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Sun Apr-03-05 01:47 PM
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| 19. Sure, it can. Mainline Baptists have Separation of Church and State |
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as part of their central doctrine and history. It was Baptists Jefferson was writing to when he outlined his concept of the wall between government and religion.
Given the absolute nature of your original premise, this single example should be enough to refute it.
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| -Can Religion coexist with the Bill of Rights? |
The Whiskey Priest |
Apr-03-05 01:35 PM |
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I don't think religion can coexist |
leftofthedial |
Apr-03-05 01:36 PM |
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If and only if... |
BeatleBoot |
Apr-03-05 01:37 PM |
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cant happen and wont happen as long as religious |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:40 PM |
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??? |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 01:49 PM |
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If they want to keep citing God in every speech |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:53 PM |
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they |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 01:56 PM |
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sad, but a few bad apples ruined the whole bunch. nt |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:57 PM |
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and because stalin wasnt a nice guy |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 02:01 PM |
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athiests are fine. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:04 PM |
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You are way out numbered |
MollyStark |
Apr-03-05 09:37 PM |
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Which personal beliefs should be used to ban |
jwirr |
Apr-03-05 02:16 PM |
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precisely my point |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 02:18 PM |
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they are the majority, and infringing on the rights of the |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:50 PM |
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Who is THEY? Many of us staunch Democrats |
jwirr |
Apr-03-05 10:06 PM |
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your religion is. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:13 AM |
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Obviously you do not know |
jwirr |
Apr-04-05 11:18 AM |
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Please explain further. |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 01:50 PM |
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here a link. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:54 PM |
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huh, you're RIGHT |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 01:58 PM |
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You damn right!!!! |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:00 PM |
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wow |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 02:01 PM |
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me too. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:03 PM |
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I know about that. You haven't even mentioned |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 02:01 PM |
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They have to be separate or it won't work. |
BeatleBoot |
Apr-03-05 02:02 PM |
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Like I posted earlier. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:07 PM |
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well, if that is the way you feel about it |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 02:14 PM |
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I dont like any of them. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:20 PM |
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I am right there with you fighting against that sort of thing. |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 02:31 PM |
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I applaud your open understanding that we are facing a |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:48 PM |
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A better strategy, in my opinion |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 03:37 PM |
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The problem with that is our Dem leaders aren't |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 06:16 PM |
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How many of those millions of Americans who mobilized were religious? |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 06:28 PM |
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actually, pretty much everyone is pointing the finger at |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 08:02 PM |
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I have been both, atheist and religious |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 08:22 PM |
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I would like to hope so, but I'm not much of an optimist. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 09:11 PM |
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You've already lost |
MollyStark |
Apr-03-05 09:47 PM |
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oh well... |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:12 AM |
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Only if we reassert we're a nation of LAWS |
Warpy |
Apr-03-05 02:24 PM |
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So then... whats this? |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 09:15 AM |
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Not every religion demands proselytization or has as its central |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-03-05 01:38 PM |
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thats only one of many problems with religion and its |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:40 PM |
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it`s impact on social programs? |
madrchsod |
Apr-03-05 01:43 PM |
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True. I got distracted by that assumption being made in the OP. |
BrklynLiberal |
Apr-03-05 01:45 PM |
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I used to think so. During a time when people could be |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:50 PM |
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I don't think any of us will |
jwirr |
Apr-03-05 02:36 PM |
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I like your optimism... but I do not share it. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:51 PM |
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No. eom |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 01:39 PM |
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why not? |
madrchsod |
Apr-03-05 01:40 PM |
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hasn't existed so far.. n/t |
Dez |
Apr-03-05 01:42 PM |
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Good point. |
beam me up scottie |
Apr-03-05 01:44 PM |
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Your definition of religion |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 01:43 PM |
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Please enlighten |
The Whiskey Priest |
Apr-03-05 01:45 PM |
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Not my job. |
H2O Man |
Apr-03-05 02:01 PM |
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yes |
madrchsod |
Apr-03-05 01:47 PM |
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Exactly what I said. |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 08:42 PM |
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The GOP has a bill going set up to have God overrule the courts |
Robbien |
Apr-03-05 01:44 PM |
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? |
adwon |
Apr-03-05 09:53 PM |
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In theory, yes |
lwfern |
Apr-03-05 01:44 PM |
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They've done ok for over 200 years. A few bumps in the road, |
johnaries |
Apr-03-05 01:44 PM |
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Of course. This does not even merit discussion. n/t |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 01:44 PM |
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Another true believer..... |
The Whiskey Priest |
Apr-03-05 01:48 PM |
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Why can't religion and the Bill of Rights coexist? |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 08:37 PM |
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look around you. its already happening |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:15 AM |
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Sarcasm will get you nowhere unless you can state your position clearly. |
samhill226 |
Apr-03-05 08:48 PM |
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Denial.... people need to wake up and soon. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:18 AM |
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My argument is this: |
The Whiskey Priest |
Apr-04-05 09:55 PM |
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That's your first accurate statement. |
H2O Man |
Apr-04-05 07:22 AM |
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ohhh OK. thanks for clearing that up. |
FarceOfNature |
Apr-03-05 01:55 PM |
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Discussing this matter is a waste of thinking. It was a badly thought |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 08:38 PM |
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go away. your attemp to stifle the debate of a very critical |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:19 AM |
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maybe you should go sign up in FR then. |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:01 PM |
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This is a pathetic attempt at a debate. |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 08:40 PM |
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says YOU. Grow up. the REST of us see a problem. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:21 AM |
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yes |
mmonk |
Apr-03-05 01:45 PM |
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Sure, it can. Mainline Baptists have Separation of Church and State |
Heaven and Earth |
Apr-03-05 01:47 PM |
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Of course it can |
Jack Rabbit |
Apr-03-05 01:48 PM |
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of course it can |
realisticphish |
Apr-03-05 01:48 PM |
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The problem is with the fundamentalists who want a theocracy |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-03-05 01:50 PM |
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the hard part is that there is no legal or constitutional way |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:55 PM |
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Well, for one thing, enforce the existing laws |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Apr-03-05 08:30 PM |
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we don't have power to enforce. Look at DeLay. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:24 AM |
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Here's The First 10 words of the First Amendment |
BeatleBoot |
Apr-03-05 01:59 PM |
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If man can peacefully coexist with the fish............. |
ClintonTyree |
Apr-03-05 02:00 PM |
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Lol! |
BeatleBoot |
Apr-03-05 02:10 PM |
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Church and State must co-exist. They are the ones changing the |
higher class |
Apr-03-05 02:07 PM |
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Here here!!! |
Discord |
Apr-03-05 02:09 PM |
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Considering the fact... |
WillowTree |
Apr-03-05 08:38 PM |
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That was exactly my thought and I got blasted for it. |
Zynx |
Apr-03-05 08:41 PM |
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I agree. |
WillowTree |
Apr-03-05 08:53 PM |
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Thats good. and no one should. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:28 AM |
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It WAS acceptable. I no longer is. Religion is not behaving |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:27 AM |
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yeah, well 200 years ago, it wasn't a problem. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:25 AM |
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The Bill of Rights really have no bearing on my life. |
ithinkmyliverhurts |
Apr-03-05 08:42 PM |
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So you would just simply sit by and watch as they turn this |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:31 AM |
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What do you mean? |
samhill226 |
Apr-03-05 08:43 PM |
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history is just that. History. |
Discord |
Apr-04-05 07:35 AM |
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Considering that the B.O.R. was born of religion |
Fescue4u |
Apr-03-05 09:27 PM |
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Over 200 years of american history say yes... n/t |
MollyStark |
Apr-03-05 09:35 PM |
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During that 200 years there was never a time |
The Whiskey Priest |
Apr-03-05 10:08 PM |
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It has for 200 years |
Yupster |
Apr-03-05 11:13 PM |
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Of course. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-04-05 07:17 AM |
#88 |
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