Reply #114: heh!

[ulysses]

I don't know where I got the idea that you hang around DU just to slam the DLC and Democratic "traitors" and "collaborators" who aren't left enough to suit you.

Don't misunderstand me - I loathe the DLC and want to see it gone, and when Dems like Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman collaborate with the GOP, yes, a slam or nine is more than deserved. :)

A lot of what we want to do won't sell on the campaign trail, but we can get to it if we can get into office (including majorities in Congress) and get some momentum going.

I think you're missing my point, but even if you're not, do you really think that, once Democrats are in power to that level, there won't be the "voices of reason" saying that things like national health care *still* can't be brought up because we have to protect the majority now that we've got it?

After all, Bush didn't run on a platform of invading Iraq, killing affirmative action, and drilling in the the Arctic Wildlife Refuge. You can do more for your activists when in power than you can promise them on the campaign trail.

I don't remember if it was you to whom I posted the "dingdingding" reply the other night, but this is my point. The wingnuts can trust the GOP to deliver once they're in office. Based on Clinton's record, my ability to trust the Democrats to deliver for their activists is pretty damaged.

Does that make sense? I'm pretty much flat out here.