| 32. I didn't say they were. |
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Man, I know you've got some serious passion concerning your personal emotion beliefs in regards to this issue, but let them go, face the facts, our southern border is being flooded by illegal aliens.
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| -There IS no flood of Mexican immigrants across the border. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:43 PM |
#0 |
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there are alot here doing labor after the hurricanes |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 07:47 PM |
#1 |
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Oh well, that cinches it then, they must be illegals. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:49 PM |
#2 |
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i asked one |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 07:52 PM |
#5 |
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Oh well then, my mistake...I guess that proves a flood. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:53 PM |
#7 |
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i speak a little |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 08:07 PM |
#23 |
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Do you not see the problem here, known as |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 09:56 PM |
#106 |
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i have been trying to get acess to this company |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#113 |
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Okay--they SNEAK across the border |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#41 |
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i saw a guy with a large roll of cash |
7th_Sephiroth |
Apr-06-05 08:30 PM |
#46 |
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Totally doesn't make sense |
ultraist |
Apr-06-05 08:35 PM |
#53 |
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Reminds me |
Tomee450 |
Apr-06-05 10:02 PM |
#110 |
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I thought they were the welfare queens Reagan tried to |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:12 PM |
#120 |
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True, |
Tomee450 |
Apr-07-05 12:45 AM |
#155 |
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Also remember that , part of the time, the motive is harassment |
tubbacheez |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#11 |
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They have the same model of truck? Omigod, that proves it! |
Redstone |
Apr-06-05 07:51 PM |
#3 |
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There are lots of areas of Texas |
Horse with no Name |
Apr-06-05 08:22 PM |
#39 |
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The sense of "invasion" is usually the perceiver's own fault. |
tubbacheez |
Apr-06-05 07:52 PM |
#4 |
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Sorry, but we are being overrun. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 07:53 PM |
#6 |
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Why don't you go ahead and post the numbers? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:54 PM |
#8 |
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here: |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#10 |
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Notice it says "combined" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:00 PM |
#14 |
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okay Santa Claus. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:02 PM |
#17 |
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Sure, here you go: |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:05 PM |
#21 |
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Okay... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:10 PM |
#28 |
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The Southern Law Poverty Center is biased? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:12 PM |
#30 |
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I didn't say they were. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:16 PM |
#32 |
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It's not. No more than it was flooded by the Chinese, the Irish or the |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:18 PM |
#33 |
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or the Greeks. |
jdj |
Apr-06-05 10:50 PM |
#141 |
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Bullshit! |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#56 |
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Man.... |
proud_dem |
Apr-07-05 09:58 AM |
#190 |
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SPLC is a great source. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:43 PM |
#65 |
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Then you post some good links Placebo buddy |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#43 |
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FAIR gets money from the Pioneer Fund, which sponsors eugenics studies |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:31 PM |
#48 |
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Why do some people... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
# |
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No, you were looking SPECIFICALLY to point to MExicans as the threat |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:37 PM |
#57 |
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You posted a newspaper article |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:38 PM |
#58 |
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The third isn't just about racists, |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 08:50 AM |
#183 |
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In terms of making a well-reasoned case |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:09 PM |
#26 |
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His own source has numbers that are less than 1% of the population. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:11 PM |
#29 |
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How is 10.3 million people, 1% of the population? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:19 PM |
#34 |
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Did you read your own artiicle? That is ALL illegals, not just Mexicans |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:20 PM |
#37 |
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Well guess where they're primarily coming from? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:24 PM |
#40 |
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The number if illegals from MEXICO is HALF that. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#44 |
| -
The largest immigrant groups in the Northeast come from: |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#70 |
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There are also |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 09:01 PM |
#81 |
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What the hell does that mean? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:58 PM |
#79 |
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In the Northeast in the 1970s, most of the illegals were from Ireland |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 10:40 PM |
#137 |
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That was also during the peak days of the IRA |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 09:04 AM |
#187 |
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Sure. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:22 PM |
#38 |
| -
Then why are both borders not watched? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:30 PM |
#47 |
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I agree. |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:38 PM |
#59 |
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Then I don't think we disagree. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:41 PM |
#62 |
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I agree |
H2O Man |
Apr-06-05 08:55 PM |
#74 |
| -
Good lord, man! |
dpibel |
Apr-06-05 09:36 PM |
#101 |
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There's a rational discussion to be had here |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:36 AM |
#158 |
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With all due respect |
dpibel |
Apr-07-05 02:50 AM |
#165 |
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The OP says there is no flood |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 02:55 AM |
#166 |
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My family lives and has lived in Harlingen TX for decades |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:03 AM |
#175 |
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I worked with illegals a lot back when it wasn't illegal to |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#115 |
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It is combining the 3 jurisdictions of the DC metropolitian area. |
Virginian |
Apr-07-05 08:46 AM |
#182 |
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5.9 million are Mexican |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:29 PM |
#45 |
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That's still a goddamn lot of people |
theboss |
Apr-06-05 10:00 PM |
#108 |
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A goddam lot of people!? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:29 PM |
#131 |
| -
It's rather odd |
Tomee450 |
Apr-06-05 10:11 PM |
#119 |
| -
Interesting. |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:30 PM |
#133 |
| -
11,000,000? Heck, that's only a little more than the combined population |
Zorra |
Apr-07-05 12:17 AM |
#153 |
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The person per square mile in those states is 1-2. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:43 AM |
#181 |
| -
Actually, I'll post them for you. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:58 PM |
#12 |
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Why did you post your own data... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:01 PM |
#16 |
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You notice illegal immigration becomes a talking point when the economy is |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:04 PM |
# |
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Exactly. It always ALWAYS comes up after a recession. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:06 PM |
#22 |
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I respect your right to believe what you want. |
WillowTree |
Apr-06-05 07:57 PM |
#9 |
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Post the numbers. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 07:59 PM |
#13 |
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Agreed. |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#18 |
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Your own article said gave numbers making them about 1% of the population |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#24 |
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Whatever Placebo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#50 |
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81% of illegal immigrants... |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:41 PM |
#63 |
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Where'd you get that from? Not from the article you cited earlier |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:43 PM |
#64 |
| -
So which article gives false information? This uncited one? Or the other |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:48 PM |
#67 |
| -
So your problem is with Spanish speaking people? |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:05 PM |
#84 |
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They are not distributed equally across the country |
theboss |
Apr-06-05 10:05 PM |
#112 |
| -
Then I want to see a break down of cities |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:52 PM |
#142 |
| -
Maybe these people just really like the ones smuggled in for sex trade! |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 03:50 AM |
#167 |
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Posters have used the Center for Immigration Studies, FAIR, |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:01 PM |
#15 |
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You are WAAAAYYY wrong poster! Border looks like a colony of ants. |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 08:03 PM |
#19 |
| -
Proof? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:08 PM |
#25 |
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A colony of ants! Ha ha! They're uninvited pests...parasites. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:10 PM |
#27 |
| -
I guess I'm being overly sensitive about this issue |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:20 PM |
#36 |
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In 100 years, people will look back at this and compare it to NINA |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:25 PM |
#42 |
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Worries me cause of what'll happen when they find out deportation... |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 06:30 AM |
#173 |
| -
What racism? |
Placebo |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#51 |
| -
You haven't seen the other threads |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#54 |
| -
Late to the party Placebo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:39 PM |
#60 |
| -
I bet he saw the other threads |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#73 |
| -
Personally I'm sick of it |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:01 PM |
#82 |
| -
What racism? |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 10:25 PM |
#128 |
| -
Well, of course he's legal |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-06-05 10:44 PM |
#139 |
| -
Are you trying to tell me something? LOL |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 11:04 PM |
#144 |
| -
Me too |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:33 PM |
#52 |
| -
Why is FAIR involved in state isses? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:40 PM |
#61 |
| -
We have been asking the same question since this came out a year or so ago |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#69 |
| -
numbers are posted above in previous post and these are only estimated |
lonestarnot |
Apr-06-05 10:28 PM |
#130 |
| -
That is funny |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 08:45 PM |
#66 |
| -
Miniscule Men LOL |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:59 PM |
#80 |
| -
Let's see |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:41 AM |
#159 |
| -
My family lives in....TX! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:08 AM |
#176 |
| -
I recommend a book for you |
fishnfla |
Apr-06-05 08:04 PM |
#20 |
| -
INS estimates 7 million illegal aliens in the U.S. in 2000 |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:15 PM |
#31 |
| -
I keep reading this over and over again and yes I see your |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 08:32 PM |
#49 |
| -
You propose an explanation, but offer nothing to back it up |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:53 PM |
#68 |
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Page two of the report from the highly credible source you provided |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 09:42 PM |
#104 |
| -
Well, Yes... |
Milspec |
Apr-06-05 09:21 PM |
#94 |
| -
What would you consider a flood? |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:36 PM |
#102 |
| -
Exactly. |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 08:19 PM |
#35 |
| -
Good point |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 08:36 PM |
#55 |
| -
Most people of Hispanic origin are NOT illegal aliens |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 08:56 PM |
#75 |
| -
100,000 in a country of 290 million is hardly an invasion. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#78 |
| -
Mexico, on the other hand, is quite different from the others. |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:03 PM |
#83 |
| -
Compared to the national population |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 09:07 PM |
#86 |
| -
Well, based upon the conservative estimates of the INS, 3% of those |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:14 PM |
#90 |
| -
And the Census Bureau disagrees. Also, where does it say that that |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:17 PM |
#92 |
| -
I call it conservative because PEW Research says 10.5 million |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:25 PM |
#98 |
| -
No, it says 10.5 million TOTAL, not Mexicans. It's 5.9 Mil. Mexicans |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:42 PM |
#105 |
| -
Right, Pew says 10.5 million total, INS says 7 million total |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:19 AM |
#178 |
| -
3% of the population are illegal aliens |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:23 PM |
#96 |
| -
Your premise is flawed. Most illegals are on overstayed visas, not |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:11 PM |
#88 |
| -
Read the link in post #31. You're wrong. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:12 PM |
#89 |
| -
Ok, where does it say how many come over the border daily? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:15 PM |
#91 |
| -
Do the math |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:22 PM |
#95 |
| -
Ok...but that still doesn't take into account that most are overstays. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:24 PM |
#97 |
| -
HAve you got a link to "most are overstays"? n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:25 PM |
#99 |
| -
Sure. Take the quiz. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:41 PM |
#103 |
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Took the quiz. 40% of illegal aliens enter from the Southern border |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:16 AM |
#177 |
| -
No...350,000 illegals per year and take 40 percent of that. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 08:41 AM |
#180 |
| -
NO NO NO NO NO, that's NET, after those who were overstaying |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 08:59 AM |
#185 |
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No, link 31 links to a site that says there is NO way to tell them apart. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 09:01 AM |
#186 |
| -
Read the entire document. n/t |
Walt Starr |
Apr-07-05 10:18 AM |
#191 |
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Hey, quit bringing facts into the argument! |
ArkDem |
Apr-07-05 09:08 AM |
#188 |
| -
Also, turn to page 12 of that document linked in post #31 |
Walt Starr |
Apr-06-05 09:33 PM |
#100 |
| -
Your article says the new method makes it impossible to distinguish |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 09:19 PM |
#93 |
| -
In Boston, Dominicans and Salvadorans comprise the majority of Latino |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#77 |
| -
One of my good friends at work |
proud2Blib |
Apr-06-05 09:07 PM |
#85 |
| -
evidence? |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#71 |
| -
Uh...yeah. All over this thread. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 08:54 PM |
#72 |
| -
Nice try |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 10:01 PM |
#109 |
| -
Ok, since reading through the posts is so difficult, here are some links |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:07 PM |
#116 |
| -
thanks for the links |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:09 PM |
#145 |
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Like everyone else, you didn't read carefully. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 12:16 AM |
#152 |
| -
Obviously |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 12:07 PM |
#196 |
| -
Again, we read the same thing |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:51 AM |
#170 |
| -
Thank you |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 12:04 PM |
#194 |
| -
And if you need some more evidence, here are some DU threads on the topic: |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 09:09 PM |
#87 |
| -
DU is a wonderful place |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 10:07 PM |
#117 |
| -
Did you even read the threads? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-06-05 10:12 PM |
#121 |
| -
I did read |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:12 PM |
#146 |
| -
It is a mob scene. People posting RW links and arging that |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:13 PM |
#122 |
| -
I've also seen |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:15 PM |
#147 |
| -
No, nobody said that illegals crossing is a good thing. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-07-05 12:18 AM |
#154 |
| -
sorry |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 11:57 AM |
#192 |
| -
No evidence?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:20 PM |
#125 |
| -
Wow that's a lot of exclamation points |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:18 PM |
#149 |
| -
Of course those of us who have been the victims of racial |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:26 PM |
#129 |
| -
A lot of opinion |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-06-05 11:21 PM |
#150 |
| -
EVIDENCE!!! |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 11:34 PM |
#151 |
| -
What is this crap? |
thinkingwoman |
Apr-07-05 11:59 AM |
#193 |
| -
.... |
Cleita |
Apr-07-05 12:07 PM |
#195 |
| -
What a Great Headline n/t |
UTUSN |
Apr-06-05 08:57 PM |
#76 |
| -
There is no flood |
martymar64 |
Apr-06-05 09:59 PM |
#107 |
| -
Bwahahaha! Excellent Post! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Apr-06-05 10:04 PM |
#111 |
| -
As an Anglo |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:22 PM |
#126 |
| -
Exactly |
Tomee450 |
Apr-07-05 12:56 AM |
#157 |
| -
It's cause all they were taught was to remember the Alamo! |
countryjake |
Apr-07-05 04:13 AM |
#168 |
| -
I have posted this before. This is my response. I am upset with |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:06 PM |
#114 |
| -
Mind your own business? |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:09 PM |
#118 |
| -
I don't know. Mind your own business? Sometimes, I wish it were |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:19 PM |
#124 |
| -
Okay, I was raised a Catholic and Sister said to treat others |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:30 PM |
#132 |
| -
And so I remain silent, knowing what wrong is being done. This really |
tsuki |
Apr-06-05 10:38 PM |
#136 |
| -
Why is this your problem? |
Cleita |
Apr-06-05 10:52 PM |
#143 |
| -
the immigrants I know would say to stay out of it. (legal and illegal) |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:39 AM |
#163 |
| -
There needs to be a Mexican labor strike |
donheld |
Apr-06-05 10:16 PM |
#123 |
| -
In my previous life... |
FormerOstrich |
Apr-06-05 10:24 PM |
#127 |
| -
Nice post...... |
tyedyeto |
Apr-06-05 10:35 PM |
#135 |
| -
Great post |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:47 PM |
#140 |
| -
Thank you.. |
FormerOstrich |
Apr-06-05 11:17 PM |
#148 |
| -
Thanks |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:53 AM |
#171 |
| -
Excellent post. I hope everybody in this debate reads it.... |
cire4 |
Apr-07-05 01:50 AM |
#161 |
| -
you are my hero for posting this. |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:44 AM |
#164 |
| -
I say let 'em come |
nguoihue |
Apr-06-05 10:31 PM |
#134 |
| -
Really interesting article |
Maestro |
Apr-06-05 10:42 PM |
#138 |
| -
Even one illegal alien is too many. |
Placebo |
Apr-07-05 12:52 AM |
#156 |
| -
A bit of an insult to legal aliens as well |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-05 01:47 AM |
#160 |
| -
It's not an evil thought |
Maestro |
Apr-07-05 05:45 AM |
#169 |
| -
yeah, pretty interesting |
barb162 |
Apr-07-05 12:28 PM |
#198 |
| -
I agree with you. |
fleabert |
Apr-07-05 02:09 AM |
#162 |
| -
just wondering |
allhislife |
Apr-07-05 06:11 AM |
#172 |
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You need a minimum number of posts to other threads first. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-07-05 07:53 AM |
#174 |
| -
I guess the fences and border patrols are for jack rabbits? |
Snivi Yllom |
Apr-07-05 08:19 AM |
#179 |
| -
Did you read the thread? |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Apr-07-05 08:55 AM |
#184 |
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Parts of it are funny. According to one poster, I'm |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-07-05 09:33 AM |
#189 |
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It's a deluge |
barb162 |
Apr-07-05 12:19 PM |
#197 |
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It's a deluge all right. Of propaganda. Hiding thread. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-07-05 12:31 PM |
#199 |
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Locking by request of author |
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