| 161. Excellent post. I hope everybody in this debate reads it.... |
| -There IS no flood of Mexican immigrants across the border. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:43 PM |
#0 |
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there are alot here doing labor after the hurricanes |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 07:47 PM |
#1 |
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Oh well, that cinches it then, they must be illegals. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:49 PM |
#2 |
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i asked one |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 07:52 PM |
#5 |
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Oh well then, my mistake...I guess that proves a flood. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:53 PM |
#7 |
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i speak a little |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 08:07 PM |
#23 |
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Do you not see the problem here, known as |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 09:56 PM |
#106 |
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i have been trying to get acess to this company |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#113 |
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Okay--they SNEAK across the border |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#41 |
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i saw a guy with a large roll of cash |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 08:30 PM |
#46 |
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Totally doesn't make sense |
ultraist |
Apr-06-05 08:35 PM |
#53 |
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Reminds me |
Tomee450 |
Apr-06-05 10:02 PM |
#110 |
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I thought they were the welfare queens Reagan tried to |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:12 PM |
#120 |
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True, |
Tomee450 |
Apr-07-05 12:45 AM |
#155 |
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Also remember that , part of the time, the motive is harassment |
tubbacheez |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#11 |
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They have the same model of truck? Omigod, that proves it! |
Redstone |
Apr-06-05 07:51 PM |
#3 |
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There are lots of areas of Texas |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-06-05 08:22 PM |
#39 |
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The sense of "invasion" is usually the perceiver's own fault. |
tubbacheez |
Apr-06-05 07:52 PM |
#4 |
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Sorry, but we are being overrun. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 07:53 PM |
#6 |
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Why don't you go ahead and post the numbers? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:54 PM |
#8 |
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here: |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#10 |
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Notice it says "combined" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:00 PM |
#14 |
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okay Santa Claus. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:02 PM |
#17 |
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Sure, here you go: |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:05 PM |
#21 |
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Okay... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:10 PM |
#28 |
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The Southern Law Poverty Center is biased? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:12 PM |
#30 |
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I didn't say they were. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:16 PM |
#32 |
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It's not. No more than it was flooded by the Chinese, the Irish or the |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:18 PM |
#33 |
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or the Greeks. |
jdj |
Apr-06-05 10:50 PM |
#141 |
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Bullshit! |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#56 |
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Man.... |
proud_dem |
Apr-07-05 09:58 AM |
#190 |
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SPLC is a great source. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:43 PM |
#65 |
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Then you post some good links Placebo buddy |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#43 |
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FAIR gets money from the Pioneer Fund, which sponsors eugenics studies |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:31 PM |
#48 |
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Why do some people... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
# |
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No, you were looking SPECIFICALLY to point to MExicans as the threat |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:37 PM |
#57 |
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You posted a newspaper article |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:38 PM |
#58 |
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The third isn't just about racists, |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 08:50 AM |
#183 |
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In terms of making a well-reasoned case |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:09 PM |
#26 |
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His own source has numbers that are less than 1% of the population. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:11 PM |
#29 |
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How is 10.3 million people, 1% of the population? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:19 PM |
#34 |
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Did you read your own artiicle? That is ALL illegals, not just Mexicans |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:20 PM |
#37 |
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Well guess where they're primarily coming from? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:24 PM |
#40 |
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The number if illegals from MEXICO is HALF that. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#44 |
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The largest immigrant groups in the Northeast come from: |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#70 |
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There are also |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 09:01 PM |
#81 |
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What the hell does that mean? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:58 PM |
#79 |
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In the Northeast in the 1970s, most of the illegals were from Ireland |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 10:40 PM |
#137 |
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That was also during the peak days of the IRA |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 09:04 AM |
#187 |
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Sure. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:22 PM |
#38 |
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Then why are both borders not watched? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:30 PM |
#47 |
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I agree. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:38 PM |
#59 |
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Then I don't think we disagree. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:41 PM |
#62 |
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I agree |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:55 PM |
#74 |
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Good lord, man! |
dpibel |
Apr-06-05 09:36 PM |
#101 |
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There's a rational discussion to be had here |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:36 AM |
#158 |
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With all due respect |
dpibel |
Apr-07-05 02:50 AM |
#165 |
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The OP says there is no flood |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 02:55 AM |
#166 |
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My family lives and has lived in Harlingen TX for decades |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:03 AM |
#175 |
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I worked with illegals a lot back when it wasn't illegal to |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#115 |
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It is combining the 3 jurisdictions of the DC metropolitian area. |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 08:46 AM |
#182 |
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5.9 million are Mexican |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:29 PM |
#45 |
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That's still a goddamn lot of people |
theboss |
Apr-06-05 10:00 PM |
#108 |
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A goddam lot of people!? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:29 PM |
#131 |
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It's rather odd |
Tomee450 |
Apr-06-05 10:11 PM |
#119 |
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Interesting. |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:30 PM |
#133 |
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11,000,000? Heck, that's only a little more than the combined population |
Zorra |
Apr-07-05 12:17 AM |
#153 |
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The person per square mile in those states is 1-2. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:43 AM |
#181 |
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Actually, I'll post them for you. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:58 PM |
#12 |
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Why did you post your own data... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:01 PM |
#16 |
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You notice illegal immigration becomes a talking point when the economy is |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:04 PM |
# |
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Exactly. It always ALWAYS comes up after a recession. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:06 PM |
#22 |
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I respect your right to believe what you want. |
WillowTree |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#9 |
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Post the numbers. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:59 PM |
#13 |
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Agreed. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#18 |
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Your own article said gave numbers making them about 1% of the population |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#24 |
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Whatever Placebo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#50 |
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81% of illegal immigrants... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:41 PM |
#63 |
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Where'd you get that from? Not from the article you cited earlier |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:43 PM |
#64 |
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So which article gives false information? This uncited one? Or the other |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:48 PM |
#67 |
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So your problem is with Spanish speaking people? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:05 PM |
#84 |
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They are not distributed equally across the country |
theboss |
Apr-06-05 10:05 PM |
#112 |
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Then I want to see a break down of cities |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:52 PM |
#142 |
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Maybe these people just really like the ones smuggled in for sex trade! |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 03:50 AM |
#167 |
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Posters have used the Center for Immigration Studies, FAIR, |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:01 PM |
#15 |
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You are WAAAAYYY wrong poster! Border looks like a colony of ants. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#19 |
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Proof? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#25 |
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A colony of ants! Ha ha! They're uninvited pests...parasites. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:10 PM |
#27 |
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I guess I'm being overly sensitive about this issue |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:20 PM |
#36 |
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In 100 years, people will look back at this and compare it to NINA |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#42 |
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Worries me cause of what'll happen when they find out deportation... |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 06:30 AM |
#173 |
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What racism? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#51 |
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You haven't seen the other threads |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#54 |
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Late to the party Placebo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:39 PM |
#60 |
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I bet he saw the other threads |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#73 |
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Personally I'm sick of it |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:01 PM |
#82 |
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What racism? |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 10:25 PM |
#128 |
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Well, of course he's legal |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 10:44 PM |
#139 |
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Are you trying to tell me something? LOL |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 11:04 PM |
#144 |
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Me too |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#52 |
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Why is FAIR involved in state isses? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:40 PM |
#61 |
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We have been asking the same question since this came out a year or so ago |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#69 |
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numbers are posted above in previous post and these are only estimated |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 10:28 PM |
#130 |
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That is funny |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:45 PM |
#66 |
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Miniscule Men LOL |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:59 PM |
#80 |
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Let's see |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:41 AM |
#159 |
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My family lives in....TX! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:08 AM |
#176 |
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I recommend a book for you |
fishnfla |
Apr-06-05 08:04 PM |
#20 |
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INS estimates 7 million illegal aliens in the U.S. in 2000 |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:15 PM |
#31 |
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I keep reading this over and over again and yes I see your |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#49 |
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You propose an explanation, but offer nothing to back it up |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#68 |
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Page two of the report from the highly credible source you provided |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 09:42 PM |
#104 |
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Well, Yes... |
Milspec |
Apr-06-05 09:21 PM |
#94 |
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What would you consider a flood? |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:36 PM |
#102 |
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Exactly. |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 08:19 PM |
#35 |
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Good point |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#55 |
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Most people of Hispanic origin are NOT illegal aliens |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:56 PM |
#75 |
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100,000 in a country of 290 million is hardly an invasion. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#78 |
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Mexico, on the other hand, is quite different from the others. |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:03 PM |
#83 |
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Compared to the national population |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:07 PM |
#86 |
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Well, based upon the conservative estimates of the INS, 3% of those |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:14 PM |
#90 |
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And the Census Bureau disagrees. Also, where does it say that that |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:17 PM |
#92 |
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I call it conservative because PEW Research says 10.5 million |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:25 PM |
#98 |
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No, it says 10.5 million TOTAL, not Mexicans. It's 5.9 Mil. Mexicans |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:42 PM |
#105 |
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Right, Pew says 10.5 million total, INS says 7 million total |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:19 AM |
#178 |
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3% of the population are illegal aliens |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:23 PM |
#96 |
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Your premise is flawed. Most illegals are on overstayed visas, not |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:11 PM |
#88 |
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Read the link in post #31. You're wrong. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:12 PM |
#89 |
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Ok, where does it say how many come over the border daily? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:15 PM |
#91 |
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Do the math |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:22 PM |
#95 |
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Ok...but that still doesn't take into account that most are overstays. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:24 PM |
#97 |
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HAve you got a link to "most are overstays"? n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:25 PM |
#99 |
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Sure. Take the quiz. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:41 PM |
#103 |
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Took the quiz. 40% of illegal aliens enter from the Southern border |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:16 AM |
#177 |
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No...350,000 illegals per year and take 40 percent of that. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:41 AM |
#180 |
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NO NO NO NO NO, that's NET, after those who were overstaying |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:59 AM |
#185 |
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No, link 31 links to a site that says there is NO way to tell them apart. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 09:01 AM |
#186 |
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Read the entire document. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 10:18 AM |
#191 |
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Hey, quit bringing facts into the argument! |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-05 09:08 AM |
#188 |
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Also, turn to page 12 of that document linked in post #31 |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:33 PM |
#100 |
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Your article says the new method makes it impossible to distinguish |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:19 PM |
#93 |
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In Boston, Dominicans and Salvadorans comprise the majority of Latino |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#77 |
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One of my good friends at work |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 09:07 PM |
#85 |
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evidence? |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#71 |
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Uh...yeah. All over this thread. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#72 |
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Nice try |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 10:01 PM |
#109 |
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Ok, since reading through the posts is so difficult, here are some links |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:07 PM |
#116 |
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thanks for the links |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:09 PM |
#145 |
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Like everyone else, you didn't read carefully. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 12:16 AM |
#152 |
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Obviously |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 12:07 PM |
#196 |
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Again, we read the same thing |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:51 AM |
#170 |
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Thank you |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 12:04 PM |
#194 |
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And if you need some more evidence, here are some DU threads on the topic: |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 09:09 PM |
#87 |
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DU is a wonderful place |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 10:07 PM |
#117 |
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Did you even read the threads? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 10:12 PM |
#121 |
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I did read |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:12 PM |
#146 |
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It is a mob scene. People posting RW links and arging that |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:13 PM |
#122 |
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I've also seen |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:15 PM |
#147 |
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No, nobody said that illegals crossing is a good thing. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 12:18 AM |
#154 |
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sorry |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 11:57 AM |
#192 |
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No evidence?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:20 PM |
#125 |
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Wow that's a lot of exclamation points |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:18 PM |
#149 |
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Of course those of us who have been the victims of racial |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:26 PM |
#129 |
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A lot of opinion |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:21 PM |
#150 |
| -
EVIDENCE!!! |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 11:34 PM |
#151 |
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What is this crap? |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 11:59 AM |
#193 |
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.... |
Cleita |
Apr-07-05 12:07 PM |
#195 |
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What a Great Headline n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#76 |
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There is no flood |
martymar64 |
Apr-06-05 09:59 PM |
#107 |
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Bwahahaha! Excellent Post! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:04 PM |
#111 |
| -
As an Anglo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:22 PM |
#126 |
| -
Exactly |
Tomee450 |
Apr-07-05 12:56 AM |
#157 |
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It's cause all they were taught was to remember the Alamo! |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 04:13 AM |
#168 |
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I have posted this before. This is my response. I am upset with |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#114 |
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Mind your own business? |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:09 PM |
#118 |
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I don't know. Mind your own business? Sometimes, I wish it were |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:19 PM |
#124 |
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Okay, I was raised a Catholic and Sister said to treat others |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:30 PM |
#132 |
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And so I remain silent, knowing what wrong is being done. This really |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:38 PM |
#136 |
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Why is this your problem? |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:52 PM |
#143 |
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the immigrants I know would say to stay out of it. (legal and illegal) |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:39 AM |
#163 |
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There needs to be a Mexican labor strike |
donheld |
Apr-06-05 10:16 PM |
#123 |
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In my previous life... |
FormerOstrich |
Apr-06-05 10:24 PM |
#127 |
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Nice post...... |
tyedyeto |
Apr-06-05 10:35 PM |
#135 |
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Great post |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:47 PM |
#140 |
| -
Thank you.. |
FormerOstrich |
Apr-06-05 11:17 PM |
#148 |
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Thanks |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:53 AM |
#171 |
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Excellent post. I hope everybody in this debate reads it.... |
cire4 |
Apr-07-05 01:50 AM |
#161 |
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you are my hero for posting this. |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:44 AM |
#164 |
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I say let 'em come |
nguoihue |
Apr-06-05 10:31 PM |
#134 |
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Really interesting article |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:42 PM |
#138 |
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Even one illegal alien is too many. |
Placebo |
Apr-07-05 12:52 AM |
#156 |
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A bit of an insult to legal aliens as well |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:47 AM |
#160 |
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It's not an evil thought |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:45 AM |
#169 |
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yeah, pretty interesting |
barb162 |
Apr-07-05 12:28 PM |
#198 |
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I agree with you. |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:09 AM |
#162 |
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just wondering |
allhislife |
Apr-07-05 06:11 AM |
#172 |
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You need a minimum number of posts to other threads first. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-07-05 07:53 AM |
#174 |
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I guess the fences and border patrols are for jack rabbits? |
Snivi Yllom |
Apr-07-05 08:19 AM |
#179 |
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Did you read the thread? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-07-05 08:55 AM |
#184 |
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Parts of it are funny. According to one poster, I'm |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-07-05 09:33 AM |
#189 |
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It's a deluge |
barb162 |
Apr-07-05 12:19 PM |
#197 |
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It's a deluge all right. Of propaganda. Hiding thread. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-07-05 12:31 PM |
#199 |
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Locking by request of author |
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