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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #46
49. Not Even About Iraq
Once again the post had nothing to do with Iraq. You keep wanting to go off course and not debate the issue. The issue is that Bush uses the idea of a crisis to suspend or weaken the right of Habeas Corpus. You cannot argue that Lincoln weakening or suspending Habeas Corpus because he believed there was a crisis and then say that Bush cannot do the same thing. It is wrong for Bush to do it now and it was wrong for Lincoln to do it then.
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  -The Party of Lincoln and Reagan erpowers  Apr-07-05 12:42 PM   #0 
  - Good post.  Goldmund   Apr-07-05 12:47 PM   #1 
  - I agree. Some folks seem to pine for the good ol' days when  Zorra   Apr-07-05 01:02 PM   #2 
  - Wrong on the Federalists as well  IrateCitizen   Apr-07-05 01:07 PM   #5 
     - By "ancestor" of the republican party, I am referring to an ideological  Zorra   Apr-07-05 02:10 PM   #11 
  - This post is pure rubbish, and DU at its most reactionary and partisan.  IrateCitizen   Apr-07-05 01:03 PM   #3 
  - Insightful post  Psephos   Apr-07-05 01:18 PM   #8 
  - Thanks. It's a shame that politics is simply a "team sport" to some...  IrateCitizen   Apr-07-05 01:20 PM   #10 
  - What Wild Pronouncements  erpowers   Apr-07-05 03:06 PM   #23 
     - This post simply proves your ignorance on this.  IrateCitizen   Apr-07-05 03:11 PM   #24 
        - That is Stupid  erpowers   Apr-07-05 04:01 PM   #30 
        - Then by your definition every president we have ever had prior to  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 04:23 PM   #35 
           - Context Nothing  erpowers   Apr-07-05 04:45 PM   #40 
           - DId you only read half the book?  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 11:10 PM   #48 
           - Well? Every president WAS a white supremacist...  JackRiddler   Apr-08-05 10:35 PM   #55 
              - I'm sure the slaves would have liked the "hey, slavery will end eventually  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-08-05 11:38 PM   #57 
                 - That's not really the point.  JackRiddler   Apr-09-05 12:18 PM   #58 
                    - The Civil War was all about slavery. There would be no war  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-10-05 02:47 PM   #60 
        - In That Case  erpowers   Apr-07-05 05:51 PM   #43 
  - Beautiful post.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 02:16 PM   #13 
  - By the Standards of His Own Time  erpowers   Apr-07-05 03:20 PM   #25 
  - Please...  manic expression   Apr-07-05 06:23 PM   #45 
  - It's easy to rag on Lincoln while viewing him through...  Cooley Hurd   Apr-07-05 01:05 PM   #4 
  - Emancipation Proclamation  erpowers   Apr-07-05 02:56 PM   #21 
     - Limited view.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 03:01 PM   #22 
     - I agree totally.  Tomee450   Apr-07-05 03:58 PM   #29 
     - Lincoln's concern was that the Border States: Missouri, Kentucky,  KrazyKat   Apr-08-05 03:22 PM   #52 
  - The party of FDR and Wallace?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-07-05 01:09 PM   #6 
  - Or what about the party of Woodrow Wilson, a racist of the highest order?  IrateCitizen   Apr-07-05 01:18 PM   #9 
  - Beyond the Point  erpowers   Apr-07-05 03:35 PM   #27 
  - Abraham Lincoln  Tomee450   Apr-07-05 04:04 PM   #31 
  - They Were Wrong  erpowers   Apr-07-05 03:27 PM   #26 
  - Some true quotes from Lincoln - read these and CRY YOUR FACE OFF:  HypnoToad   Apr-07-05 01:12 PM   #7 
  - Cry In My Face My Rear End  erpowers   Apr-07-05 02:45 PM   #17 
     - You are so anachronistic!  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 02:51 PM   #19 
        - Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  erpowers   Apr-07-05 03:43 PM   #28 
           - Well, if he had told the truth, he never would have been elected and  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 04:18 PM   #33 
           - I gave you some Lincoln quotes. Now it's your turn to prove your point.  HypnoToad   Apr-09-05 12:37 PM   #59 
  - This is so...misguided. So anachronistic.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 02:15 PM   #12 
  - Then  erpowers   Apr-07-05 02:48 PM   #18 
  - No...we are not facing mutiny now.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 02:52 PM   #20 
  - Before Iraq  erpowers   Apr-07-05 04:15 PM   #32 
     - He suspended Habeus Corpus AFTER the South became rebellious  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 04:20 PM   #34 
        - Not about Iraq  erpowers   Apr-07-05 04:31 PM   #36 
           - Difference: Bush has no proof.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 04:34 PM   #37 
              - Oh, also Section 9 of the Constitution says it may be suspended for  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 04:41 PM   #38 
              - Proof  erpowers   Apr-07-05 05:38 PM   #42 
              - And they were all from Iraq right? Oh wait...  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 11:08 PM   #46 
                 - Not Even About Iraq  erpowers   Apr-08-05 11:30 AM   #49 
                    - He didn't "believe there was a crisis" half the freaking country seceded  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-08-05 02:46 PM   #51 
              - Strongly disagree  Tomee450   Apr-10-05 06:57 PM   #61 
  - People are just  Tomee450   Apr-07-05 04:49 PM   #41 
  - Sorry, Lincoln was no  Tomee450   Apr-07-05 04:43 PM   #39 
     - Lerone Bennett isn't very well respected for his work.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-08-05 11:36 PM   #56 
  - Good Points  Terran1212   Apr-07-05 02:21 PM   #14 
  - Yes, Lincoln was truely a tyrant. Invaded the South and all.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 02:22 PM   #15 
     - Lincoln's war  Johonny   Apr-07-05 06:07 PM   #44 
        - Actually he held a council in which he offered to end the war,  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-07-05 11:09 PM   #47 
  - As others have already observed, this post is bristling with ignorance.  American Tragedy   Apr-07-05 02:42 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-08-05 12:00 PM   #50 
  - Who exactly has cited Reagan as an example of a good Republican  American Tragedy   Apr-08-05 03:31 PM   #53 
     - Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard anyone praise Reagan on DU.  SemiCharmedQuark   Apr-08-05 03:36 PM   #54 

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