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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:15 PM
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35. They are not stupid
Sex Crimes Cover-Up By Vatican?

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 6, 2003
Vatican Bombshell
SECRET VATICAN DOCUMENT

CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales has uncovered a church document kept secret for 40 years.

The confidential Vatican document, obtained by CBS News, lays out a church policy that calls for absolute secrecy when it comes to sexual abuse by priests - anyone who speaks out could be thrown out of the church.

The policy was written in 1962 by Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani.

The document, once "stored in the secret archives" of the Vatican, focuses on crimes initiated as part of the confessional relationship and what it calls the "worst crime": sexual assault committed by a priest" ....Bishops are instructed to pursue these cases "in the most secretive way...restrained by a perpetual silence...and everyone {including the alleged victim) ...is to observe the strictest secret, which is commonly regarded as a secret of the Holy Office...under the penalty of excommunication."

Larry Drivon, a lawyer who represents alleged victims, said, This document is significant because it's a blueprint for deception.

Drivon said this proves ... that the church engaged in a crime racketeering.

According to church records, the document was a bedrock of Catholic sex abuse policy until America's bishops met last summer and drafted new policies to address the crisis in the church.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/06/eveningnews/m...
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  -Vatican Slaps Victims Of Pedophile Priests In Face:Cardinal Law Speaking cryingshame  Apr-07-05 04:14 PM   #0 
  - This sends a very wrong message...  pelagius   Apr-07-05 04:17 PM   #1 
  - I Suggest American Catholics Find A Way To Let Rome Know  cryingshame   Apr-07-05 04:19 PM   #3 
  - Withold all tithes for the next six months  Walt Starr   Apr-07-05 04:25 PM   #6 
  - A brilliant idea.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-07-05 10:05 PM   #52 
  - Don't know if some withheld info from the Pope, but Rome knows  hue   Apr-07-05 08:05 PM   #41 
     - Go to www.bishopaccountability.org  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 09:09 PM   #47 
  - Apparently it's the message they want to send.  SharonAnn   Apr-07-05 09:44 PM   #49 
  - This sends a very wrong message...  pelagius   Apr-07-05 04:17 PM   #2 
  - Oh Jesus, Mary and Joseph.  Kerrytravelers   Apr-07-05 04:20 PM   #4 
  - Gloves are off now  Walt Starr   Apr-07-05 04:24 PM   #5 
  - That's horrendous  Dookus   Apr-07-05 04:27 PM   #7 
  - They "get it" just fine. They just don't give a damn what you think  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 04:34 PM   #11 
     - well I have to believe  Dookus   Apr-07-05 05:05 PM   #14 
        - They intentionally hid hideous criminal behavior on the part of priests  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 05:21 PM   #17 
        - Where the hell did I say anybody was innocent?  Dookus   Apr-07-05 06:02 PM   #22 
           - Hopefully It'll Do To Vatican What Schiavo Did To The Christo-Freaks  cryingshame   Apr-07-05 06:04 PM   #23 
           - As I read your post it appeared to imply innocence but let's substitute  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 06:26 PM   #26 
              - I've made it clear  Dookus   Apr-07-05 06:27 PM   #27 
                 - Where we differ Dookus, is that I know very well and from both  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 06:39 PM   #30 
                    - Addendum, There Was A Pedophile Priest Scandal In Ireland Too  cryingshame   Apr-07-05 06:44 PM   #31 
                       - Yup.  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 06:48 PM   #32 
                       - I think there was one in Austria also.  JDPriestly   Apr-07-05 10:15 PM   #54 
        - I agree Dookus  Leilani   Apr-07-05 06:20 PM   #24 
           - They are not stupid  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 07:15 PM   #35 
           - WOW!  JVS   Apr-07-05 07:18 PM   #36 
           - I agree that the official policy of the church was to cover up  Leilani   Apr-07-05 08:38 PM   #46 
              - Actually they always knew and they did not care  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 09:16 PM   #48 
                 - Aaron Brown on CNN Newsnight just did a good story  Leilani   Apr-07-05 09:51 PM   #50 
                    - The Dallas news did a great expose on priests sent out of the country  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 10:02 PM   #51 
           - The question is  sharman   Apr-07-05 10:18 PM   #55 
  - That is just sick....  GumboYaYa   Apr-07-05 04:28 PM   #8 
  - US catholics don't even need to "secede from Rome"  SnowGoose   Apr-07-05 04:29 PM   #9 
  - Permanently  Tux   Apr-07-05 05:03 PM   #13 
  - Instead of not giving anything  kweerwolf   Apr-07-05 07:13 PM   #34 
  - Catholics one and all- hear ye'! , hear ye'!  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 04:32 PM   #10 
  - You are SO TRUE! n/t  hue   Apr-07-05 08:07 PM   #42 
  - gives the Peter Principle (kicking imcompetents upstairs) a whole new and  sundancekid   Apr-07-05 04:47 PM   #12 
  - Yes  Dookus   Apr-07-05 05:05 PM   #15 
  - Second your remark!  JDPriestly   Apr-07-05 10:20 PM   #56 
  - I'd No Idea He Was Given A Parish. I Thought He Was Just Given  cryingshame   Apr-07-05 05:07 PM   #16 
     - Here's his "church" (it's actually a basilica)  Dookus   Apr-07-05 05:24 PM   #18 
     - Hey I remember that place from intro to medieval Art!  JVS   Apr-07-05 05:33 PM   #19 
     - Yes that too n/t  hue   Apr-07-05 08:08 PM   #43 
  - OMG....I'm speechless. Just speechless.  in_cog_ni_to   Apr-07-05 05:35 PM   #20 
  - Hope peeps wake up & hear the birdies, they do it all the time! nt  hue   Apr-07-05 08:10 PM   #44 
  - They Should Send a REAL Message and Elect Him Pontiff  Crisco   Apr-07-05 05:35 PM   #21 
  - This is horrifying  Kathy in Cambridge   Apr-07-05 06:22 PM   #25 
  - I had no idea, I thought when he resigned that he was done,  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Apr-07-05 06:33 PM   #28 
  - This really reveals alot about JOHN Paul and Rome!!!  lovuian   Apr-07-05 06:35 PM   #29 
  - Please substitute Vatican for Rome  Leilani   Apr-07-05 10:12 PM   #53 
  - You know  Johonny   Apr-07-05 06:57 PM   #33 
  - Sure. And while we're at it, let's invite Charley Manson too  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 07:20 PM   #37 
     - Well  Johonny   Apr-07-05 07:38 PM   #39 
        - And now for something completely serious/ I suggest you read it all  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 08:21 PM   #45 
        - It's a game they can't win, at least not in America.  Bunny   Apr-08-05 09:05 AM   #61 
           - One Would Think That As LA Grows Economically, The Church Would  cryingshame   Apr-08-05 09:25 AM   #62 
        - LAw is a criminal who should be in a U.S. prison!  Walt Starr   Apr-08-05 06:30 AM   #57 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-07-05 07:29 PM   #38 
  - LOL!! Too funny  MichiganVote   Apr-07-05 08:04 PM   #40 
     - withhold all funds...the church is nothing but big business...  Gin   Apr-08-05 06:32 AM   #58 
        - Since, Like The Neo-Cons, The Vatican Cares Primarily About Money  cryingshame   Apr-08-05 08:03 AM   #59 
  - the only thing they listen to is $$$$$  unhappycamper   Apr-08-05 08:17 AM   #60 
  - Pretty disgusting.  RiDuvessa   Apr-08-05 09:31 AM   #63 
 

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