Reply #27: Is bigotry a choice?

[undergroundpanther]

To me the whole been born gay or choice? is not the point who cares why you are gay.In fact it's NOBODY's concern. Being helplessly gay or not is not the point...

When you say born gay ,you are letting fundies frame the debate,designed to invalidate your human rights.So arguing as if you are helplessly gay in effect you are saying to people who don't even see you as a human being, take pity on me because I can't change as if this appeal to helplesness will stop these bigot bullies...There is another point Gay preople miss.. regardless...GBLT people know there will always be BI people in the community casting doubt on the I can't choose being gay arguments in the eyes of the ignorant who want to take your rights away.
This is why is gay a choice or not a choice is the wrong starting point for this argument..It's about your inaliable human rights.

You have a right to have sex with any consenting adult that you want to in a FREE country if you are a human being with inaliable human rights.
You have the right to be gay or be anything else if it is dome with consenting adults, and it is not committing a real crime . You can stay gay, be bi. or change it around any way as YOU see fit it is your right to be and to maker choices and PERSUE your Happiness....And NOBODY has the right to declatre you a second class citizen based on a religion or anything else ..Forcing a person to not make choices or not do what you do because of a certain set of people 's belief or religion is not respecting the founding principlers of our nation. It's all about human rights amd the freedom to be a human being that makes choices and sometimes not one way or another..THe real debate is.. you have a right to be you no matter if it's chosen or not.. THAT is the point. It's your RIGHTS.

If a choice you make that gives you happiness doesent lead to harm and violation of consent it is your RIGHT to make that choice or live that which draws you naturally even if you think it's not a choice._ or everyone else thinks it's an abomination ...This origin of gayness debate is clouding the REAL argument _it does not matter at all_. Because you have _The right to do what you do ti persue happiness and you are as a human being and american citizen entitled to full equal rights under the law that any hetero citizen has in this country period_.

It's called your inailiable HUMAN RIGHTS.Equal rights under the LAW All citizens being equal and having inaliable rights given by thier creator kinda stuff from the constitution/bill of rights..remember?


It is not"special rights", for gays,it's simply extending human rights for all people equally.DEmanding your rights as a human being reminds authoritarian control freak people inaliable human rights that apply for them also apply for for gays women blacks hispanics transpweople cat people.. WE are all are human beings and human beings are due inaliable human rights in this country..There is no caste systems here based on race or orientation,the constitution and bill of rights forbids it. It's the culture of control within this free country that does not_get with it_.

You are a human being with rights to be who you are even if fundies get tweaked and can't stand it . Fuck the fundies opinions and culture crap..you have human rights endowed by the creator according to the constitution/bill of rights..and last time I looked gays are human beings,American citizens entitled to equal rights under under the law. THe founding fathers knew about tyranny and they knew opression under a king. And they would be outraged.Cotton mathers abound and they would be burning us at the stake if it was not for the constitution of the united states that protects us gay people and the stupid bigots both.

Those "special rights" fundies are in a twist about? They are the same rights that are there for every human being every American in America. That is why racism could not stand against the bill of rights, nor woman's opression and denying women the vote..Blacks ands women demanded to be real human beings with rights in a democracy..what a concept..and the autocrats lurking in the system didn't like these uppity blacks and women but these uppities were right and got the human rights despite the bigots and tweekers trying to take them away and make blacks and women second class citizens.. Gay rights is the next wave of freedom for Americans who want to take the definition of who deserves human rights back from the bigots.If people didn't insist on thier HUMAN RIGHTS,declare who is a 3/4 of a human being and not derving of freedom based on thier own bigotries.

Either we are all Human beings with imaliable rights or we are a classed system where certain kinds of people are delared by autocrats as less than himan.
What we are fighying for is our human rights,and you have a right to be who you are and be protected as any other person is under the law of THIS land..

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The reality is that homosexual adults, who are attracted to other homosexual adults, and who only wish to have mutually consenting relationships with others, are seen by many people as monsters, as perverts, as abominations.

Gay people know that this is a reality that does not change for some, regardless of evidence to the contrary, regardless of reason, regardless of principles of democracy and rights and freedom, regardless of the principles of the Constitution of the US.

Again, this speaks volumes about what is really going on.

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