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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-03 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #28
38. Hey, I like Kucinich and his supporters.
Edited on Wed Sep-17-03 11:18 PM by stickdog
There are several reasons Dean's campaign took off instead of Kucinich's -- not the least of which is the fact that Dennis UTTERLY frightens the establishment.

I'm simply talking about the extreme importance of Dean's campaign dynamics here -- especially to future progressive candidates and causes.

I'm banking on the fact that Dean's amazing success with his campaign of "informed populism" will help pave the way for even more populist/progressive candidates (like Kucinich) in the near future.
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  -Dean Haters = Populism Haters = Status Quo Lovers stickdog  Sep-17-03 10:11 PM   #0 
  - It is nice that we can get info from the campaign so fast.  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:13 PM   #1 
  - Dude, any campaign can deliver news over the internet.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:21 PM   #5 
     - I know that people can get the info in so many ways.  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:23 PM   #8 
        - Yes, but it's the feedback and the fact that the feedback is actually  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:31 PM   #15 
           - Ah I see...  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:33 PM   #17 
              - From and to.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:40 PM   #20 
                 - My favorite part about the campaign is the meetups...  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:43 PM   #24 
  - I love populists. If I am not yet sold on dean, it isn't because he  roguevalley   Sep-17-03 10:14 PM   #2 
  - Dean has the cojones...but then I am a supporter from a long time  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:15 PM   #3 
  - Dean isn't important enough to have "haters"  Cheswick   Sep-17-03 10:20 PM   #4 
  - I don't like Dean  quinnox   Sep-17-03 10:22 PM   #6 
  - Brilliant rejoinder!  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:28 PM   #13 
  - Is it OK to refuse to make a cogent response to anything I wrote  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:26 PM   #10 
  - yep...those non-important front runners  Forkboy   Sep-17-03 10:43 PM   # 
  - My god, do you people really believe bizillions will be raised  Starpass   Sep-17-03 10:23 PM   #7 
  - So you are anti-populism and pro-status quo.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:27 PM   #11 
  - No, I would prefer having years and years of Bushes in the WH  Starpass   Sep-17-03 10:37 PM   #18 
  - Well let me see...if you got four hundred thousand people to  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:29 PM   #14 
  - wait a sec  Vikingking66   Sep-17-03 11:22 PM   #40 
  - I'm okay with Dean ...  Pepperbelly   Sep-17-03 10:24 PM   #9 
  - That's RIDICULOUS!  Darranar   Sep-17-03 10:28 PM   #12 
  - Try reading past the subject line. (NT)  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:33 PM   #16 
  - You are right  gate of the sun   Sep-17-03 11:12 PM   #35 
     - Say what you will.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:21 PM   #39 
     - according to you  gate of the sun   Sep-17-03 11:28 PM   #45 
        - Why? So you can tear him down compared to absolute perfection or  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:48 PM   #54 
     - Dean's Statement on the Patriot Act  Vikingking66   Sep-17-03 11:26 PM   #43 
     - but yet for all that talk  gate of the sun   Sep-17-03 11:41 PM   #51 
     - Argue the nuances of Dean's obvious anti-Patriot Act stance somewhere  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:53 PM   #56 
     - the war on terror  gate of the sun   Sep-17-03 11:43 PM   #52 
     - He wants to repeal the unconstitutional parts of Patriot  Eloriel   Sep-18-03 12:23 AM   #66 
  - It's the first Open Source, iterative Presidential Campaign in  Eloriel   Sep-17-03 10:38 PM   #19 
  - power to the people...guess Dean is like Jefferson and not  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:42 PM   #22 
  - How many ways do people have to say  kenzee13   Sep-17-03 11:56 PM   # 
     - Because you can, at the same time, work WITHIN the Dean campaign  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:29 AM   #71 
  - O.K. that was 2003. soooo...what's the poltical story of 2004?  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-17-03 10:40 PM   #21 
  - heh  quinnox   Sep-17-03 10:43 PM   #25 
  - Once again, not a single substantive response to anything I wrote.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:52 PM   #29 
  - O.K. "You" are using Dean  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-17-03 11:44 PM   #53 
     - In a Bill Withers' sense?  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:56 PM   #59 
  - Yeah, Mr. Excitement  Eloriel   Sep-18-03 12:27 AM   #70 
     - Have the Deaners considered that just maybe perhaps they overstate  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-18-03 05:59 AM   #87 
  - When did Dean become a populist?  blm   Sep-17-03 10:42 PM   #23 
  - Wait a moment...Dean has always highlighted his record  dorktv   Sep-17-03 10:44 PM   #26 
  - blm, regardless of what you think of him, his CAMPAIGN is populist.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:08 PM   #33 
  - It's faux populism  GreenArrow   Sep-17-03 11:08 PM   #34 
     - The CAMPAIGN is not status quo.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:26 PM   #44 
     - Campaign is one thing...  GreenArrow   Sep-17-03 11:55 PM   #57 
        - Understood.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:59 PM   #60 
           - tough question  GreenArrow   Sep-18-03 12:24 AM   #67 
     - Umm because the current status quo is far right...  TLM   Sep-17-03 11:55 PM   #58 
     - the status quo is far to the right  GreenArrow   Sep-18-03 12:14 AM   #64 
     - It's not faux populism  Eloriel   Sep-18-03 12:40 AM   #76 
        - Exactly. Which is why I have to cast the Anybody-But-Dean wing of the  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:57 AM   #78 
  - Have you tried renting hangar space for your ego  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-03 10:46 PM   #27 
  - Ad hominem away, POE.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 10:57 PM   #31 
     - Shalt thou brook no dissent?  PurityOfEssence   Sep-18-03 12:40 AM   #75 
        - OK, so the headline was a bit hyperbolic. Overstating the obvious,  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:49 AM   #77 
           - Nah, I got it out of my system  PurityOfEssence   Sep-18-03 01:27 AM   #81 
  - I am TOTALLY anti-status quo -- which is why I support Kucinich.  scarletwoman   Sep-17-03 10:47 PM   #28 
  - He's not accusing folks who support OTHER Dems of being "against" populism  w4rma   Sep-17-03 10:54 PM   #30 
  - I don't "hate" anyone  scarletwoman   Sep-17-03 11:02 PM   #32 
  - As I said "If not, then stickdog's not talking about you."  w4rma   Sep-17-03 11:18 PM   #37 
     - The poster  FDRrocks   Sep-17-03 11:24 PM   #41 
        - No the poster didn't. You misread.  w4rma   Sep-17-03 11:28 PM   #46 
        - Don't put your misquote in my mouth, FDRrocks.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:29 PM   #47 
           - Rather defensive there.  FDRrocks   Sep-17-03 11:32 PM   #48 
              - Got the PM  FDRrocks   Sep-18-03 01:01 AM   #79 
  - I don't think anyone hates Dean  gate of the sun   Sep-17-03 11:14 PM   #36 
     - Never say never. A few do. Most don't.  w4rma   Sep-17-03 11:26 PM   #42 
     - But do you like the potential of his populist-style campaign?  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:34 PM   #49 
  - Hey, I like Kucinich and his supporters.  stickdog   Sep-17-03 11:18 PM   #38 
     - You make a good point there....  scarletwoman   Sep-17-03 11:38 PM   #50 
        - Major kudos from me, scarletwoman!  w4rma   Sep-18-03 12:04 AM   #62 
        - I hope you know I love you and everything you stand for, sw.  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:09 AM   #63 
           - Aw, stickdog, you are too kind...  scarletwoman   Sep-18-03 12:26 AM   #69 
  - whew, glad you cleared that up. now when's the group baptism?  kodi   Sep-17-03 11:49 PM   #55 
  - Ever heard of using a controversial headline to promote an important  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:03 AM   #61 
     - sure the national enquirer does it all the time, that's what U aspire to?  kodi   Sep-18-03 12:25 AM   #68 
  - i am not a "dean" hater i am a "deanie" hater  hedgetrimmer   Sep-18-03 12:23 AM   #65 
  - Do you hate me, hedgetrimmer? (n/t)  w4rma   Sep-18-03 12:31 AM   #72 
  - define yourself in respects to my post and come to your own conclusion  hedgetrimmer   Sep-18-03 12:37 AM   #73 
     - I consider myself a "Deanie", but not by your definition.  w4rma   Sep-18-03 01:56 AM   #85 
  - So what are you doing with your amazing creative energy, hedgetrimmer?  stickdog   Sep-18-03 12:38 AM   #74 
  - Then I don't know of any "deanies," hedgetrimmer  Eloriel   Sep-18-03 01:05 AM   #80 
  - But what if you think Dean is just an asshole....  RummyTheDummy   Sep-18-03 01:28 AM   #82 
  - I'm glad he listens to his supporters  sasquatch   Sep-18-03 01:31 AM   #83 
  - It's not at all clear that things are as you believe them to be  Mairead   Sep-18-03 01:45 AM   #84 
  - Dean will declare his detailed tax plan later. We can evaluate it then.  stickdog   Sep-18-03 02:12 AM   #86 
     - You just changed your argument  Mairead   Sep-18-03 07:14 AM   #88 
        - Reconcile your willful misunderstanding?  stickdog   Sep-18-03 08:31 AM   #91 
           - Sorry, that won't wash. You changed your argument.  Mairead   Sep-19-03 05:44 AM   #98 
  - ugh! What a slug fest!  JNelson6563   Sep-18-03 08:06 AM   #89 
  - <sigh> I object.  LWolf   Sep-18-03 08:26 AM   #90 
  - Yes  CWebster   Sep-18-03 08:46 AM   #92 
  - I don't hate Dean...  Zolok   Sep-18-03 09:06 AM   #93 
     - the latest craze  CWebster   Sep-18-03 09:11 AM   #94 
     - Too true  NewYorkerfromMass   Sep-18-03 09:13 AM   #95 
     - Y' see what I mean....  Zolok   Sep-18-03 09:58 AM   #97 
     - Thats true for every one of the candidates  Forkboy   Sep-18-03 09:15 AM   #96 
 

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