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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-03 09:52 AM
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12. Maybe you should pay more attention
There are MANY DUers that say EXACTLY that.
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  -For everyone who thinks Cuba is a flourishing democracy...read this. DealsGapRider  Sep-18-03 09:34 AM   #0 
  - riiiiiight  Kamika   Sep-18-03 09:36 AM   #1 
  - I've NEVER heard anybody say that  meegbear   Sep-18-03 09:36 AM   #2 
  - Maybe you shouldn't be such a jerk.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 09:44 AM   #8 
  - Who thought Cuba was a flourishing democracy???  Evil_Dewers   Sep-18-03 09:59 AM   #21 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-03 10:01 AM   #26 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-03 10:03 AM   #29 
        - I'm not sure if JanM made such a claim  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:06 AM   #33 
        - Ay caramba!  JanMichael   Sep-18-03 10:09 AM   #38 
        - I've participated in those threads but never said that Cuba...  JanMichael   Sep-18-03 10:21 AM   #54 
           - judilyn  rchsod   Sep-18-03 10:47 AM   #74 
           - JudiLyn and Mika  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 10:58 AM   #80 
           - It is a flourishing democracy  Mika   Sep-18-03 08:09 PM   #139 
  - Maybe you should pay more attention  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 09:52 AM   #12 
  - I've never read anything here to suggest that Cuba was a democracy,  Brian Sweat   Sep-18-03 10:19 AM   #52 
  - plenty of people here say it  Cheswick   Sep-18-03 10:57 AM   #79 
  - Cuba isn't a democracy  quinnox   Sep-18-03 09:37 AM   #3 
  - who said that it was?  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 09:37 AM   #4 
  - Are you kidding? I've seen a number of posts on DU  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 09:44 AM   #7 
     - DealsGapRider is correct many DUers do make such a claim  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 09:55 AM   #17 
     - "Are you kidding? I've seen a number of posts on DU"  Evil_Dewers   Sep-18-03 10:00 AM   #24 
     - I'm trying to find them, but the search function isn't working.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:08 AM   #35 
     - search function is working for me  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:15 AM   #45 
     - Here you go.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:18 AM   #49 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-18-03 10:41 AM   #67 
     - Now wait a minute...  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 10:05 AM   #31 
     - Sure you have.  BurtWorm   Sep-18-03 11:02 AM   #82 
  - Who is saying that?...but continuing the USA boycott is foolish and  glarius   Sep-18-03 09:38 AM   #5 
  - Castro=Scumbag  sgr2   Sep-18-03 09:40 AM   #6 
  - for anybody who thinks up is down...  HootieMcBoob   Sep-18-03 09:45 AM   #9 
  - Lech Walesa is not a champion of human rights  IndianaGreen   Sep-18-03 09:48 AM   #10 
  - Some very smart people disagree.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 09:51 AM   #11 
  - Bill Clinton gave us Plan Colombia  IndianaGreen   Sep-18-03 09:55 AM   #16 
  - So equal status is all about birth control?  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 09:54 AM   #14 
  - Anyone that does not give women full civil rights  IndianaGreen   Sep-18-03 09:56 AM   #19 
     - I disagree  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 09:59 AM   #22 
        - I love it when Conservatism dons the liberal multi-cultural mantle.  JVS   Sep-18-03 10:01 AM   #27 
        - I'm not a conservative.  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:05 AM   #32 
           - now you're ad hominem  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:09 AM   #37 
           - What do you mean by "JVS is one of you?"  JVS   Sep-18-03 10:13 AM   #42 
              - let's just say...  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:14 AM   #44 
                 - If you mean by our avatars, perhaps  JVS   Sep-18-03 10:18 AM   #48 
                    - thats right...you consider yourself a poor Christian  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:19 AM   #53 
                       - Where's your pointy hat?  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:22 AM   #56 
                          - The Popes wearing it  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 02:38 PM   #129 
           - I'm not saying that you are a conservative.  JVS   Sep-18-03 10:11 AM   #41 
              - I see it this way  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:18 AM   #50 
        - like the people who cut women's genitals when they're young?  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:08 AM   #36 
           - whatever  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:22 AM   #55 
  - You are brave to take a firm stand like this. I salute you!  JVS   Sep-18-03 10:00 AM   #23 
  - Exactly!  Mairead   Sep-18-03 10:33 AM   #63 
  - I often wonder what Castro and Cuba would have been like...  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 09:53 AM   #13 
  - Stretch  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:04 AM   #30 
  - It's not a stretch. It's an honest supposition.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 10:13 AM   #43 
     - What does US foreign policy have to do with human rights in Cuba?  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:32 AM   #62 
        - Look up the propaganda tactics used against Allende for an example  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 10:42 AM   #68 
        - What part of US government financed dissidents dont DUers understand?  Osolomia   Sep-18-03 04:03 PM   #134 
  - On the other hand  Nederland   Sep-18-03 10:11 AM   #40 
  - It's important to remember, Nederland...  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 10:17 AM   #46 
     - Sustainability is the key  Nederland   Sep-18-03 10:30 AM   #60 
        - Europe is neither a former colony, nor an economic pariah.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 10:43 AM   #70 
           - Response  Nederland   Sep-18-03 11:36 AM   #87 
              - Counter-response  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 11:43 AM   #88 
                 - Actually  Nederland   Sep-18-03 12:31 PM   #102 
                    - It's probably due to unyielding statism in the economy.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 12:39 PM   #103 
                       - Bravo  Nederland   Sep-18-03 01:12 PM   #114 
                          - I'm just trying to capitalize on your post on my "liberalism" thread...  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 01:20 PM   #115 
  - GOOD OBSERVATIONS & ANALYSIS  blindpig   Sep-18-03 10:19 AM   #51 
  - It would be easy to find equal "proof" that the USA is not a "democracy  RichM   Sep-18-03 09:54 AM   #15 
  - Strawman  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 09:57 AM   #20 
     - Sure it does!  IndianaGreen   Sep-18-03 10:00 AM   #25 
     - Incorrect. It is a statement made in respsonse to the spread  Blue_Chill   Sep-18-03 10:03 AM   #28 
     - OK...who said democracy flourished in Cuba?  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:10 AM   #39 
        - How much crow would you like to eat?  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:17 AM   #47 
           - crow?  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:26 AM   #58 
  - i can't remember a single person  buddhamama   Sep-18-03 09:56 AM   #18 
  - - cuba is a flourishing democracy ??????  rchsod   Sep-18-03 10:07 AM   #34 
  - Ahem  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:26 AM   #59 
     - Hey DealsGapRider, you neglected this part of my post  Mika   Sep-18-03 07:13 PM   #138 
  - I have a question... How does America treat people who...  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:24 AM   #57 
  - The most "antidemocratic" part of Cuba is Guantanamo Bay!  RichM   Sep-18-03 10:32 AM   #61 
     - It is a crime in the US and most countries to...  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:42 AM   #69 
     - What a ridiculous statement.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 10:43 AM   #71 
        - what a Republican talking point  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:46 AM   #73 
        - How do you know what Gitmo is full of?  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 10:48 AM   #75 
        - Yes, at least some of the prisoners  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 10:51 AM   #78 
        - Is it? When were they convicted?  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:50 AM   #77 
        - HA ha ha -- you sound just like Ollie North!  RichM   Sep-18-03 11:58 AM   #90 
        - Cut The Shit About Those Who Wear the Uniform  Mary T   Sep-18-03 01:43 PM   #119 
           - Hi Mary  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 02:08 PM   #122 
           - So, you're saying you disagree with the initial poster???  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 02:16 PM   #125 
              - I've been on her bad side  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 02:26 PM   #128 
  - The point is not that Cuba is some sort of paradise, BUT...  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 10:35 AM   #64 
  - Well stated, Lydia.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 10:50 AM   #76 
  - I'm still not seeing where...  Tatiana   Sep-18-03 10:37 AM   #65 
  - i`ve gone over a month`s  rchsod   Sep-18-03 10:40 AM   #66 
  - I'm far more concerned about our flourishing Democracy locking up  nothingshocksmeanymore   Sep-18-03 10:46 AM   #72 
  - are those charges still pending?  Terwilliger   Sep-18-03 10:59 AM   #81 
  - What's the term again....oh yes, moral relativism.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 11:11 AM   #83 
  - A term created by the RIGHT..I don't respond to right wing propaganda  nothingshocksmeanymore   Sep-18-03 11:17 AM   #84 
  - Then please cite those "very good reasons"  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 11:18 AM   #85 
  - You were so busy handing out crow earlier  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 11:21 AM   #86 
     - I know it is full of people who were deemed by our armed forces...  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 12:03 PM   #91 
        - Oh, well!  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 12:19 PM   #94 
        - I tell you what.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 12:42 PM   #104 
           - What a complete ad-hominem cop-out!  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 01:41 PM   #118 
              - I agree!!!  U4ikLefty   Sep-18-03 08:35 PM   #140 
        - " requirements of international law and human rights..."  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 12:28 PM   #99 
        - Can you explain to me how we're supposed to convict these people?  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 12:51 PM   #110 
           - Wow  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 02:10 PM   #123 
           - So what is your problem with Cuba?  oldcoot   Sep-18-03 06:56 PM   #137 
        - Then why Amnesty International has been so outspoken about it?  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 12:30 PM   #100 
  - Question for the pro-Cuba crowd  Nederland   Sep-18-03 11:50 AM   #89 
     - Better comparison  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 12:14 PM   #92 
     - Thank you  Nederland   Sep-18-03 12:20 PM   #95 
        - The US is more democratic than Cuba? Can you remind me how Bush  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 02:15 PM   #124 
           - Good Lord  Nederland   Sep-18-03 03:10 PM   #132 
              - No, what I am suggesting is that the US can't possibly  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:26 PM   #142 
     - Pro Cuba crowd?  nothingshocksmeanymore   Sep-18-03 12:16 PM   #93 
     - Yes, NSMA. Why China and not Cuba?  Lydia Leftcoast   Sep-18-03 12:25 PM   #98 
        - There's no question that the Cuba embargo is inconsistent.  DealsGapRider   Sep-18-03 12:31 PM   #101 
           - Agreed  Nederland   Sep-18-03 12:48 PM   #107 
              - In answer to your simplistic question, you are right.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 12:51 PM   #109 
              - True  Nederland   Sep-18-03 01:35 PM   #117 
                 - Now we're REALLY veering off-topic with discussions of power politics  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 01:54 PM   #121 
                 - Less violent?  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 02:20 PM   #127 
                    - Compared to Whom?  Nederland   Sep-18-03 02:50 PM   #130 
                       - None that claimed to be "the leader of the free world"  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:29 PM   #143 
              - Keep the embargo  Muddleoftheroad   Sep-18-03 01:34 PM   #116 
              - Disagree  Nederland   Sep-18-03 01:49 PM   #120 
              - Hiw did George W Bush become President of the US?  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 02:18 PM   #126 
                 - At least Al Gore had a chance  Nederland   Sep-18-03 02:53 PM   #131 
                    - Did he?  Devils Advocate NZ   Sep-18-03 10:35 PM   #144 
                       - I guess  Nederland   Sep-19-03 09:43 AM   #147 
                          - That's not the argument being made, Nederland.  IrateCitizen   Sep-19-03 10:00 AM   #148 
                             - Never used the word "flourishing" Chris  Nederland   Sep-19-03 11:30 AM   #149 
     - I'm disappointed to see such a strawman from you, Nederland  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 12:22 PM   #96 
        - Bravo  SweetZombieJesus   Sep-18-03 12:23 PM   #97 
        - Its just a question  Nederland   Sep-18-03 12:43 PM   #105 
           - But since I did answer, I'd like to hear your thoughts.  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 12:49 PM   #108 
              - Sorry  Nederland   Sep-18-03 01:05 PM   #111 
                 - You could always abbreviate...  IrateCitizen   Sep-18-03 01:07 PM   #112 
  - Funny Thread...  MrPrax   Sep-18-03 12:46 PM   #106 
  - Yeah  Nederland   Sep-18-03 01:11 PM   #113 
  - Travel banned DUers spewing their cold war fantasies yet again  Osolomia   Sep-18-03 03:25 PM   #133 
  - FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO LEARN about "democracy" in Cuba  Osolomia   Sep-18-03 05:38 PM   #135 
  - There is a bad side and a good side to Cuba.  Cascadian   Sep-18-03 05:45 PM   #136 
  - You certainly showed all them Cuba lovers!  haymaker   Sep-18-03 08:59 PM   #141 
     - The pro-Cuba crowd includes a BIPARTISAN MAJORITY in the USA!  Osolomia   Sep-19-03 08:16 AM   #145 
     - How many Cuba lovers? over 12 million  Mika   Sep-19-03 08:18 AM   #146 
 

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