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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-05 06:32 PM
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75. zogby's questions are also selective in their detail
what about "if a disabled person is not terminally ill, not in a coma, and not being kept alive on life support, and they have no written directive, but left verbal instructions with their spouse not to artifically prolong their life and courts have repeatedly ruled for 15 years that they should not be fed artificially, should or should they not be denied food and water
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  -Zogby: Americans Not in Favor of Starving Terri Schiavo Gannon Man Date  Apr-04-05 03:43 PM   #0 
  - Wonderful. Important matters of ethics being reduced to "polls" n/t  Bluebear   Apr-04-05 03:44 PM   #1 
  - Yeah, Zogby's a real "liberal"  Vash the Stampede   Apr-04-05 03:44 PM   #2 
  - Hey.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:06 PM   #40 
  - The Why Is This Written In A Manner Totally Devised To Help GOP?  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 05:20 PM   #44 
     - I don't see how you are addressing my post.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:26 PM   #50 
        - yes, but Zogby clearly put out a bias poll  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:32 PM   #52 
        - He was looking to illuminate an issue.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:35 PM   #54 
           - Well, i personally am not attacking Zogby, just the poll questions  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:41 PM   #57 
              - See my other post below.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:44 PM   #58 
                 - when did I call him a freeper? i am addressing the poll question  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:52 PM   #61 
        - A Poll Isn't Supposed To Be FORMING Opinion By Asking Slanted  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 05:34 PM   #53 
           - That's fine.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:39 PM   #55 
              - But the method of her death isn't the issue  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:47 PM   #59 
              - That's exactly the issue as Zogby seems to have framed it. n/t  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 05:50 PM   #60 
              - no, the question was "denied food or water." that is framed to produce  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:58 PM   #62 
                 - I see what you are getting at.  tasteblind   Apr-04-05 06:02 PM   #63 
                 - You know, it would be interesting to see what kind of response that...  sonicx   Apr-04-05 06:10 PM   #65 
                 - Good grief! She WAS denied food and water.  Eloriel   Apr-04-05 08:23 PM   #92 
                 - Jinx  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:38 PM   #97 
                 - "Should the feeding tube have been removed or should it have remained?"  sonicx   Apr-04-05 08:45 PM   #100 
                 - How should he have asked the question?  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:36 PM   #96 
              - For many people the method of her death is the issue. n/t  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:35 PM   #95 
                 - I understand, but Docters and many DU's with family members who...  sonicx   Apr-04-05 08:54 PM   #105 
              - yes his question is biased as it says  scarletlib   Apr-04-05 06:37 PM   #78 
                 - She wasn't unconscious -- that would be a coma.  Eloriel   Apr-04-05 08:45 PM   #101 
                    - She was unconscious. In fact, Jeb's questionable doctor admitted it.  sonicx   Apr-04-05 08:48 PM   #103 
  - AND zogby was WRONG  zidzi   Apr-04-05 06:18 PM   #69 
  - I don't get it  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:31 PM   #94 
     - Did you read the questions?  Vash the Stampede   Apr-04-05 10:06 PM   #113 
  - how about c) it's none of your business  ixion   Apr-04-05 03:44 PM   #3 
  - notice  shoelace414   Apr-04-05 03:45 PM   #4 
  - Exactly, This Is A Misleading Poll & Article. Intentionally So.  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 05:21 PM   #46 
  - They should have given her a hot shot of morphine  slackmaster   Apr-04-05 03:45 PM   #5 
  - As it was, they treated her more shabbily and less humanely. . .  Journeyman   Apr-04-05 04:46 PM   #37 
     - That's exactly how I feel about it  slackmaster   Apr-04-05 06:21 PM   #70 
        - I agree, but here's why that's impossible  Eloriel   Apr-04-05 08:42 PM   #98 
  - Well gee whiz.. Let's just resurrect her.. the polls have spoken  SoCalDem   Apr-04-05 03:45 PM   #6 
  - C'mon people. Don't get snowed.  Teaser   Apr-04-05 03:45 PM   #7 
  - A new poll? Fairer questions? hiding thread.  spanone   Apr-04-05 03:47 PM   #8 
  - Will you also be sticking your head in the sand?  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:42 PM   #99 
  - Well, it's the default position IF THERE IS NO PREFERENCE STATED.  Inland   Apr-04-05 03:48 PM   #9 
  - Chats  HockeyMom   Apr-04-05 04:06 PM   #29 
  - Another great poll with blatantly skewed questions.  Guckert   Apr-04-05 03:49 PM   #10 
  - my sentiments exactly -- as a testing professional these type of "loaded"  sundancekid   Apr-04-05 05:31 PM   #51 
  - great. will we be able to see the complaint as filed on some sort  scarletlib   Apr-04-05 06:58 PM   #84 
  - Uh, the courts simply DECLARED what her wishes were. Basically  Eloriel   Apr-04-05 08:59 PM   #106 
     - Experts: Schiavo's Death Would Be Peaceful  sonicx   Apr-04-05 09:07 PM   #108 
     - Funny how MS put her in a HOSPICE.....  drdon326   Apr-05-05 05:52 AM   #116 
  - And the spin begins  sandnsea   Apr-04-05 03:49 PM   #11 
  - "If a person has not expressed their preference...as in Terri's case"?  DemItAllAnyway   Apr-04-05 03:51 PM   #12 
  - Apparently she did express a preference, and a coma is better than PVS.  MissMarple   Apr-04-05 03:51 PM   #13 
  - I didn't think she should have been starved to death.  shockra   Apr-04-05 03:54 PM   #14 
  - She wasn't starved.  Teaser   Apr-04-05 03:56 PM   #17 
  - Its actually a very painless death.  UCLA Dem   Apr-04-05 03:56 PM   #19 
  - I'm sure they all want to be the first to pay for all this life support!  UCLA Dem   Apr-04-05 03:54 PM   #15 
  - No fooling...I'm with the 79% that said she should have been refeed.  drdon326   Apr-04-05 03:54 PM   #16 
  - Well, not exactly  Modem Butterfly   Apr-04-05 03:57 PM   #20 
  - Do you have links to those other polls?  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:47 PM   #102 
     - Here  sonicx   Apr-04-05 09:02 PM   #107 
  - actually, most americans still agree with the tube removal.  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:26 PM   #49 
  - At this point i'm in favour of of Starving Zogby  LibertyorDeath   Apr-04-05 03:56 PM   #18 
  - LOL  Gannon Man Date   Apr-04-05 03:58 PM   #21 
  - This is from a clearly biased source.  chimpy the poopthrower   Apr-04-05 03:58 PM   #22 
  - Thanks for pointing that out  Gannon Man Date   Apr-04-05 04:01 PM   #27 
  - There was a Time poll cited elsewhere on the Zogby site.  chimpy the poopthrower   Apr-04-05 04:08 PM   #30 
  - Look at the wording. Who paid for the poll?  alcuno   Apr-04-05 04:03 PM   #28 
  - BS, hiding thread  Zynx   Apr-04-05 03:58 PM   #23 
  - Majorities  Behind the Aegis   Apr-04-05 03:58 PM   #24 
  - Americans in favor of her death as long as they can pick the method.  chimpsrsmarter   Apr-04-05 03:59 PM   #25 
  - How About Those That  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-04-05 05:13 PM   #41 
  - "Disabled"??? Not THAT shit again!!  BlueEyedSon   Apr-04-05 04:00 PM   #26 
  - Headline is wrong. She was not starved to death.  NYC   Apr-04-05 04:17 PM   #31 
  - She Was Dehydrated To Death...  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-04-05 05:16 PM   #42 
     - You oppose euthanasia?  nonconformist   Apr-04-05 06:16 PM   #67 
     - Are We Talking About Dogs Or Humans?  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-04-05 06:24 PM   #71 
        - Does you believe abortion should be illegal?  sonicx   Apr-04-05 06:25 PM   #72 
        - It Should Be Safe, Legal, And Rare...  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-04-05 06:28 PM   #74 
           - well, then basically, you are still pro-choice.  sonicx   Apr-04-05 06:43 PM   #79 
              - I Think There Are Things We Can Do To Reduce Abortion..  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-04-05 06:47 PM   #81 
              - I want to echo what sonic said.  Bouncy Ball   Apr-04-05 07:41 PM   #89 
        - Fair enough. nt  nonconformist   Apr-04-05 06:45 PM   #80 
     - Yeah, starvation would have taken longer n/t  Eloriel   Apr-04-05 09:07 PM   #109 
  - I didn't get this Zogby poll.  napi21   Apr-04-05 04:21 PM   #32 
  - I didn't get this one either  Animy44   Apr-04-05 04:42 PM   #36 
  - nor did I  notsodumbhillbilly   Apr-04-05 09:38 PM   #111 
  - Food and Water makes it sounds like she's sitting up and eating  Danmel   Apr-04-05 04:29 PM   #33 
  - My cousin just mentioned yesterday that she was treated worse  candy331   Apr-04-05 04:32 PM   #34 
  - Tell your cousin  Patchuli   Apr-04-05 08:27 PM   #93 
  - Meanwhile - poll after poll showed  Jesus Saves   Apr-04-05 04:33 PM   #35 
  - It isn't really a good question, and is not the same as Shiavo  daleo   Apr-04-05 05:00 PM   #38 
  - The form of the question seems confusing (on purpose?)  lulu in NC   Apr-04-05 05:04 PM   #39 
  - Who Paid For The Poll, Zogby? Fairer Questions? Terri DID Express  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 05:18 PM   #43 
  - Not everyone believes her husband  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:53 PM   #104 
     - Yeah......he seems like such a great guy.  drdon326   Apr-05-05 05:46 AM   #115 
  - Even the online polls over at FR used fairer language  Azathoth   Apr-04-05 05:20 PM   #45 
  - "denied food and water" this poll is incorrectly worded  sonicx   Apr-04-05 05:21 PM   #47 
  - 1. She did express her wishes; 2. The feed tube IS life support  mondo joe   Apr-04-05 05:25 PM   #48 
  - Yep, thank you!  Swamp Rat   Apr-04-05 06:54 PM   #83 
  - She was not fucking disabled!  Pastiche423   Apr-04-05 05:41 PM   #56 
  - exactly! thank you. nt  lasttrip   Apr-04-05 06:18 PM   #68 
  - "not in coma" huh? that makes it sound as if a person is conscious!  alphafemale   Apr-04-05 06:04 PM   #64 
  - "a new Zogby poll with fairer questions" ????? HAH!  BrklynLiberal   Apr-04-05 06:11 PM   #66 
  - i still feel it was a personal issue, and the government shouldn't have  Maine-ah   Apr-04-05 06:26 PM   #73 
  - zogby's questions are also selective in their detail  leftofthedial   Apr-04-05 06:32 PM   #75 
  - total BS poll  onenote   Apr-04-05 06:33 PM   #76 
  - She WAS starved, but just the same ....  GarySeven   Apr-04-05 06:35 PM   #77 
  - It was dehydration, not starvation, but just the same...  democracyindanger   Apr-04-05 06:50 PM   #82 
     - Well, to be totally accurate ...  GarySeven   Apr-04-05 10:20 PM   #114 
  - Zogby's next poll  OilemFirchen   Apr-04-05 07:33 PM   #85 
  - "AS IN TERRI'S CASE"?!?!??! WTF?  DireStrike   Apr-04-05 07:36 PM   #86 
  - Ok, I finally get it after reading through the thread  DireStrike   Apr-04-05 07:41 PM   #88 
  - "....and not being kept alive on life support..."  Bouncy Ball   Apr-04-05 07:36 PM   #87 
  - Let them walk all over this one. That poll is very similar to the CBS  bush_is_wacko   Apr-04-05 07:58 PM   #90 
  - The ONLY reason for these results is because the MSM slanted this story  jab105   Apr-04-05 08:22 PM   #91 
  - But she had expressed her wishes....  beyurslf   Apr-04-05 09:31 PM   #110 
     - Most people when asked say they do not want extraordinary measures  demgrrrll   Apr-04-05 10:02 PM   #112 
 

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