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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-24-05 05:44 PM
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81. I think it is more socio-economic prejudice
If the five year old were the daughter of a wealthy physician, whether they were white/black/hispanic or whatever, we all KNOW they wouldn't be behaving that way. It's a ridiculous PC hypothetical that goes against reality.

When I read the story in the newspaper, they didn't mention the girl's race. My initial thought, not knowing her race, was thatI don't have any problem with the handcuffs, they won't hurt her. Kids commit MURDER with alarming frequency, I don't see any reason to mollycoddle them as innocents.

The police have a program called "scared straight" where they take problem kids to visit prisons so they'll see where they're likely to wind up. Maybe by handcuffing that girl, it will shake her up enough at a young age that it will turn the course of her life for the better. The cop could have been trying to send her a message that this is where she's headed if she doesn't control herself. Cuffing her at five might spare her a prison sentence at 18.


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  -Experiment regarding the handcuffing of 5-year old entanglement  Apr-24-05 02:53 AM   #0 
  - Reminds me of the Barbie Science Fair Project  chalky   Apr-24-05 03:10 AM   #1 
  - Ugh! Handcuffing ANY 5 yr olds is merely an activity of uniformed thugs!  Is It Fascism Yet   Apr-24-05 03:29 AM   #2 
  - I wouldn't be too disturbed about it  Djinn   Apr-24-05 03:41 AM   #3 
  - I think you every right to be very very disturbed  WearyOne   Apr-24-05 04:05 AM   #4 
  - 20 years ago the teachers would have been able  Djinn   Apr-24-05 05:05 AM   #10 
     - I was discussing the actions of the cops who handcuffed the child  entanglement   Apr-24-05 09:06 AM   #21 
     - so what should the cops have done?  Djinn   Apr-24-05 09:33 AM   #25 
        - I wonder if anybody tried to actually connect & TALK to this child  librechik   Apr-24-05 10:09 AM   #35 
           - That's what I thought when I watched a longer version...  Zookeeper   Apr-24-05 06:20 PM   #83 
     - 20 years ago  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 11:19 AM   #45 
  - Bull  wakeme2008   Apr-24-05 04:08 AM   #5 
  - we were just talking about that at work  hfojvt   Apr-24-05 04:27 AM   #6 
  - Right and Florida is one of those  wakeme2008   Apr-24-05 04:49 AM   #8 
     - Are you kidding?  Pigwidgeon   Apr-24-05 05:01 AM   #9 
        - the BRAT knew to sit down the second the Police  wakeme2008   Apr-24-05 05:29 AM   #11 
           - "I told you LAST TIME"  Speed8098   Apr-24-05 05:40 AM   #12 
           - she knew to sit down when she saw the cops coming  wakeme2008   Apr-24-05 06:59 AM   #13 
           - Absolutely correct  cmd   Apr-24-05 07:13 AM   #16 
           - I can subdue a 5-year-old easily,  LWolf   Apr-24-05 09:09 AM   #22 
           - And what should the cops have done?  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 11:16 AM   # 
           - That's a lot of anger realtive to the child's "crime"  Pigwidgeon   Apr-24-05 07:07 AM   #14 
           - Tell us about your experience with teaching "difficult children."  QC   Apr-24-05 07:25 AM   #20 
              - How about mentally retarded children?  Pigwidgeon   Apr-24-05 09:32 AM   #24 
                 - get over yourself  Djinn   Apr-24-05 09:38 AM   #26 
                 - The clichs are flying fast and thick today  Pigwidgeon   Apr-24-05 10:54 AM   #38 
                    - You probably have a point.  fortyfeetunder   Apr-24-05 11:14 AM   #43 
                    - You don't work in a school, do you?  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 11:31 AM   #46 
                       - I don't work at a school, but I volunteer at one.  fortyfeetunder   Apr-24-05 12:55 PM   #51 
                          - We also don't know if the school had referred mom  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 01:18 PM   #52 
                             - Also realize we haven't heard the whole story  fortyfeetunder   Apr-24-05 01:29 PM   #54 
                                - All of these kid mistreated at school stories are like that  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 01:44 PM   #56 
                                   - Of course, your version is the bus drivers version.  merh   Apr-24-05 03:22 PM   #61 
                                   - No I heard both versions  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 04:02 PM   #67 
                                      - That is so sad.  merh   Apr-24-05 04:08 PM   #68 
                                      - Don't feel too sorry for this mom  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 04:12 PM   #70 
                                   - Another point of view I've heard --  fortyfeetunder   Apr-24-05 07:58 PM   #89 
                    - no you need to get over yourself  Djinn   Apr-24-05 10:31 PM   #90 
                 - "Why you ah a true mahtah, Miz Pig. A Christyun mahtah,"  QC   Apr-24-05 01:38 PM   #55 
           - So the cuffing was plainly PUNISHMENT and NOT preventive  kenzee13   Apr-24-05 09:53 AM   #30 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 09:59 AM   #32 
                 - I feel sick!  G_j   Apr-24-05 10:36 AM   #37 
                 - that's disgusting  alarimer   Apr-24-05 11:08 AM   #41 
                 - first you call her a BRAT in capital letters, and now she is a TERRORIST?!  genevat   Apr-24-05 11:16 AM   #44 
  - too few to conclude anything: way way too small a sample size  oscar111   Apr-24-05 04:32 AM   #7 
  - She's a child, not a BRAT  funflower   Apr-24-05 04:21 PM   #71 
  - LOL! "Bull" indeed! Do you actually know anything about...  Zookeeper   Apr-24-05 06:33 PM   #84 
  - Helen Lovejoy: "Won't someone think of the children?"  QC   Apr-24-05 07:13 AM   #15 
  - I second your response.  cmd   Apr-24-05 07:16 AM   #17 
  - Thank you.  QC   Apr-24-05 07:23 AM   #19 
  - Nobody is attacking "teachers" as an entity  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 09:58 AM   #31 
     - Get real - it is already near the end of the year  cmd   Apr-24-05 10:55 AM   #39 
        - I disagree  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 11:14 AM   #42 
           - You are still missing the problem  cmd   Apr-24-05 11:40 AM   #47 
              - I understand the problem in it's entirety,  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 11:53 AM   #48 
                 - Good for you.  cmd   Apr-24-05 01:26 PM   #53 
                    - How progressive  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 02:36 PM   #58 
                       - I didn't step down  cmd   Apr-24-05 02:59 PM   #59 
                          - During my clinical rotations  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 03:17 PM   #60 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 03:24 PM   #62 
                             - I would answer you if I thought you were serious  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 03:27 PM   #63 
                                - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 04:10 PM   #69 
                                   - And I read what you wrote and can't seem to get past the point of  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 04:43 PM   #73 
                                      - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 05:07 PM   #76 
                                         - Not true at all. You are demeaning this child by your "adjectives."  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 05:26 PM   #79 
                                            - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 05:32 PM   #80 
                                            - I agree with you.  Zookeeper   Apr-24-05 07:13 PM   #86 
                                            - Oops!  Zookeeper   Apr-24-05 07:15 PM   #87 
                             - Please spend a week in the shoes of a kindergarten teacher  cmd   Apr-24-05 03:36 PM   #64 
                                - And it is very possible  Horse with no Name   Apr-24-05 03:53 PM   #66 
                                   - I do understand what you are saying  cmd   Apr-24-05 05:08 PM   #77 
  - It seems "funny" to me  bloom   Apr-24-05 05:10 PM   #78 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 07:18 AM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 09:48 AM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-24-05 10:06 AM   #33 
  - If that little girl was the daughter of a Wealthy, WHITE  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-24-05 09:28 AM   #23 
  - don't be ridiculous  Djinn   Apr-24-05 09:42 AM   #27 
  - You didn't answer my question. If that little girl was the daughter of a  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-24-05 10:07 AM   #34 
  - no probably not  Djinn   Apr-24-05 10:25 AM   #36 
     - I didn't say my survey 'proves' anything, just  entanglement   Apr-24-05 04:45 PM   #74 
        - that's not my attitude at all  Djinn   Apr-24-05 10:44 PM   #91 
  - I acknowledge in my original post that I asked  entanglement   Apr-24-05 04:39 PM   #72 
  - I think it is more socio-economic prejudice  El Fuego   Apr-24-05 05:44 PM   #81 
     - Cuffing her at 11 or 12 might spare her a prison sentence...  Zookeeper   Apr-24-05 07:20 PM   #88 
  - Something is seriosly wrong when they have to go to this level  Godai Kyoko   Apr-24-05 09:48 AM   #28 
  - Rough discipline?  Pigwidgeon   Apr-24-05 11:05 AM   #40 
  - Pointless. They need to see the whole video to get an accurate opinion.  TryingToWarnYou   Apr-24-05 11:56 AM   #49 
  - When I heard the story, I didn't know the race of the child...  MS68   Apr-24-05 12:04 PM   #50 
  - My newbie 2 cents  Shennendoa69   Apr-24-05 06:07 PM   #82 
     - Welcome to DU, Shennendoah69!  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-24-05 07:04 PM   #85 
  - I had no idea the race of the child until I read this thread  dsc   Apr-24-05 01:45 PM   #57 
  - I knew as soon as I heard the promo for the story that she was black.  SmokingJacket   Apr-24-05 03:49 PM   #65 
  - Thanks for your input, it's sometimes surprising  entanglement   Apr-24-05 04:54 PM   #75 
     - no-one is saying it had nothing to do with racism  Djinn   Apr-24-05 10:49 PM   #93 
        - Fair enough, if that's your position n/t  entanglement   Apr-24-05 10:53 PM   #94 
  - Good stab...  Dr_eldritch   Apr-24-05 10:47 PM   #92 
  - I hope you saw this thread  proud2Blib   Apr-24-05 11:10 PM   #95 
 

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