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Wed Apr-20-05 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #70 |
| 133. Take a look at SNAP: |
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Policies have never been the issue. The issue has been, and continues to be, follow through. The scandal doesn't arise from what the Vatican says, but from waht the bishops do. The US bishops sex abuse guidelines are vague, weak and only sporadically enforced. Only a tiny minority would oppose maintining the policy, while many would like to see it substantially strengthened. http://www.snapnetwork.org/snap_statements/2005_stateme... SNAP is 'Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests' and they really know what's going on and report the truth. |
| -The Pope supports renewal of a Church law that punishes pedos. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:32 AM |
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and gays too? |
sniffa |
Apr-20-05 11:33 AM |
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ESPECIALLY Gays! |
arwalden |
Apr-20-05 03:15 PM |
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Will he banish Cardinal Law?? Or will he put a start date on the offenses? |
Guckert |
Apr-20-05 11:34 AM |
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Law was never accused of molesting a child. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:36 AM |
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Law was set to be indicted by the state of Massachusetts |
Walt Starr |
Apr-20-05 11:39 AM |
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Why wasn't he indicted, then? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:41 AM |
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Public relations in a heavily Catholic state. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 11:57 AM |
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mmmm hmmm... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:00 PM |
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Please. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 12:04 PM |
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That's insulting and untrue. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:05 PM |
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It's an observation, not a speculation. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 12:08 PM |
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It is speculation. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:11 PM |
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Give me one criticism and I will retract and apologize. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 12:14 PM |
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Aside from your posts specualting on my motives, and.... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:26 PM |
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You know what I mean. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 01:02 PM |
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No, I don't know what you mean. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 01:10 PM |
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Uhm, I just did. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 01:14 PM |
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No, you didn't. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 01:15 PM |
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Do you not want to give any criticism? |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 01:17 PM |
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Why should I? There's plenty here to go around. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 01:19 PM |
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Right. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 01:29 PM |
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You make no point. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:40 PM |
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Prove it then! |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 03:41 PM |
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Providing so-called "accurate information"... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 01:46 PM |
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I dispel ignorance on this subject. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:41 PM |
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You dispel ignorance, do you? |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 03:43 PM |
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Yes, I do. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:46 PM |
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No you don't... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 03:46 PM |
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Yes, I do. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:49 PM |
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I wanna see the pictures... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 01:26 PM |
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Good observation... |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 12:43 PM |
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Piss-poor observation. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:44 PM |
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How do you feel about his stance on gays? |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 12:45 PM |
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I disagree with it. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:46 PM |
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Why are you so quick to defend someone who calls you evil? |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 12:48 PM |
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I am not. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:50 PM |
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What is your OP about, if it is not about defending the Pope? |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 12:59 PM |
#79 |
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My O/P s about accurate information. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 01:12 PM |
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You really think we are not to assume that this thread is about |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 01:24 PM |
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I think it's pretty clear that started the thread to dispel ignorance. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:42 PM |
#111 |
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Assumptions are wonderful things... usually they are made stronger |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 03:46 PM |
#114 |
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No 'exhaustive litany of praise' from me. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:48 PM |
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Hey! Leave Cuban_Liberal's dog out of this. |
leftofthedial |
Apr-20-05 04:13 PM |
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Because he skipped the country and was immediately put up in the Vatican |
Walt Starr |
Apr-20-05 12:03 PM |
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They could have indicted him anyway |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 12:08 PM |
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WRONG. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:16 PM |
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See my response to that post below |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 12:28 PM |
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He wasn't indicted because he was moved to the Vatican. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:04 PM |
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because it was determined that religious figures weren't covered |
dsc |
Apr-20-05 04:34 PM |
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You can certainly indict in absentia |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 12:02 PM |
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Bingo. n/t |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:06 PM |
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Nope. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:16 PM |
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Oh, so the problem was also weak STATE laws? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:27 PM |
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wrong read there |
Caution |
Apr-20-05 03:40 PM |
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I think Law should have been stripped of ANY authority. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:45 PM |
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I tried to be pretty careful in my response not to speculate |
Caution |
Apr-20-05 04:01 PM |
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I know you did, and I apologize for snapping at you. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 04:09 PM |
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Apology accepted |
Caution |
Apr-20-05 04:30 PM |
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It's difficult to indict these people. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:12 PM |
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But that has nothing to do with him being in the Vatican |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 12:26 PM |
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Will he make it public when one is punished or will he still |
Spazito |
Apr-20-05 11:35 AM |
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How? By moving them to parishes with really bad weather? |
vi5 |
Apr-20-05 11:35 AM |
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Exactly |
ComerPerro |
Apr-20-05 11:37 AM |
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Do you even know what current policy IS? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:37 AM |
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Ha ha ha ha ha |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-20-05 12:13 PM |
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You know it's not being done? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:33 PM |
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OK, I'll play this game |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-20-05 12:53 PM |
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In L.A. they are playing that game, too |
tishaLA |
Apr-20-05 03:14 PM |
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Gee, Cuban_Liberal |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-20-05 03:27 PM |
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It's being done at my diocese as we speak |
shrike |
Apr-21-05 09:11 AM |
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Take a look at SNAP: |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 04:56 PM |
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If that wasn't so true, it would be very funny. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 04:53 PM |
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That isn't thing to do. Pedophile priests should be turned over |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 11:35 AM |
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They ARE turned over to the civil authorities. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:38 AM |
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So did we all imagine these priests being relocated? |
vi5 |
Apr-20-05 11:44 AM |
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The policy has been in effect for several years. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:47 AM |
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My point is that the church leadership bears a lot of blame... |
vi5 |
Apr-20-05 11:54 AM |
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It's being done, is my point. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:56 AM |
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It sounds more like you'd forgive ANYTHING they might do. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 12:00 PM |
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Does it, now? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:01 PM |
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You're most welcome! |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 12:05 PM |
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what's going on here? |
Rich Hunt |
Apr-20-05 03:27 PM |
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I suppose it is an inquisition. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 03:31 PM |
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Because it's Gods will. |
Guckert |
Apr-20-05 03:10 PM |
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Either God's or a zealot's. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 03:30 PM |
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Of course they can... |
vi5 |
Apr-20-05 12:01 PM |
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Yes, and he impetus for domestic-battery laws was... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:04 PM |
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O.K. then look at it this way.... |
vi5 |
Apr-20-05 12:10 PM |
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No, the most important thing is: Is the change being implemented? |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 04:59 PM |
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Who investigates... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:02 PM |
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Oh please. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 05:05 PM |
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The Boy Scouts doesn't? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:08 PM |
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Once again, you're setting up straw men. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 05:11 PM |
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No, I'm not out of arguments. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:12 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-20-05 05:14 PM |
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Except that he isn't covering it up. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:16 PM |
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Oh yeah? Show me a link. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 11:55 AM |
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Here's your link. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:58 AM |
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Not good enough. Those 'audits' are bogus. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:08 PM |
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That was fast. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:12 PM |
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The information is out there. Those 'audits' provided by the church are |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 12:20 PM |
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"I didn't need to read all the information" |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:28 PM |
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Oh, don't be so smug. |
Lindacooks |
Apr-20-05 04:50 PM |
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Wow. Hes against pedophiles. What a bold, courageous stance |
ComerPerro |
Apr-20-05 11:36 AM |
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how will Papa Ratzi punish them ? |
WearyOne |
Apr-20-05 11:37 AM |
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Will he also punish priests who believe in Liberation Theology? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-20-05 11:42 AM |
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BS |
catastrophicsuccess |
Apr-20-05 11:42 AM |
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It's not 'BS'; he IS supporting renewal of the law. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:47 AM |
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Good |
Kathryn7 |
Apr-20-05 11:49 AM |
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So when is he sending law |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 11:52 AM |
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Law never molested anyone. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 11:53 AM |
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He protected those that did, and he knew it. |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 12:04 PM |
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Unfortunately, the Church no longer maintains dungeons. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:08 PM |
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If promotion is a punishment, |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-20-05 12:16 PM |
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Pictures of said "dungeons" below. |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 12:39 PM |
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Oh please. This is punishment? |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 12:32 PM |
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Of ALL your weak retorts on this thread, that is your weakest -- no, |
Eloriel |
Apr-20-05 08:12 PM |
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Glad you enjoyed it. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 08:13 PM |
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You do have a way with words, Eloriel. |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 10:52 PM |
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If he had been a school principal that knew, and shuffled |
Lars39 |
Apr-20-05 01:06 PM |
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SNAP statement on this subject. |
greatauntoftriplets |
Apr-20-05 11:55 AM |
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Cool |
Mandate My Ass |
Apr-20-05 11:55 AM |
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What does the law actually do? |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 11:57 AM |
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The law... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:02 PM |
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Well, we don't burn anyone at the stake anymore |
Zynx |
Apr-20-05 12:03 PM |
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Yes. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:07 PM |
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WTF is this? |
CAMANY |
Apr-20-05 12:09 PM |
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That IS curent Church policy and practice. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 12:13 PM |
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Oh yea it must be |
CAMANY |
Apr-20-05 01:14 PM |
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Is IS current policy. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 01:16 PM |
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Well? |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 03:16 PM |
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Can you give me the name of the cases where the Church called the police? |
Solly Mack |
Apr-20-05 01:39 PM |
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Hiya Solly! |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-20-05 02:52 PM |
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Hey You! |
Solly Mack |
Apr-20-05 02:57 PM |
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Gee Solly, nice try. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 03:51 PM |
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But some priest have been charged, no? |
Solly Mack |
Apr-20-05 03:58 PM |
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Until someone is charged, how do you prove it? |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 04:11 PM |
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But some have been charged, no? |
Solly Mack |
Apr-20-05 04:22 PM |
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I'm sure they have been. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 04:26 PM |
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It's not gotcha, CL....it's allowing for the possibility that people are |
Solly Mack |
Apr-20-05 04:39 PM |
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*I'm* concerned too, Solly. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 04:50 PM |
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The "nothing will ever be good enough mindset?" |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 05:24 PM |
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We're discussing child abuse. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:26 PM |
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Uh... huh... and we're discussing the Pope. |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 05:33 PM |
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Since I wrote the opening post, ... |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:35 PM |
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Well, good. I thought you had forgotten. |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 05:36 PM |
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Pretty clear I hadn't. |
Cuban_Liberal |
Apr-20-05 05:37 PM |
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Um... ok, this has kind of degenerated into some puerile quest for the |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 05:42 PM |
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Will he stop the Vatican's attempt to stop court cases |
Spazito |
Apr-20-05 12:14 PM |
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Isn't that special... Wonder if he will also assume that all gay priests |
Misunderestimator |
Apr-20-05 12:17 PM |
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Big Fucking Deal. |
RetroLounge |
Apr-20-05 12:18 PM |
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That's what they said about Thurmond when he was 78 :) |
Goblinmonger |
Apr-21-05 08:41 AM |
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Ratzinger isn't going to pussy foot with issues. |
Tinoire |
Apr-20-05 01:45 PM |
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... and he opposed the WAR TOO!! Whoo-hoo!! |
arwalden |
Apr-20-05 03:19 PM |
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But....but....why did he send a memo out trashing Kerry right before the |
Zorra |
Apr-20-05 06:05 PM |
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Consistency |
Mondon |
Apr-20-05 06:21 PM |
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The vicious responses to this post |
Mondon |
Apr-20-05 06:20 PM |
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There it is! Poor, POOR persecuted Christians!! |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-20-05 07:11 PM |
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I'm not crying persecution |
Mondon |
Apr-20-05 07:41 PM |
#153 |
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If that's what you're saying, then say it correctly the FIRST time, |
Eloriel |
Apr-20-05 08:27 PM |
#156 |
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I did. |
Mondon |
Apr-20-05 08:32 PM |
#157 |
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