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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 07:48 PM
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60. Denial. They're mainly in denial, and interpret their beliefs and
actions as GOOD for everyone and everything when in fact it's mostly just self-serving garbage.

I think your term neotheocons is quite clever but after a few minutes' consideration, I want to make sure everyone understands that the neocons and the theocrats basically USE one another, they're not really one and the same. That's because the neocons respect religion as something of what Lenin called it: the opiate of the masses. The neocons see it as very useful for keeping the common man (and woman), to whom they are vastly superior, enthralled and busy and "moral" enough so that they can do what THEY do best (they believe), which is rule the masses.

And they RULE the masses in part by lying to them -- but you see, their lies are not only okay, they're required. The masses must not be told the truth, lest it be bad for them. Only the pure, the uber moral, the rulers are good enough to be trusted with the truth.

And so forth and so on. Their philosophy is really something to behold. It's worth understanding, and in case anyone doesn't understand some of the basics about neocon thought and political beliefs, I'll add some links. The key thing to note, I think, is that their belief system makes them unreachable. It makes them sociopaths, without guilt or conscience (or maybe they already are), and so there's NO WAY to appeal to them on the basis of truth. You can't tell them they're wrong, they're convinced they're right and that they're superior enough that THEIR belief is the correct one; they believe they have not just the right but the obligation to deceive, so deception is the rule of the day and you can't guilt-trip them out of it. They're unreachable.

They're also fascists. Their founder, Leo Strauss, was Jewish and had to leave Nazi Germany himself, but was also much enthralled with fascism -- in fact, so enthralled that he wished for a fascism that wasn't anti-Semitic, a fasicsm that included Jews, a fascism that was "universal." One of his students, Michael Ledeen, later wrote a book by that title: Universal Fascism. Alas, I haven't read it. I'd like to, but I'm also reminded of the fact that these Straussians, these neocons, are said to write in a very obtuse, non-disclosing style which masks their true intent unless you know the code.

A few links:

One more time: LEO STRAUSS AND THE NEO-CONS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/du...
WAKE UP! - Strauss / Neocons and Terror PLUS dire warnings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Leo Strauss and the Noble Lie: The Neo-Cons at War
http://www.logosjournal.com/mason.htm

Straussian.net -- Leo Strauss and the History of Political Thought
(with Discussion Forums! Book Reviews and a News Blog)
http://www2.bc.edu/~wilsonop/strauss.html

Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
By Jim Lobe, AlterNet. Posted May 19, 2003.
http://www.alternet.org/story/15935
linked to from this thread: Has Straussian ideology permeated the GOP?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Eurolegal Services - Neoconservatives
http://www.eurolegal.org/useur/usneocon.htm
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