say ONLY Black slaves deserve recognition? |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 02:01 PM |
#36 |
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No, the OP did. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 03:39 PM |
#60 |
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really? |
SlavesandBulldozers |
May-13-05 05:12 PM |
#89 |
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Becuase they carried the burden of slavery AFTER slavery was over!!! |
jeffrey_X |
May-13-05 03:46 PM |
#65 |
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LOL, Yeah,and after the railroads were build, Asians were treated equally! |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 04:05 PM |
#71 |
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How many innocent asians have been convicted of crimes they didn't |
jeffrey_X |
May-13-05 04:31 PM |
#75 |
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you cannot be serious |
SlavesandBulldozers |
May-13-05 04:33 PM |
#76 |
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decided to bow out of this debate i guess |
SlavesandBulldozers |
May-13-05 05:26 PM |
#98 |
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exactly |
ultraist |
May-13-05 06:04 PM |
#113 |
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No one is saying that Asians and other minorities haven't been treated |
wildeyed |
May-13-05 05:21 PM |
#94 |
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you must have missed the reparations paid to japanese americans |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:34 PM |
#103 |
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Reparations were strictly for the forced repatriation. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 07:54 PM |
#122 |
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how, exactly, would it be "racist?" |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 03:40 PM |
#172 |
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Only Chinese men were allowed to come here |
XemaSab |
May-13-05 09:22 PM |
#140 |
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Hey, Black slavery is the most notorious. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 01:59 PM |
#35 |
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No, white slaves didn't come here of their own free will |
MadHound |
May-13-05 02:06 PM |
#39 |
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I know the history |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 03:28 PM |
#50 |
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Many whites didn't come here of their own free will |
MadHound |
May-13-05 05:04 PM |
#86 |
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i fail to understand your argument |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:15 PM |
#91 |
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Nothing |
ultraist |
May-13-05 05:48 PM |
#108 |
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No, you clearly don't know the history, |
QC |
May-13-05 05:40 PM |
#105 |
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Did they? I don't think that they all did... |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 02:11 PM |
#40 |
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You don't think? |
Terran |
May-13-05 03:38 PM |
#59 |
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I only omitted them because the topic is slavery. |
UdoKier |
May-13-05 03:57 PM |
#69 |
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"An atrocity is an atrocity" |
Terran |
May-13-05 04:09 PM |
#72 |
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the topic the OP posed was about BLACK slavery |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:28 PM |
#99 |
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If you think Native Americans |
XemaSab |
May-13-05 09:24 PM |
#142 |
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The only people who have a problem with Zinn are reactionaries |
QC |
May-13-05 05:47 PM |
#107 |
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How many whites are born in the ghetto and oppressed from day 1? |
jeffrey_X |
May-13-05 03:44 PM |
#62 |
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Have one honor the blacks who fought for the Union in the Civil War |
ArtVandaley |
May-13-05 01:35 PM |
#26 |
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Or if you want to watch freepers and racists heads explode |
MadHound |
May-13-05 01:38 PM |
#27 |
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you mean like this one? |
northzax |
May-16-05 11:18 AM |
#191 |
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There should be a monument |
Divameow77 |
May-13-05 01:41 PM |
#28 |
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Hear hear! |
MadHound |
May-13-05 01:42 PM |
#29 |
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Then just make it... |
misanthrope |
May-13-05 02:43 PM |
#48 |
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Yes slavery is a horrible institution |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 03:33 PM |
#55 |
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Sorry. Killers are much more popular than builders. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
May-13-05 01:55 PM |
#34 |
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A monument to the Native Americans (my ancestors)... |
Zhade |
May-13-05 03:14 PM |
#49 |
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Indeed, a monument and a whole lot more. n/t |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 03:30 PM |
#53 |
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Yeah, like decent living conditions for one. |
Zhade |
May-13-05 03:44 PM |
#63 |
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I've driven through Pine Ridge and the Navajo Nation. |
Jara sang |
May-14-05 09:19 PM |
#185 |
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Love the idea of the statue straddling the Potomac |
wildeyed |
May-13-05 03:30 PM |
#52 |
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It is the Capitol dome actually. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 03:31 PM |
#54 |
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I like the bridge image of bringing together, |
wildeyed |
May-13-05 05:00 PM |
#83 |
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There is no monument to slavery on the mall? Wow! I can't believe |
applegrove |
May-13-05 03:34 PM |
#56 |
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No, but there is a MLK plaque on the mall |
ultraist |
May-13-05 05:59 PM |
#111 |
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Wow! That is really harsh. Wonder why Rice doesn't get on that right |
applegrove |
May-14-05 04:58 PM |
#177 |
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This is a great idea |
KT2000 |
May-13-05 03:35 PM |
#57 |
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I'm all for the idea, but it will never happen |
DeaconBlues |
May-13-05 03:36 PM |
#58 |
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We have a Holocaust museum (?!?!) but our own atrocities go unnoticed |
DerekG |
May-13-05 03:42 PM |
#61 |
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i was going to try to tie into the Native American holocaust in this post. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 05:03 PM |
#84 |
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Now that is a great idea. |
Ellen Forradalom |
May-13-05 03:44 PM |
#64 |
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This is a great idea! |
jeffrey_X |
May-13-05 03:46 PM |
#66 |
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Excellent idea! Who's going to get this going? |
funflower |
May-13-05 03:50 PM |
#68 |
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I totally agree |
DemBeans |
May-13-05 04:13 PM |
#73 |
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I whole heartedly agree! |
William Bloode |
May-13-05 04:44 PM |
#77 |
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fuck a monument...it would never happen anyway |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:09 PM |
#87 |
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And as well the american indians |
sweetheart |
May-13-05 05:11 PM |
#88 |
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i have to agree, sweetheart |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:18 PM |
#92 |
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to those bringing up indians, chinese, and indentured servants |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:23 PM |
#96 |
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reparations for injustice as a form of justice |
sweetheart |
May-13-05 05:33 PM |
#102 |
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sweetheart, thanks for replying |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 05:44 PM |
#106 |
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Long term problems require strategic measures |
sweetheart |
May-13-05 05:56 PM |
#110 |
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I didn't bring up those subjects, but I'll take a stab at this one. |
QC |
May-13-05 09:50 PM |
#150 |
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thanks for your response, QC |
noiretblu |
May-14-05 04:10 PM |
#176 |
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Where should it be erected? |
eleny |
May-13-05 05:40 PM |
#104 |
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How about a giant statue of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. |
Swamp Rat |
May-13-05 06:00 PM |
#112 |
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There's a VERY large |
XemaSab |
May-13-05 09:32 PM |
#145 |
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Not big enough! |
Swamp Rat |
May-14-05 02:04 AM |
#159 |
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May-13-05 06:26 PM |
#114 |
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interesting belief |
noiretblu |
May-13-05 06:40 PM |
#118 |
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May-13-05 08:03 PM |
#123 |
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You implied slaves did not contribute economically |
ultraist |
May-13-05 08:09 PM |
#124 |
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May-13-05 08:18 PM |
#126 |
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No, the bolding in the middle |
Tomee450 |
May-13-05 08:53 PM |
#130 |
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May-13-05 08:56 PM |
#131 |
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You see what you want to see |
Tomee450 |
May-13-05 09:07 PM |
#134 |
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May-13-05 09:14 PM |
#136 |
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You are woefully ignorant of the facts. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 09:15 PM |
#137 |
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May-13-05 09:24 PM |
#141 |
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Do you believe the killing of Native Americans was genocide? n/t |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 09:30 PM |
#143 |
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"Farming requires no skills" |
QC |
May-13-05 10:01 PM |
#152 |
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Yes, 2 million Africans died during the Middle passage alone! |
ultraist |
May-13-05 09:31 PM |
#144 |
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Agreed, it is a hard habit to break. |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 09:38 PM |
#148 |
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Yup. |
youthere |
May-13-05 06:28 PM |
#115 |
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There is a beautiful Civil Rights Monument in Montgomery, AL |
peacebaby3 |
May-13-05 08:10 PM |
#125 |
| -
SPLC is a great organization! n/t |
Pushed To The Left |
May-13-05 09:11 PM |
#135 |
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I would like to walk the Selma to Montgomery trail |
Jara sang |
May-13-05 09:17 PM |
#138 |
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I have with President Clinton. |
peacebaby3 |
May-14-05 07:49 AM |
#160 |
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Clinton made his magnificent "son of the south" speech on the bridge |
oasis |
May-14-05 01:16 PM |
#170 |
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Awesome post! Kick! |
journalist3072 |
May-13-05 09:02 PM |
#133 |
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There is one in Savannah, GA |
alphafemale |
May-13-05 09:37 PM |
#147 |
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Hey, I' a monument artist w/20 years' experience... |
spacelady |
May-13-05 10:06 PM |
#153 |
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i think it's a great idea and would love to see your vision... |
NuttyFluffers |
May-14-05 02:03 AM |
#158 |
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John Biggers |
ultraist |
May-14-05 11:40 AM |
#164 |
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There should be...and they should be replace every confederate |
izzybeans |
May-13-05 10:19 PM |
#155 |
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Absolutely! |
laura888 |
May-14-05 08:00 AM |
#161 |
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YES! An absolutely terrific idea! |
tom_paine |
May-14-05 08:08 AM |
#162 |
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If you really want a monument, how about slaves? |
sweetheart |
May-14-05 12:11 PM |
#166 |
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There certainly should be. |
neweurope |
May-14-05 01:11 PM |
#169 |
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HERE IS ONE!!!!! |
Notorious Bohemian |
May-14-05 01:17 PM |
#171 |
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I think that is a great idea |
Book Lover |
May-14-05 04:06 PM |
#175 |
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I really like the 'Colossus' idea, great post n/t |
entanglement |
May-14-05 05:58 PM |
#181 |
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I'll tell ya something else - MLK should be on currency of some sort |
HEyHEY |
May-14-05 10:00 PM |
#187 |
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I disagree |
northzax |
May-16-05 11:11 AM |
#190 |
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A wonderful idea- unfortunately, a thread that went out of control |
Kerrytravelers |
May-16-05 11:19 AM |
#192 |
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Good Idea |
BronxBoy |
May-16-05 12:17 PM |
#193 |
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