Jacobin
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Wed Apr-27-05 06:36 PM
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| 30. The main reason not to spank: It doesn't work |
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Speaking as the father of four boys, of ALL different personalities.
It teaches that violence is a solution to a dispute.
It teaches that if you are bigger and more powerful than someone and they do something you don't like, you get to hit them (bully, anyone?)
There are tons of alternative ways to discipline children that WORK.
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| -More Reasons Not to Spank |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 04:42 PM |
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The Strongest Reason Not To Spank |
CO Liberal |
Apr-27-05 04:44 PM |
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we we see how they turned out |
Shallah |
Apr-27-05 04:49 PM |
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The main reason not to spank: It doesn't work |
Jacobin |
Apr-27-05 06:36 PM |
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The only thing spanking taught me was to LIE ... |
Garage Queen |
Apr-28-05 09:16 AM |
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What are we spanking? |
Rockholm |
Apr-27-05 04:49 PM |
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I got my hopes up for nothing. |
Rufus T. Firefly |
Apr-27-05 04:51 PM |
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I still think |
Mugweed |
Apr-27-05 05:05 PM |
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Oh Heck, Use Pepper Spray. That'll Teach The Buggars Not To |
emanymton |
Apr-27-05 05:09 PM |
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Yeah I'd rather have a child afraid of being hit |
gollygee |
Apr-27-05 05:11 PM |
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I have three respectful children, and oh my... |
phylny |
Apr-27-05 05:24 PM |
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I've never spanked my kids and they neve rmouth off. |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 05:27 PM |
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What are you saying? |
gollygee |
Apr-27-05 05:29 PM |
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I disagree. |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 06:22 PM |
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Well ya know what? |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-27-05 06:33 PM |
#27 |
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So many fantastic posts on this subject. |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 06:35 PM |
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Kudos to you. I wish everyone had had such a good parent |
Jacobin |
Apr-27-05 07:01 PM |
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By the way, the only reason I behaved around my parents |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 06:26 PM |
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So what do you do when your partner "mouths off" to you today? |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:22 PM |
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i guess give him a time out since we treat him like a child |
seabeyond |
Apr-28-05 12:09 AM |
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Adults DO have consequences for their actions ... |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 09:38 AM |
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Oh yes, by all means, let's go back to the 'good old days' |
Lindacooks |
Apr-27-05 09:19 PM |
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I'm with you Mugweed. All I know is when I went to school in the 70's |
frankly_fedup2 |
Apr-27-05 10:09 PM |
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No, kids are disrespectful to others because they haven't been TAUGHT... |
DARE to HOPE |
Apr-28-05 09:44 AM |
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Yeah... I remember the sound of the belt snapping too... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-28-05 09:47 AM |
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I take away privileges and that works |
bleedingheart |
Apr-27-05 05:15 PM |
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All good methods... |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 05:29 PM |
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Redqueen you are my hero! |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 05:19 PM |
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I'm really glad you brought this up. |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 05:29 PM |
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It probably never occurred to these folks... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 05:42 PM |
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Interesting. |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 06:18 PM |
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I knew someone.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 06:36 PM |
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I'm not being a smartass. |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 06:39 PM |
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The problem with dogmatic thinking.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:16 PM |
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What's your response to this post? |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 06:40 PM |
#33 |
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I responded... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:18 PM |
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But which came first? |
quaker bill |
Apr-27-05 08:02 PM |
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Why is it ok to hit a small child and not an adult? |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:27 PM |
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Probably the same reason... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 08:36 PM |
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You didn't answer my question. The only difference is the child |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:49 PM |
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there are worse things than spanking- |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-27-05 06:21 PM |
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They are very, very bad too! |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 06:23 PM |
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I don't think you can say one is worse than the other. |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 06:24 PM |
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it depends on how they are administered- and to what extent. |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-27-05 06:51 PM |
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Bologna. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:31 PM |
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which were you subjected to as a child? |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-27-05 11:12 PM |
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I had both as well, and I would much rather have an unkind word. |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 09:34 AM |
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and i'd rather have a pat on the fanny, than continual degradation. |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-28-05 10:37 AM |
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A "pat on the fanny" is degrading ... |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 10:47 AM |
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it's becoming very apparent that you just don't get it... |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-28-05 01:18 PM |
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My point is that no child should endure "abuse." |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 04:36 PM |
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wow- what a novel position... |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-28-05 05:36 PM |
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I can see you still haven't got a point. |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 05:38 PM |
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I made my point in my response to the original poster- |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-28-05 05:51 PM |
#126 |
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My is that the best insult you can come up with? |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 07:33 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-28-05 11:58 PM |
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I always take heart in the fact that I've won the debate when people |
mzmolly |
Apr-29-05 09:47 AM |
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happy spanking? moi? yet again you seem to be mistaken- |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-29-05 11:37 AM |
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Do you condone corporal punishment for adults as well? |
mzmolly |
Apr-29-05 12:15 PM |
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as far as spanking for adults is concerned- |
LiberallyInclined |
Apr-29-05 01:05 PM |
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Agreed |
XemaSab |
Apr-27-05 07:50 PM |
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Most parents who would speak to a child in such a manner don't stop |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:33 PM |
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Yeah, so it's best to use all three when disciplining. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:29 PM |
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I can say that |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 06:25 PM |
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Pretty much says it all, doesn't it? |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 06:27 PM |
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Yep. |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 06:29 PM |
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Bless you bouncy |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 06:34 PM |
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Aw! |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 08:04 PM |
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Well said. |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 08:12 PM |
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I learned about that when I fostered/attempted to adopt |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 08:18 PM |
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One of the goals of Head Start is to encourage attachment. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 09:14 PM |
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Wow. |
missb |
Apr-27-05 08:44 PM |
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Blushing now. |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 09:00 PM |
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Thank you! Thank you, for saying that |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 06:33 PM |
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The people who |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 08:09 PM |
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and to think if you had been a student of some of the teachers |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-28-05 12:06 AM |
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That's a great anecdote.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:17 PM |
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You didn't read his post properly! |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 07:23 PM |
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Look.... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:36 PM |
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Actually, smacking on the ass is hitting. perhaps 'light' hitting but... |
sonicx |
Apr-27-05 07:39 PM |
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Well... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:46 PM |
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A position being popular doesn't mean it's right |
sonicx |
Apr-27-05 07:53 PM |
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I agree with your subject line.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 08:03 PM |
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You are using black and white language and calling others dogmatic. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:59 PM |
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Of course spanking is hitting |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 07:41 PM |
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Nice.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:51 PM |
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No framing is required |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 07:55 PM |
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If I drink a lot of water.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 08:05 PM |
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in both cases, it's the truth |
sonicx |
Apr-27-05 08:12 PM |
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Well... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 08:23 PM |
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That's why I said you have to adject your langauge in casual conversation |
sonicx |
Apr-27-05 08:30 PM |
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Is it ok for a husband to smack his wife on occassion, or |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:42 PM |
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Good question, mzmolly! |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 09:01 PM |
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Exactly. In fact, I run amok at work if my boss forgets the strap. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 09:04 PM |
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The vast majority... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 10:19 PM |
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So because the majority of Americans feel that hitting a small defenseless |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 10:31 PM |
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There was no.... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 10:36 PM |
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The vast majority of people in some countries feel that it's ok to execute |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 09:08 AM |
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All it shows |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 10:39 PM |
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You are correct, sir! |
mzmolly |
Apr-28-05 09:10 AM |
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Funny, i seem to remember his post saying... |
sonicx |
Apr-27-05 07:28 PM |
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But your defending hitting small children. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:41 PM |
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How about.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 09:48 PM |
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How about .. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 09:53 PM |
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I've made my point... |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 09:57 PM |
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Well, mzmolly |
H2O Man |
Apr-27-05 10:09 PM |
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LOL |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 10:23 PM |
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delete |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 09:50 PM |
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the truth is right there |
G_j |
Apr-27-05 07:24 PM |
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Damn straight! |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:43 PM |
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Is it ok if I spank my girlfriend? |
Jesus Saves |
Apr-27-05 06:29 PM |
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Silliness |
redqueen |
Apr-27-05 06:50 PM |
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Go ahead.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-05 07:21 PM |
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Not if you are Marv..... |
Jacobin |
Apr-27-05 07:44 PM |
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Only if she asks you too. |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:44 PM |
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I don't really think spanking is all that bad |
Merope215 |
Apr-27-05 07:37 PM |
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You were lucky though |
_TJ_ |
Apr-27-05 07:42 PM |
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I was very lucky |
Merope215 |
Apr-27-05 07:47 PM |
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there is a big difference... |
bleedingheart |
Apr-27-05 07:54 PM |
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One thing: |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-27-05 08:06 PM |
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Actually, I don't know |
Merope215 |
Apr-27-05 08:26 PM |
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But if you were learning why did you need an explaination? |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:45 PM |
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Project No Spank |
jhain |
Apr-27-05 08:17 PM |
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I can say that I have rarely spanked. |
xmas74 |
Apr-27-05 08:26 PM |
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Why should a child have to choose a form of abuse at all? |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 08:47 PM |
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We rarely spank |
cynatnite |
Apr-27-05 08:46 PM |
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What is the definition of spanking? |
cynatnite |
Apr-27-05 09:04 PM |
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To my understanding the law defines physical abuse of a child as |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-05 09:29 PM |
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I think there is a definite difference in spanking and beating |
ChaoticSilly |
Apr-27-05 10:25 PM |
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Two Points |
Nederland |
Apr-28-05 09:37 AM |
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10,000, not 5,000 |
redqueen |
Apr-28-05 10:40 AM |
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Response |
Nederland |
Apr-28-05 10:54 AM |
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Ah thanks, I hadn't noticed that. |
redqueen |
Apr-28-05 11:05 AM |
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IF YOU BEAT A SHEEP, IT DIES OR GOES CRAZY |
Notorious Bohemian |
Apr-29-05 09:58 AM |
#130 |
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