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35. The problem is when you say Fascist
Edited on Mon May-02-05 07:46 PM by Toby109
people think Nazi. And when people think Nazi, they think of the Holocaust, genocide, WWII, epic stuff. They make no comparison to present day, and rightly so. Our job, as I see it, is to recognize and point out the trends towards full fascism in this country. We are the Democratic Underground.
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  -I think that we at DU throw around the word 'Fascism' a bit too much Mass_Liberal  May-02-05 07:13 PM   #0 
  - Yea right  DemNoir   May-02-05 07:15 PM   #1 
  - You Communists always go too far  LittleClarkie   May-02-05 07:16 PM   #6 
  - Reminds me of a quote  gort   May-03-05 01:19 AM   #151 
  - if you wrap it in a flag, they'll buy it with no questions  thebigidea   May-02-05 07:16 PM   #2 
  - duh.....  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 07:16 PM   #5 
  - correct me if i'm wrong...  thebigidea   May-02-05 07:17 PM   #8 
  - ok  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 07:18 PM   #9 
     - would they flip out if Republicans ran the state run media? I doubt it.  thebigidea   May-02-05 07:19 PM   #11 
     - yea  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:11 PM   #47 
     - fox news, gannon, paid shills, talk radio, etc...  bpilgrim   May-02-05 07:20 PM   #15 
     - Fox news is run  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:24 PM   #57 
        - they're in OPEN collusion with each other and don't forget the other shill  bpilgrim   May-02-05 08:31 PM   #63 
     - Well, then, your average republican should step up to the plate now,  classof56   May-02-05 07:36 PM   #32 
  - Like crying wolf, we may be desensitizing folks to the word  LittleClarkie   May-02-05 07:16 PM   #3 
  - It's already happened....that's what we keep trying to tell people....  Media_Lies_Daily   May-02-05 09:11 PM   #80 
  - but not us, er..not all of us.  goodboy   May-02-05 09:15 PM   #85 
  - why haven't they been desensitized to "liberal" or "liberal bias" or  goodboy   May-02-05 11:28 PM   #139 
  - People should know  H2O Man   May-02-05 07:16 PM   #4 
  - I looked it up before I started using  zidzi   May-02-05 11:01 PM   #134 
     - That's it.  H2O Man   May-03-05 05:54 AM   #160 
        - Words have meaning and power  zidzi   May-04-05 12:26 PM   #168 
           - Good.  H2O Man   May-04-05 12:28 PM   #169 
              - Hey, WaterMan!  zidzi   May-04-05 12:31 PM   #170 
                 - That looks  H2O Man   May-04-05 12:38 PM   #171 
  - YES, I believe ALL those things as the future of the gop nazi party  radwriter0555   May-02-05 07:17 PM   #7 
  - I just have to ask  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 07:20 PM   #13 
     - about "average Republicans"  SlavesandBulldozers   May-02-05 07:26 PM   #21 
     - where are the "average" repukes...(crickets)  goodboy   May-02-05 07:28 PM   #23 
  - depends who your talking about. if it's the neoCONs it isn't used often  bpilgrim   May-02-05 07:18 PM   #10 
  - The American Heritage Dictionary defines "fascism" very clearly  Generic Other   May-02-05 07:20 PM   #12 
  - erm... all of it  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 07:22 PM   #18 
     - he was not elected. the checks and balances melted away  goodboy   May-02-05 07:35 PM   #30 
     - well in that case  Mass_Liberal   May-03-05 06:28 AM   #162 
        - no...I'm taking issue with the fraudulent elections. (nt)  goodboy   May-03-05 03:11 PM   #166 
           - no  Mass_Liberal   May-04-05 12:58 PM   #172 
     - .  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 07:43 PM   #34 
     - Whoah, dude,...surely you're not denying the attack on checks/balances.  Just Me   May-02-05 07:53 PM   #39 
     - how about destroying our judiciary...that is how hitler got control of  goodboy   May-02-05 07:54 PM   #40 
     - I don't think so  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:19 PM   #51 
        - he shut down al Sadr's newspaper in Iraq and set the insurgency on fire,  goodboy   May-02-05 08:22 PM   #55 
        - No. He creates laws that PROTECT big corporations. That's not FREE!  Just Me   May-02-05 08:34 PM   #64 
        - I don't think the rethugs ar going to line us up and shoot us into a ditch  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 09:16 PM   #87 
        - you don't have to be a nazi to be a fascist. (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 09:20 PM   #90 
        - I totally agree with you here. In fact, I have been quite interested in  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 09:33 PM   #94 
           - thank you, KT, I think the first step toward educating people  goodboy   May-02-05 09:40 PM   #97 
        - obviously you are not Gay  mitchtv   May-02-05 09:51 PM   #105 
           - YOu are correct. I am not gay. I never meant to undermind your struggle.  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 09:56 PM   #110 
              - well there is an overwlming number  mitchtv   May-02-05 10:02 PM   #114 
                 - I can't disagree with anything you just said.  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 10:31 PM   #125 
        - sorry this is a matter of word choice  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 09:49 PM   #103 
           - which would be yet ANOTHER of the 14 pts. of fascism, number 9  goodboy   May-02-05 09:54 PM   #107 
        - WRONG  bpilgrim   May-02-05 09:14 PM   #82 
        - right! FYI,  goodboy   May-02-05 09:15 PM   #84 
        - they did shut down Somalia's Internet and a telecom business ...  cosmicdot   May-02-05 09:49 PM   #102 
           - free speech zones anyone? The white-house produced fake news  goodboy   May-02-05 09:52 PM   # 
           - Plus they were also shooting journalists  bloom   May-02-05 10:54 PM   #129 
              - and the Italian journalist they tried to kill...and possibly even  goodboy   May-02-05 10:56 PM   #130 
     - If you say it fast enough, it sounds just like democracy as we know it  Generic Other   May-02-05 08:40 PM   #68 
  - The Neocons and their circle are fascists. Those who are betrayed,...  Just Me   May-02-05 07:20 PM   #14 
  - CORPORATISM is the term we must use in it's place  NEOBuckeye   May-02-05 07:21 PM   #16 
  - see Benito didn't even like being called a fascist  SlavesandBulldozers   May-02-05 07:30 PM   #25 
  - I agree with you, but I don't think it "pops" quite like "fascist"  goodboy   May-02-05 08:27 PM   #61 
     - ""pops" quite like "fascist""  Kerrytravelers   May-03-05 12:18 AM   #145 
  - I will throw it around right now.  PowerToThePeople   May-02-05 07:22 PM   #17 
  - Rove's goal is a one party Amerika.  Disturbed   May-02-05 07:33 PM   #28 
  - Isn't this always the way...  DemNoir   May-02-05 07:23 PM   #19 
  - Oh sure, all those millions of reasonable republicans ...  tabasco   May-02-05 07:25 PM   #20 
  - my humble opinion....  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 07:34 PM   #29 
     - There are millions of easily manipulated people in this country.  tabasco   May-02-05 08:20 PM   #52 
     - maybe you would like to read this:  bloom   May-02-05 11:00 PM   #132 
  - I don't think we use the word "fascist" enough! And yes, I do think  goodboy   May-02-05 07:27 PM   #22 
  - Sir!  DemNoir   May-02-05 07:31 PM   #27 
     - Now I must suppress you! The opposition! You're a communist!  goodboy   May-02-05 07:36 PM   #31 
  - A bunch of ignorant republicans ...  Trajan   May-02-05 07:29 PM   #24 
  - Read the articles  Somawas   May-02-05 07:30 PM   #26 
  - Who said this?  goodboy   May-02-05 07:37 PM   #33 
  - The problem is when you say Fascist  Toby109   May-02-05 07:45 PM   #35 
  - you don't have to be a nazi to be a fascist...we should make that  goodboy   May-02-05 07:47 PM   #36 
  - They call us Godless Commies  Selteri   May-02-05 07:49 PM   #37 
  - Bush is Hitler  AngryAmish   May-02-05 07:50 PM   #38 
  - That's a pretty fascists statement  lastknowngood   May-02-05 07:56 PM   #41 
  - i disagree, and no it isnt about flaming  seabeyond   May-02-05 07:56 PM   #42 
  - 6.) Controlled Mass Media (another one of the 14 pts. of fascism)  goodboy   May-02-05 09:04 PM   #75 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 07:58 PM   #43 
  - I think of Fascism as mass psychological event  creeksneakers2   May-02-05 08:03 PM   #44 
  - Yes, I do believe in many instances Republicans do favor fascism  deutsey   May-02-05 08:07 PM   #45 
  - wow  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:22 PM   #54 
     - MANY reTHUGlicans agree with the FASCIST PNAC agenda and the ILLEGAL  bpilgrim   May-02-05 08:37 PM   #66 
  - I think using patriotism to get people to vote for elite things - against  applegrove   May-02-05 08:10 PM   #46 
  - it's nationalism...not patriotism. (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 08:13 PM   #48 
     - It is all tribalism. It is an old trick. In more organized societies it is  applegrove   May-02-05 08:27 PM   #60 
        - rampant cronyism and corruption right? another of the 14 pts. of fascism  goodboy   May-02-05 08:28 PM   #62 
           - They are pretty good at following the letter of the law (even if they  applegrove   May-02-05 08:43 PM   #69 
              - that's why they're trying to kill our judiciary, and as for the academics,  goodboy   May-02-05 09:09 PM   #79 
                 - They've had to tame the beast they created. It was biting them back.  applegrove   May-03-05 12:11 AM   #143 
                    - That's twice in less than a week! He slapped the right at his "press  goodboy   May-03-05 12:14 AM   #144 
  - I disagree....  Raksha   May-02-05 08:15 PM   #49 
  - go Raksha! (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 08:18 PM   #50 
  - I agree Raksha  mitchtv   May-02-05 09:57 PM   #112 
  - Here is my take on this.....  whistle   May-02-05 08:20 PM   #53 
  - Kick for your post, Whistle! Right on.  goodboy   May-02-05 08:23 PM   #56 
  - this is kind of a fallacy  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:47 PM   #70 
  - bullshit! Fascist governments tend to use the most common religion in  goodboy   May-02-05 08:58 PM   #72 
  - Wrong....  Robeson   May-02-05 10:29 PM   #123 
  - Great post. In the region I live in , you've described most...  Robeson   May-02-05 10:30 PM   #124 
  - "average Republican" is not the way to...  slor   May-02-05 08:25 PM   #58 
  - fascists. (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 08:26 PM   #59 
  - I'd appreciate it if you would address some of my points in this thread.  goodboy   May-02-05 08:35 PM   #65 
  - No, but that's exactly what the neocons want  Lydia Leftcoast   May-02-05 08:39 PM   #67 
  - ok  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 08:55 PM   #71 
  - addressing each of your points:  goodboy   May-02-05 09:03 PM   #74 
     - they weren't points  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 09:38 PM   #95 
        - ok, fine, moving on. Would you be so kind as to respond to some of  goodboy   May-02-05 09:44 PM   #98 
  - The average republican  Nite Owl   May-02-05 09:01 PM   #73 
  - Disagree  Finder   May-04-05 01:00 PM   #173 
  - And then what should we call them, patriots?  Cleita   May-02-05 09:07 PM   #76 
  - yes...and who are these "average" repukes. (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 09:07 PM   #77 
  - Don't insult the poor ducks.  Kerrytravelers   May-02-05 09:25 PM   #93 
  - I don't think we throw it around enough....  Media_Lies_Daily   May-02-05 09:08 PM   #78 
  - You fascist-enabling commie  leftofthedial   May-02-05 09:12 PM   #81 
  - come on, leftofthedial...which of these things DO NOT apply to the  goodboy   May-02-05 09:14 PM   #83 
     - whoa! goodboy  leftofthedial   May-02-05 09:21 PM   #91 
     - whew! ok cool...  goodboy   May-02-05 09:24 PM   #92 
     - Gee. Prescott Bush helped arm the NAZIs.  Octafish   May-02-05 09:39 PM   #96 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-02-05 11:48 PM   #142 
           - Yeah...I'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there...  goodboy   May-03-05 12:20 AM   #146 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-05 12:37 AM   #147 
                 - well,  goodboy   May-03-05 12:53 AM   #149 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-05 01:00 AM   #150 
                       - ok, cool. (nt)  goodboy   May-03-05 01:20 AM   #152 
  - OK, "fascist cult" then  mmonk   May-02-05 09:16 PM   #86 
  - Yeah, Mass_Liberal, I'd like to see you address goodboy's points as well  Beam Me Up   May-02-05 09:16 PM   #88 
  - thank you. (nt)  goodboy   May-02-05 09:18 PM   #89 
  - Now it starts  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 09:46 PM   #99 
     - but you have yet to defend your position in a convincing way...  goodboy   May-02-05 09:48 PM   #101 
     - ok  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 10:11 PM   #117 
        - thanks for responding, but you failed again to make your case.  goodboy   May-02-05 10:53 PM   #128 
        - waiting...  goodboy   May-02-05 11:01 PM   #133 
           - still waiting....  goodboy   May-02-05 11:10 PM   #136 
              - and I'm still waiting...  goodboy   May-02-05 11:18 PM   #137 
                 - I have to get to bed soon Mass_Liberal..  goodboy   May-02-05 11:42 PM   #141 
        - The Nazis only respected "state approved" artists  Art_from_Ark   May-03-05 06:29 AM   #163 
        - Republicans know the US is becoming fascist.  Finder   May-04-05 01:09 PM   #174 
     - I think it IS hyperbolic to call the Bushies "Nazis," because  Lydia Leftcoast   May-02-05 09:55 PM   #108 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   May-03-05 12:39 AM   #148 
     - Uhh Uhn -- I didn't say you weren't a liberal. I said,  Beam Me Up   May-02-05 10:19 PM   #120 
  - No, the neocons are fascists all right. Why pussyfoot  katinmn   May-02-05 09:46 PM   #100 
  - once again  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 09:50 PM   #104 
     - you don't mean "rank and file" you mean goose-stepping. you still  goodboy   May-02-05 09:55 PM   #109 
     - I was talking about  Mass_Liberal   May-02-05 10:14 PM   #118 
        - I know who you were talking about, and except for an infinitesimally  goodboy   May-02-05 10:59 PM   #131 
     - The neocons are the ones in power, and we are in a  katinmn   May-02-05 10:17 PM   #119 
  - Republicans are fascists, whether they understand that they are or not.  Zorra   May-02-05 09:52 PM   #106 
  - and here:  goodboy   May-02-05 09:58 PM   #113 
  - Good you have on your suit...nope you're just in denial...  lonestarnot   May-02-05 09:56 PM   #111 
  - I don't think it's overused when describing The War President and  bobthedrummer   May-02-05 10:03 PM   #115 
  - fasiscts? Where are da fascists? We don't need no stinkin' fascists!  Mr_Spock   May-02-05 10:06 PM   #116 
  - Well, check this link out then you tell me...  ailsagirl   May-02-05 10:19 PM   #121 
  - No. It is what it is. Mussolini defined it. He's the father of....  Robeson   May-02-05 10:24 PM   #122 
  - I don't think we say it enough.  Lindacooks   May-02-05 10:33 PM   #126 
  - If we were wrong  bloom   May-02-05 10:49 PM   #127 
  - no offense...i dont waste my time defending these people. NT  rndmprsn   May-02-05 11:03 PM   #135 
  - hahaha  Mass_Liberal   May-03-05 06:17 AM   #161 
  - No, I don't think we use it ENOUGH!  renaissanceguy   May-02-05 11:21 PM   #138 
  - Ok I'm wrong wrong wrong  agincourt   May-02-05 11:32 PM   #140 
  - What you describe is a very rigid definition.  UdoKier   May-03-05 01:59 AM   #153 
  - Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism Fascism  Swamp Rat   May-03-05 02:05 AM   #154 
  - The Fascist/Hitler Screamers Only Marginalize Themselves  DoveTurnedHawk   May-03-05 02:07 AM   #155 
  - Marginalized fascist screamers like FDR, his VP Henry Wallace,  Zorra   May-03-05 03:27 PM   #167 
  - I think you are dead wrong  Skittles   May-03-05 02:15 AM   #156 
  - A bit too much?  mogster   May-03-05 02:52 AM   #157 
  - It depends upon which side of the flies/honey  delete_bush   May-03-05 03:03 AM   #158 
  - Yes, I honestly think fascism is on the rise.  anitar1   May-03-05 03:07 AM   #159 
  - Read this. 14 points of Fascism.  in_cog_ni_to   May-03-05 06:32 AM   #164 
  - It's irrelevant  Malva Zebrina   May-03-05 06:54 AM   #165 
 

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