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Mon Apr-04-05 03:56 PM
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| 19. Its actually a very painless death. |
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Pain killers are given and the body just slowly shuts down. Its actually a very peaceful way to go.
I know this because my mom is getting her master's degree in gerontology and this becomes an issue quite often with elderly folks.
You should read up on it. It sounds worse than it actually is.
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| -Zogby: Americans Not in Favor of Starving Terri Schiavo |
Gannon Man Date |
Apr-04-05 03:43 PM |
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Wonderful. Important matters of ethics being reduced to "polls" n/t |
Bluebear |
Apr-04-05 03:44 PM |
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Yeah, Zogby's a real "liberal" |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-04-05 03:44 PM |
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Hey. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:06 PM |
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The Why Is This Written In A Manner Totally Devised To Help GOP? |
cryingshame |
Apr-04-05 05:20 PM |
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I don't see how you are addressing my post. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:26 PM |
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yes, but Zogby clearly put out a bias poll |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:32 PM |
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He was looking to illuminate an issue. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:35 PM |
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Well, i personally am not attacking Zogby, just the poll questions |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:41 PM |
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See my other post below. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:44 PM |
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when did I call him a freeper? i am addressing the poll question |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:52 PM |
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A Poll Isn't Supposed To Be FORMING Opinion By Asking Slanted |
cryingshame |
Apr-04-05 05:34 PM |
#53 |
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That's fine. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:39 PM |
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But the method of her death isn't the issue |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:47 PM |
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That's exactly the issue as Zogby seems to have framed it. n/t |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 05:50 PM |
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no, the question was "denied food or water." that is framed to produce |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:58 PM |
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I see what you are getting at. |
tasteblind |
Apr-04-05 06:02 PM |
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You know, it would be interesting to see what kind of response that... |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 06:10 PM |
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Good grief! She WAS denied food and water. |
Eloriel |
Apr-04-05 08:23 PM |
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Jinx |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:38 PM |
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"Should the feeding tube have been removed or should it have remained?" |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 08:45 PM |
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How should he have asked the question? |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:36 PM |
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For many people the method of her death is the issue. n/t |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:35 PM |
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I understand, but Docters and many DU's with family members who... |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 08:54 PM |
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yes his question is biased as it says |
scarletlib |
Apr-04-05 06:37 PM |
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She wasn't unconscious -- that would be a coma. |
Eloriel |
Apr-04-05 08:45 PM |
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She was unconscious. In fact, Jeb's questionable doctor admitted it. |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 08:48 PM |
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AND zogby was WRONG |
zidzi |
Apr-04-05 06:18 PM |
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I don't get it |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:31 PM |
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Did you read the questions? |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-04-05 10:06 PM |
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how about c) it's none of your business |
ixion |
Apr-04-05 03:44 PM |
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notice |
shoelace414 |
Apr-04-05 03:45 PM |
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Exactly, This Is A Misleading Poll & Article. Intentionally So. |
cryingshame |
Apr-04-05 05:21 PM |
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They should have given her a hot shot of morphine |
slackmaster |
Apr-04-05 03:45 PM |
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As it was, they treated her more shabbily and less humanely. . . |
Journeyman |
Apr-04-05 04:46 PM |
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That's exactly how I feel about it |
slackmaster |
Apr-04-05 06:21 PM |
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I agree, but here's why that's impossible |
Eloriel |
Apr-04-05 08:42 PM |
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Well gee whiz.. Let's just resurrect her.. the polls have spoken |
SoCalDem |
Apr-04-05 03:45 PM |
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C'mon people. Don't get snowed. |
Teaser |
Apr-04-05 03:45 PM |
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A new poll? Fairer questions? hiding thread. |
spanone |
Apr-04-05 03:47 PM |
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Will you also be sticking your head in the sand? |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:42 PM |
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Well, it's the default position IF THERE IS NO PREFERENCE STATED. |
Inland |
Apr-04-05 03:48 PM |
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Chats |
HockeyMom |
Apr-04-05 04:06 PM |
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Another great poll with blatantly skewed questions. |
Guckert |
Apr-04-05 03:49 PM |
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my sentiments exactly -- as a testing professional these type of "loaded" |
sundancekid |
Apr-04-05 05:31 PM |
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great. will we be able to see the complaint as filed on some sort |
scarletlib |
Apr-04-05 06:58 PM |
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Uh, the courts simply DECLARED what her wishes were. Basically |
Eloriel |
Apr-04-05 08:59 PM |
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Experts: Schiavo's Death Would Be Peaceful |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 09:07 PM |
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Funny how MS put her in a HOSPICE..... |
drdon326 |
Apr-05-05 05:52 AM |
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And the spin begins |
sandnsea |
Apr-04-05 03:49 PM |
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"If a person has not expressed their preference...as in Terri's case"? |
DemItAllAnyway |
Apr-04-05 03:51 PM |
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Apparently she did express a preference, and a coma is better than PVS. |
MissMarple |
Apr-04-05 03:51 PM |
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I didn't think she should have been starved to death. |
shockra |
Apr-04-05 03:54 PM |
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She wasn't starved. |
Teaser |
Apr-04-05 03:56 PM |
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Its actually a very painless death. |
UCLA Dem |
Apr-04-05 03:56 PM |
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I'm sure they all want to be the first to pay for all this life support! |
UCLA Dem |
Apr-04-05 03:54 PM |
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No fooling...I'm with the 79% that said she should have been refeed. |
drdon326 |
Apr-04-05 03:54 PM |
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Well, not exactly |
Modem Butterfly |
Apr-04-05 03:57 PM |
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Do you have links to those other polls? |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:47 PM |
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Here |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 09:02 PM |
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actually, most americans still agree with the tube removal. |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:26 PM |
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At this point i'm in favour of of Starving Zogby |
LibertyorDeath |
Apr-04-05 03:56 PM |
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LOL |
Gannon Man Date |
Apr-04-05 03:58 PM |
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This is from a clearly biased source. |
chimpy the poopthrower |
Apr-04-05 03:58 PM |
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Thanks for pointing that out |
Gannon Man Date |
Apr-04-05 04:01 PM |
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There was a Time poll cited elsewhere on the Zogby site. |
chimpy the poopthrower |
Apr-04-05 04:08 PM |
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Look at the wording. Who paid for the poll? |
alcuno |
Apr-04-05 04:03 PM |
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BS, hiding thread |
Zynx |
Apr-04-05 03:58 PM |
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Majorities |
Behind the Aegis |
Apr-04-05 03:58 PM |
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Americans in favor of her death as long as they can pick the method. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-04-05 03:59 PM |
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How About Those That |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-04-05 05:13 PM |
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"Disabled"??? Not THAT shit again!! |
BlueEyedSon |
Apr-04-05 04:00 PM |
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Headline is wrong. She was not starved to death. |
NYC |
Apr-04-05 04:17 PM |
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She Was Dehydrated To Death... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-04-05 05:16 PM |
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You oppose euthanasia? |
nonconformist |
Apr-04-05 06:16 PM |
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Are We Talking About Dogs Or Humans? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-04-05 06:24 PM |
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Does you believe abortion should be illegal? |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 06:25 PM |
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It Should Be Safe, Legal, And Rare... |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-04-05 06:28 PM |
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well, then basically, you are still pro-choice. |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 06:43 PM |
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I Think There Are Things We Can Do To Reduce Abortion.. |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-04-05 06:47 PM |
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I want to echo what sonic said. |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-04-05 07:41 PM |
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Fair enough. nt |
nonconformist |
Apr-04-05 06:45 PM |
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Yeah, starvation would have taken longer n/t |
Eloriel |
Apr-04-05 09:07 PM |
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I didn't get this Zogby poll. |
napi21 |
Apr-04-05 04:21 PM |
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I didn't get this one either |
Animy44 |
Apr-04-05 04:42 PM |
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nor did I |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Apr-04-05 09:38 PM |
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Food and Water makes it sounds like she's sitting up and eating |
Danmel |
Apr-04-05 04:29 PM |
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My cousin just mentioned yesterday that she was treated worse |
candy331 |
Apr-04-05 04:32 PM |
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Tell your cousin |
Patchuli |
Apr-04-05 08:27 PM |
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Meanwhile - poll after poll showed |
Jesus Saves |
Apr-04-05 04:33 PM |
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It isn't really a good question, and is not the same as Shiavo |
daleo |
Apr-04-05 05:00 PM |
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The form of the question seems confusing (on purpose?) |
lulu in NC |
Apr-04-05 05:04 PM |
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Who Paid For The Poll, Zogby? Fairer Questions? Terri DID Express |
cryingshame |
Apr-04-05 05:18 PM |
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Not everyone believes her husband |
MollyStark |
Apr-04-05 08:53 PM |
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Yeah......he seems like such a great guy. |
drdon326 |
Apr-05-05 05:46 AM |
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Even the online polls over at FR used fairer language |
Azathoth |
Apr-04-05 05:20 PM |
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"denied food and water" this poll is incorrectly worded |
sonicx |
Apr-04-05 05:21 PM |
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1. She did express her wishes; 2. The feed tube IS life support |
mondo joe |
Apr-04-05 05:25 PM |
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Yep, thank you! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-04-05 06:54 PM |
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She was not fucking disabled! |
Pastiche423 |
Apr-04-05 05:41 PM |
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exactly! thank you. nt |
lasttrip |
Apr-04-05 06:18 PM |
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"not in coma" huh? that makes it sound as if a person is conscious! |
alphafemale |
Apr-04-05 06:04 PM |
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"a new Zogby poll with fairer questions" ????? HAH! |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-04-05 06:11 PM |
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i still feel it was a personal issue, and the government shouldn't have |
Maine-ah |
Apr-04-05 06:26 PM |
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zogby's questions are also selective in their detail |
leftofthedial |
Apr-04-05 06:32 PM |
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total BS poll |
onenote |
Apr-04-05 06:33 PM |
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She WAS starved, but just the same .... |
GarySeven |
Apr-04-05 06:35 PM |
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It was dehydration, not starvation, but just the same... |
democracyindanger |
Apr-04-05 06:50 PM |
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Well, to be totally accurate ... |
GarySeven |
Apr-04-05 10:20 PM |
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Zogby's next poll |
OilemFirchen |
Apr-04-05 07:33 PM |
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"AS IN TERRI'S CASE"?!?!??! WTF? |
DireStrike |
Apr-04-05 07:36 PM |
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Ok, I finally get it after reading through the thread |
DireStrike |
Apr-04-05 07:41 PM |
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"....and not being kept alive on life support..." |
Bouncy Ball |
Apr-04-05 07:36 PM |
#87 |
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Let them walk all over this one. That poll is very similar to the CBS |
bush_is_wacko |
Apr-04-05 07:58 PM |
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The ONLY reason for these results is because the MSM slanted this story |
jab105 |
Apr-04-05 08:22 PM |
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But she had expressed her wishes.... |
beyurslf |
Apr-04-05 09:31 PM |
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Most people when asked say they do not want extraordinary measures |
demgrrrll |
Apr-04-05 10:02 PM |
#112 |
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